fishplate7 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) I passed by the Ramble Inn at Halfway on the N71 in Cork this afternoon. I noticed that the various bits of railway stock (the brake van, bulleid wagon, etc.), which were visible from the roadside, have all disappeared from view. The site looks like it's being cleared out! See some of my photos below from some years back. Does anyone know what has happened to them? Thanks Edited June 18, 2020 by fishplate7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERAILED Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Perhaps they been moved to Waterford for the Waterford/Rosslare preservation scheme - that old GSWR six-wheeler would be a major asset. More seriously, I heard that the Halfway stuff still exists on a private site in West Cork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Another eyesore removed from public view, now if they could take that dilapidated bus as well before it returns to nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 That poor ol bus used to be in great nick, Amazing how these are left to go to pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Man Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Could be going to Whitehead or Downpatrick. I was there last year and there was only the Brake van. Pity it's going Always made my day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Sadly, they're of no use to Whitehead or Downpatrick. The carriage - if there's anything left of it, is way, way past restoration; a total rebuild would be necessary. It was borderline restorable the last time I saw it which was the best part of thirty years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Man Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) The brake van was in bad nic a well. Quite a lot of rust. Edited June 19, 2020 by Midland Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Update straight from the source for those wondering the CIE green bus that was once located here has now been permanently moved. I don’t know Where but hopefully a good home. The Ruston was moved along with the bulleid beet wagon to rathpeacon, and then onto where it is today. the 6 wheel coach has been moved to a secret location within cork, I understand it’s in quite good shape with a very good owner. (And as a coach that worked in West Cork, I’d love to see it again). the brakevan had moved to a location halfway up the country. While I can’t disclose anything I took this photo out the top window of the bus as a child, I never thaught the bus was going anywhere! it even had my favourite livery. The last time I saw it there was earlier this year… the track started just in front of this Ruston. I’m told it was mechanically very good. cosmetically not so good. The end of the track, what was only supposed to be a temporary set up anyway….to think there was a heritage railway at my doorstep. And I was just a few years too late to take advantage of it 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Incorrect post. Admins may delete Edited October 28, 2022 by Westcorkrailway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I always wanted to get at the destination scroll in that bus- would love to see what it was like (in case anyone has old bus scrolls lying around!!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I’m not sure anything of that type would have survived into 2022 I have a Circa 2022 photo of it somewhere, I just can’t remember where… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I think the loco is the one which went to Maam Cross; I could be wrong, but if so, it’s about as MGWR as the starship “enterprise’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: I think the loco is the one which went to Maam Cross; I could be wrong, but if so, it’s about as MGWR as the starship “enterprise’ It went from halfway-Rathpeacon-Inchicore works and some day to Maam cross when it’s been fixed! I was also inticed to learn of get another failed West Cork railway heritage project. Which this stock would have been involved in had it gone ahead (considering there is a good chance all that rolling stock ran on the Ex-CBSC, and the Ruston dealt with west cork wagons almost everyday in mallow, makes sense) unfortunately it never did….I may go into further detail on s desperate thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERAILED Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) That carriage (234a) was a former WL&WR vehicle which was recovered from Tipperary station to Mallow in 1983/4 and was never worthy of restoration for anything other than a mess hut. Edited October 30, 2022 by DERAILED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Junction Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Passed it the other day, tis all gone now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The loco is in Inchicore en route to Maam X, as is the Bulleid open. The latter has been refloored and painted by now. The 6 wheeler is on a private site not far away from the Halfway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 29/10/2022 at 12:41 AM, jhb171achill said: I think the loco is the one which went to Maam Cross; I could be wrong, but if so, it’s about as MGWR as the starship “enterprise’ I don't think the intention was ever a faithful recreation of a pre-War Maam X, just as Downpatrick is not a BCDR only reserve. We should be thankful SOMETHING positive is happening there, given the 'problematic' history of preservation here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) The Ramble inn never owned any of that stuff, just holding onto it. And the insurance cost was not worth keeping it on its present site. As for the 6 wheeler, I happen to have gotten one of the only photos of it being moved from halfway to its present site, including one of it passing my house which is deffinetly a wierd one for me living out the middle of nowhere! He wants to keep it private as I hear there has possibly been some looting going on…very much fair enough the brakevan….well at least I think this is the same brakevan has been moved to different location, currently attached to a cement bubble…. But in all honestly I cannot verify is this is the same brakevan no idea where the bus went, something I could ask Alan barry next time I’m out there. Edited January 4, 2023 by Westcorkrailway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Hard to imagine what they’d could possibly have been on any of that stuff worth looting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Hard to imagine what they’d could possibly have been on any of that stuff worth looting! Sure a fella looted a santa statue there yesterday in dublin. He's either a few days late or a year early... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The bus must have been red rotten by now. Hopefully it went to a better home if there was any chance of restoration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, minister_for_hardship said: The bus must have been red rotten by now. Hopefully it went to a better home if there was any chance of restoration. I’d say so, yes. Sometimes it’s almost better to put them out of their misery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 13 hours ago, minister_for_hardship said: I don't think the intention was ever a faithful recreation of a pre-War Maam X, just as Downpatrick is not a BCDR only reserve. We should be thankful SOMETHING positive is happening there, given the 'problematic' history of preservation here. If it were to try to be MGWR, they’d have to build a whole new steam locomotive, or try to disguise either 184 or 186 as a J18; although, the thought of a J26 replica is sounding better by the second… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Branchline121 said: If it were to try to be MGWR, they’d have to build a whole new steam locomotive, or try to disguise either 184 or 186 as a J18; although, the thought of a J26 replica is sounding better by the second… Indeed; the “accuracy” ship has LONG sailed for Irish preservation. There just isn’t the stuff left, and there’s no way the RPSI would send any steam locomotives to such a remote location, I would think. And there’s no Barry scrapyard here; THAT ship sailed too, over sixty years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie10646 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: Indeed; the “accuracy” ship has LONG sailed for Irish preservation. There just isn’t the stuff left, and there’s no way the RPSI would send any steam locomotives to such a remote location, I would think. And there’s no Barry scrapyard here; THAT ship sailed too, over sixty years ago! Well, the RPSI has no obvious plans for running 184 / 186 again so why not a loan, given suitable assurances as to the loco's well-being? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Both are static exhibits at Whitehead - 184 is being cosmetically done up for display as we speak….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Branchline121 said: If it were to try to be MGWR, they’d have to build a whole new steam locomotive, or try to disguise either 184 or 186 as a J18; although, the thought of a J26 replica is sounding better by the second… There simply isn't the same level of interest here vs the uk to even consider a new build just to run up and down a few miles of line. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 hours ago, leslie10646 said: Well, the RPSI has no obvious plans for running 184 / 186 again so why not a loan, given suitable assurances as to the loco's well-being? The running costs for a J15 would likely be prohibitive for a preserved line, too. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Garfield said: The running costs for a J15 would likely be prohibitive for a preserved line, too. We had a good discussion about this on one of the zooms hosted by @Niles. Possibly once was going to become a short term fix….. I for one hope 186 is put on the mainline again Back on topic, some 6 year old photos of the halfway lot. I think the loco was repainted before it was moved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, minister_for_hardship said: There simply isn't the same level of interest here vs the uk to even consider a new build just to run up and down a few miles of line. Correct 2 hours ago, Garfield said: The running costs for a J15 would likely be prohibitive for a preserved line, too. Correct. In all reality, and for a number of reasons, for 5’3” in Ireland as a steam operation, Downpatrick and the RPSI are likely to remain the only shows in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERAILED Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 5/1/2023 at 2:27 PM, jhb171achill said: Correct Correct. In all reality, and for a number of reasons, for 5’3” in Ireland as a steam operation, Downpatrick and the RPSI are likely to remain the only shows in town. You're discounting the Jim Deegan factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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