FrankS Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 G'day Guys, Can one of you please tell me the function of the Sperry Wagon and tell me why it often runs with two of the tank wagons off the Weedkiller Train As always, any help much appreciated, and the names will be changed to protect the innocent. Cheers FS, in a warming-up Tasmania 1 Quote
0 Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Hi Frank, The Sperry wagon is an ultrasonic testing machine which scans the rails to monitor the integrity of the steel. The tank wagons are only in the consist to provide extra braking power, as the Sperry is apparently quite heavy and the loco brake on 071s is 'soft'. It's really just a case of attaching whatever wagons are available at the time. The Sperry train has previously used the new spoil wagons for the same purpose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/6754449143/ Edited August 22, 2012 by Garfield Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 [video=youtube_share;LweAA7LaoE8]http://youtu.be/LweAA7LaoE8 Not sure what was thrown at poor Fred Dean Jnr. toward the end, it wasn't roses. Quote
0 Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Not sure what was thrown at poor Fred Dean Jnr. toward the end, it wasn't roses. Sure wasn't roses... it was the staff. The signal cabin must be beside where he was standing. Quote
0 snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Sure wasn't roses... it was the staff. The signal cabin must be beside where he was standing. The gate in the bottom left is right beside the cabin http://snail.smugmug.com/Trains/2700-Railcar/23961092_2dnw6D#!i=1944531731&k=DQRMR2s&lb=1&s=A Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I know! A dose of the "thick" swept over me. It's only a few miles from where I'm from. Used to go to the garden centre beyond. Quote
0 Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 The gate in the bottom left is right beside the cabin http://snail.smugmug.com/Trains/2700-Railcar/23961092_2dnw6D#!i=1944531731&k=DQRMR2s&lb=1&s=A Thanks for that Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Since we're on topic of Sperry unit, can anyone confirm that it's identical both sides? Would make a nice little scratchbuild project... Quote
0 snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Since we're on topic of Sperry unit, can anyone confirm that it's identical both sides? Would make a nice little scratchbuild project... They are not the same, one side has one door and some grills the other side has two doors no grills. Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Cheers Snapper, found photos to back that up. Ta=D Quote
0 Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Cheers Snapper, found photos to back that up. Ta=D Do you have a link to the images, Richie? I'd be interested to see them Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) yea sure, gimme a min to find them. Courtesy of Finbarr O'Neill on Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/finnyus/7757678056/in/photostream/lightbox/ Fred Dean http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/7761886306/in/set-72157626133150257http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/7761885678/in/set-72157626133150257/ There is a great side profile [almost] shot that CSalem took, but can't for the life of me find the link. Its 076 at limerick junction with sperry unit on a 42' flat and spoil containers behind. I'll trawl again later to find it. Edit - Found it http://transportsceneireland.smugmug.com/RailSceneIreland/RSI-Detail-Differences/RSI-Detail-Differences-Wagons/22024794_zkgMt3#!i=1757409930&k=M4RcKWx Edited August 22, 2012 by Glenderg Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Shorty version - http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/5747221032/lightbox/ Quote
0 Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Thanks Richie! Now all that's needed is for one of our resident manufacturers to produce transfers for the Sperry wagon... Quote
0 RedRich Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Well done lads some good research work there. It's saved me some time searching . Rich, Quote
0 snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Shorty version - http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/5747221032/lightbox/ Is the short version still around or did it go back? Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I saw a photo of an even shorter version, on it's own, in either Dundalk or Drogheda, about 2004. It looked like a yellow coffin, and neither man nor beast would fit into it . Aha I found it! I apologise about copyright etc. but it came from fotopic, and I neglected to snapshot the owners text at the bottom. I'll happily re-apply the owners name to the image, or remove it. No offence intended. Quote
0 Mayner Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I saw a photo of an even shorter version, on it's own, in either Dundalk or Drogheda, about 2004. It looked like a yellow coffin, and neither man nor beast would fit into it . Aha I found it! I apologise about copyright etc. but it came from fotopic, and I neglected to snapshot the owners text at the bottom. I'll happily re-apply the owners name to the image, or remove it. No offence intended. [ATTACH=CONFIG]2339[/ATTACH] Sperry's are famous in North America for using old Gas Electric Doodlebug railcars as test cars. The little 4 wheeler looks suspiciously close to an American Scale Test Car, I am not sure if there is anything close in rtr or kit form. Quote
0 FrankS Posted August 23, 2012 Author Posted August 23, 2012 Thanx, again guys ~ you are a fantastic source of information to the tyro Irish Modeller. VERY much appreciated. BTW - If the last photo IS of a car based on a scale test car, Walthers in the US did a HO model a few years ago. Don't know If it's still current or not. Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 This is the current corporate blurb on the above. I have a feeling Irish Rail got it on loan as part of a pre-tender submission, but instead of taking a brochure item, they chose to go with a more Irish solution. {Note totally photoshopped dude in the back of the wagon] "IR: We like what you lads are at there in Merica, with them laser yokes. Sperry: It's Ultrasonic sir IR: Grand, ya, well thing is we have a spare 40 foot container in the yard. We were kinda hopin' you might tack weld your gear to it, and we'll look after the yellow paint side of things? Sperry: If sir requires a bespoke item, as opposed to an off the shelf item, we would be delighted to price, and charge accordingly. IR: Sounds a bell. I'll tell the boys to clear her out." Possibly not what occurred, but it's nice to dream! Quote
0 ttc0169 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 The Sperry train is in Mayo today, I managed to get it at a few locations in the County... here are a few photos of it in Claremorris, All photos were taken with prior permission given and a valid PTS cert. 079 has propelled the Sperry train into the siding at Claremorris to allow 226 on the IWT liner to overtake and an ICR to pass also One side of the Sperry wagon. And the other side-the monitoring/measuring equipment is located in front of the bogie of the wagon. Quote
0 RedRich Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Ya beauty! =D Many thanks. That will make an interesting modelling exercise Richie. I've no doubt with you're eye for detail it will result in a fine model. Rich, Quote
0 RedRich Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Thanks for posting those photos Noel. A C-Rail 40ft container kit would be a good starting point for anyone else interested in having a go at modelling one. Rich, Quote
0 Shinkansen Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 "IR: We like what you lads are at there in Merica, with them laser yokes. Sperry: It's Ultrasonic sir IR: Grand, ya, well thing is we have a spare 40 foot container in the yard. We were kinda hopin' you might tack weld your gear to it, and we'll look after the yellow paint side of things? Sperry: If sir requires a bespoke item, as opposed to an off the shelf item, we would be delighted to price, and charge accordingly. IR: Sounds a bell. I'll tell the boys to clear her out." Ha Ha... Sounds about right.... They dont do off the shelf around here! That said it does provide a bit of interest for modelling, but makes finding rtr models a nightmare! Quote
0 Glenderg Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 That will make an interesting modelling exercise Richie. I've no doubt with you're eye for detail it will result in a fine model. Rich, Already working on a card version to see if it passes muster, then i'll go plastic! Quote
0 heirflick Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 great info on the sperry lads...and great pics to boot! Quote
0 snapper Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 I just noticed some lovely side, end and detail shots of the Sperry train over on the Wanderers smugmug. Quote
0 wexfordloco10 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Hi As a newcommer to this site may I be allowed to share a couple of photos with you Sperry unit at Wexford taken with permission and from the station platform Model is by John Walker Wexford MRCLUB Quote
0 Weshty Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) Very well done, and great background photos. In the event that any of ye want a full set of transfers to cover this diagram, I'll do them...€9 Edited September 23, 2012 by Weshty Quote
0 enniscorthyman Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Great photos there lads and the model looks great. Quote
0 Broithe Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Wexfordloco10 has some good Sperry shots on his Flickr - Quote
0 Weshty Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Lads, Sperry transfers are now available €9.50 Decals include Logo, 40' container numbering, yellow flash, helmet needed, white flash, no entry warning signs, all works stencils, tank logos, bogie flat numbering etc. Quote
0 Robert Shrives Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just to bump this one . Thanks for the pics very useful for adding the zillion transfers.. A simple question when did the container enter traffic ? Thanks Robert Quote
0 brianmcs Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Does it use a 42 ft flat wagon ? Quote
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FrankS
G'day Guys,
Can one of you please tell me the function of the Sperry Wagon and tell me why it often runs with two of the tank wagons off the Weedkiller Train
As always, any help much appreciated, and the names will be changed to protect the innocent.
Cheers FS,
in a warming-up Tasmania
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