Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Next Monday evening on RTE1 at 20:30 21st Century Railways Edited November 6, 2012 by Anthony Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=29247 New 3 part programme starting Monday 12th November at 20.30 -21.00 21st Century Railways. I hope it its something decent and not hyped up journalistic rubbish. Quote
Blu Bianco Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=29247 New 3 part programme starting Monday 12th November at 20.30 -21.00 21st Century Railways. I hope it its something decent and not hyped up journalistic rubbish. Thanks for the notice! That link didn't show for me correctly. Just incase, this may tell us a bit more. http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/25976123_tv_21st_Century_Railways Edited November 6, 2012 by Blu Bianco Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Posted November 6, 2012 The first episode looks at the creation of railways in Ireland, exploring how they over took the canals as the primary means of mass transportation Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Thanks for the notice! That link didn't show for me correctly. Just incase, this may tell us a bit more. http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/25976123_tv_21st_Century_Railways Cheers Blu and welcome to the home of mad modellers. Quote
Blu Bianco Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks for the Youtube link gm171 kk. Its difficult to tell just going on a trailer but I hope theres going to be enough coverage in there of the 121's, 141's/181's and 071's and rolling stock of that era. Occasionally these programmes have a tendency to just focus on what came first, steam, to how it is now, trams and DMU's. The bit in there showing the old disused station looks interesting too and I hope it shows more of these stations/lines like Foynes and Kingscourt, other than just a quick snippet about the Burma Road or the Listowel Monorail (no offence meant to those lines, they are much treasured, I just mean its because they are some of the most well known and therefore have been covered elsewhere before. They are way too easy candidates for a lazy programme maker to concentrate on for a quick snippet!). However, it is good to see another Irish train based programme on RTE at long last, TG4 having far outshone them in the interim! 'Off the Beaten Track' seems like such a long time ago now but I hope its repeated sometime, come on RTE!. It would be particularly poignant given the demise of the Rosslare-Waterford route. It was running back when Olivia O'Leary did her show on it. Quote
RedRich Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I thought 80% of the footage had been used in Ironing the land. I was expecting Dick Warner to pop up in top hat and cape. Next week might be a bit more interesting with some newer footage. Rich, Quote
Garfield Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Well, that was a waste of a half-hour... inoffensive fluff. Quote
BosKonay Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Complete fluff. No idea who the target audience is Quote
RedRich Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Well, that was a waste of a half-hour... inoffensive fluff. I agree Pat. Do RTE have any decent footage in their archives. Although Ironing the land had some poorly researched information at least it had a begining, a present, and future look at the railways. Rich, Quote
josefstadt Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 The images were worth watching but the commentary was more than somewhat banal. Quote
RedRich Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Complete fluff. No idea who the target audience is It ain't us Stephen. Rich, Quote
Warbonnet Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I have no idea what that was about, have a feeling it was factually iffy to say the least. Quote
Garfield Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Complete fluff. No idea who the target audience is Agreed. It was borderline condescending in places... at one point what the narrator was saying basically boiled down to 'commuters use the Dart to go to work'. Surely 99.9% of the population know what the Dart is and what it's for? I'm all for programmes like this being produced in a way that the general punter can understand, but there's no excuse for that. Also... the 'talking heads' they brought in looked uncomfortable in front of camera, especially Michael Barry. It was hard to keep track of what he was talking about at times. I agree Pat. Do RTE have any decent footage in their archives. Although Ironing the land had some poorly researched information at least it had a begining, a present, and future look at the railways. Rich, The footage is in there... somewhere. Edited November 12, 2012 by Garfield Quote
Blu Bianco Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 What a load of unmitigated toss! No history, no real substance. It seemed like an exercise in PR (albeit a very poor one). It was like someone wanted to show what a great railway system we have now.........'Decaying rolling stock' allied to pictures of a class 181 and MK3 coaches, a bit off the mark there! My 'favourite' line went something along the lines of the (banal) commentator stating the traffic congestion had commuters 'seeking refuge in railcars' (the picture then proceeded to show them squeezed in like sardines, thats some comfort). These railcars are fantastic, aren't they? As far as the stock photos, and as you have previously mentioned on here, fair enough on the railways side, but when you're going to be using phrases like 'modern day' Dublin, then don't be showing Dublin Bus in their older green liveries, and also the (short lived) cream, orange and navy blue city link livery! I mean, how old is that? Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Thank god Mario Rosenstock was on rte 2 shortly afterwards. Quote
heirflick Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 i did expect to see a lot of footage not seen before. still, it kept me entertained. hope next weeks is more exciting Quote
waffles Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 move along lads theirs nothing to see here. It was very poor, shame prime time TV before the news no wonder they only made three episodes they must have run out of ideas after five minutes it was obvious that they had to pack program out with "fluff". Can you see it getting any better ? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I agree Pat. Do RTE have any decent footage in their archives. Although Ironing the land had some poorly researched information at least it had a begining, a present, and future look at the railways. Rich, And ITL had a truely dire theme tune. I don't know how the late Ronny Drew kept a straight face singing that. I'll catch the new show on RTE Player, but I'll not expect miracles. Quote
Sulzer201 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Very poor and disappointing and probably typical of the media's general haphazard and poorly executed coverage of the rail industry. Quote
Broithe Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 It is a general truism that any television programme about something that you have a bit of knowledge of yourself will be disappointingly superficial at best.. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 It is a general truism that any television programme about something that you have a bit of knowledge of yourself will be disappointingly superficial at best.. I do agree most of the people on this site have a good knowledge of Irish Railways but what they fail to forget is that the program isn't aimed at them. That is why there are Irish railway DVDs on the market for you guys. The program was aimed at joe public who hasn't got a clue about trains and probably found the show quite interesting. Personally myself I enjoyed it something I'd rather be watching than Coronation Street. Quote
Warbonnet Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I do agree most of the people on this site have a good knowledge of Irish Railways but what they fail to forget is that the program isn't aimed at them. That is why there are Irish railway DVDs on the market for you guys. The program was aimed at joe public who hasn't got a clue about trains and probably found the show quite interesting. Personally myself I enjoyed it something I'd rather be watching than Coronation Street. I agree with you in a way Anto that this isn't aimed at us, but they should at least get the story straight. Some of the stuff they said was downright misleading! Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Personally myself I enjoyed it something I'd rather be watching than Coronation Street. Which suggests he does watch Coronation Street Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 Which suggests he does watch Coronation Street Quote
Broithe Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Gave up after Roy and Hayley's wedding - http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/we-love-telly/2010/08/coronation-street-chuffin-eck.html ..? Quote
enniscorthyman Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 The program was a bit disappointing alright. Anyone remember a series in the late 1970s which I think was called trains-of all things.I remember a 001 On the cover of the RTE guide-or did I dream all this?. Quote
heirflick Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 [quote=enniscorthyman;I remember a 001 On the cover of the RTE guide-or did I dream all this?. jesus eamonn - you were dreaming of a 001 while the rest of us were dreaming about Thelma Mansfield announcing the Angelus! - what are you like Quote
Glenderg Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Ahhh, so that's what she did before "Live at Three (Dead at Four)" Quote
heirflick Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 thelma... she was as beautiful as 'slieve gullion' glistening in the sunlight! Quote
Garfield Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) thelma... she was as beautiful as 'slieve gullion' glistening in the sunlight! Both must be around the same age as well... Edited November 13, 2012 by Garfield Quote
Train model Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 jesus eamonn - you were dreaming of a 001 while the rest of us were dreaming about Thelma Mansfield announcing the Angelus! - what are you like[ATTACH=CONFIG]3712[/ATTACH] Ah Thelma Mansfield that's the nick name I called my daughter until she was 5 live at 3 she was awake at 3 every morning 4 hours sleep is all she needed ,the first night she slept we taught she was dead a big fright to get happy days my Quote
heirflick Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Both must be around the same age as well... Quote
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