Noel Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 The empire strikes back - But is it too little too late? AS delivering quality detailing on a much higher level for significantly less cost than Bachmann? Just spotted this. The timing looks more than suspicious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 It’s quite suspicious indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Most likely Bachmann Europe attempting to re-gain market share lost to Accurascale, and retail commissions, the Deltic and Class 37 were important models in Bachmann UK 'Modern Outline" locomotive range. It will be interesting to see if Bachmann/Kader will adjust their Class 37 pricing to compete with Accurascale on price. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I'm guessing there are a lot more mouths to feed at Bachmann. It will be difficult to compete on price without structural changes to the company. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Mayner said: Most likely Bachmann Europe attempting to re-gain market share lost to Accurascale, and retail commissions, the Deltic and Class 37 were important models in Bachmann UK 'Modern Outline" locomotive range. It will be interesting to see if Bachmann/Kader will adjust their Class 37 pricing to compete with Accurascale on price. Considering our Class 37 was launched 2 years ago, and they launched theirs last week, with the new RRP, most unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmail Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Well you can never have too many class 37's, there were 309 real ones.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I’m just looking forward to the Bachmann CIE fertiliser wagons 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 It's a shame really as I would prefer Bachmann doing (appropriate such as LMS Jinty for NCC Y not 158 for 2700) resprays like they did in the 2000s (with proper rolling stock for them this time of course) or a modern rerun of the 141s/071s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Branchline121 said: It's a shame really as I would prefer Bachmann doing (appropriate such as LMS Jinty for NCC Y not 158 for 2700) resprays like they did in the 2000s (with proper rolling stock for them this time of course) or a modern rerun of the 141s/071s. The former was a comission by Paddy Muorhy the second a comission by the Irish model shops and the 141/071 Murphy models items. So while bachmann may have made some of it, they no longer make comissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Bachmann still do commissions but it is extremely unlikely that someone / shop etc will come forward with the necessary finance to do any Irish prototypes. The most recent one I think was the Caledonian 812 0-6-0 for Rails of Sheffield and they have also been commissioned by TMC to produce an NER G5 0-4-4T. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Can't speak for all modellers, only for myself, and a handful who I imagine are in the same boat... Why would you want Bachmann or anybody dabbling in the Irish market right now? The IRM lads have said time and again that their UK side is what keeps their Irish side afloat. Wouldn't be worth their while to continue without the UK side. If another manufacturer, Bachmann for example, were to cut a slice of that already-anorexic pie, we may end up saying goodbye to Irish RTR models altogether. Is anybody really short-sighted enough to want one or two Bachmann Irish releases, more than likely nowhere near as accurate as IRM stuff, and then have nothing at all after that because everybody throws the towel in? Bachmann Class 37 timing is very suspicious, I do concur. If it was an announcement, not a physical in-stock release, it would be grand, but they've obviously been working at it a while if they have the models on the shelves already. The only "bad" thing for Irish modellers at the moment is the affect that IRM are having on their bank balances! We've never had it so good. Can't be said enough times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Doubt that any other manufacturer is going to dabble in the Irish market, anyhow, the guys at IRM have a lot of goodies to anounce this year so calm down and be patient. The feeling I gather is the new Bachmann 37 seems to have received a luke warm reception - my money was on them producing an updated Class 70. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I think we’d all like that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shrives Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) On 13/8/2022 at 4:24 PM, Galteemore said: I think we’d all like that If only form any source ...well IRM perhaps... Robert Edited August 16, 2022 by Robert Shrives added a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 13/8/2022 at 2:14 PM, Irishswissernie said: Bachmann still do commissions but it is extremely unlikely that someone / shop etc will come forward with the necessary finance to do any Irish prototypes. The most recent one I think was the Caledonian 812 0-6-0 for Rails of Sheffield and they have also been commissioned by TMC to produce an NER G5 0-4-4T. Perhaps to clarify, they no longer do comissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, BosKonay said: Perhaps to clarify, they no longer do comissions. Good! Hands off the Irish market! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 The Irish market isn't remotely viable on it's own, but it is growing, and we hope measures like advertising in the UK outline magazines, and showing Irish stock on accurascale.com will help that. Right now tho, accurascale is the only reason IRM exists. We do have many exciting things to share, some not too surprising, some a bit shocking, several powered, all before year end tho, so watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, BosKonay said: The Irish market isn't remotely viable on it's own, but it is growing, and we hope measures like advertising in the UK outline magazines, and showing Irish stock on accurascale.com will help that. Right now tho, accurascale is the only reason IRM exists. We do have many exciting things to share, some not too surprising, some a bit shocking, several powered, all before year end tho, so watch this space OK, will contact bank manager and cardiologist mañana... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, BosKonay said: . We do have many exciting things to share, some not too surprising, some a bit shocking, several powered, all before year end tho, so watch this space Oh Christ lt was “only 1 powered item this year” a couple of months ago my financial plans are ruined and I shall now re-morgage d’house 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: OK, will contact bank manager and cardiologist mañana... I’m contacting Santa and the Tooth Fairy. Well, I DID get an extraction the other day. Think I must be owed a good bit for it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Oh Christ lt was “only 1 powered item this year” a couple of months ago my financial plans are ruined and I shall now re-morgage d’house In fairness, back in March, IRM said two powered announcements this year, then in the summer they said that global logistics were causing delays - but we were well warned! On 4/3/2022 at 12:46 PM, BosKonay said: If it helps with planning we have a small announcement in the next few weeks,, then something in April, something powered in late April/ Early May, something else in June, something else in July, and August and September and October (also powered) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 11 hours ago, BosKonay said: We do have many exciting things to share, some not too surprising, some a bit shocking, several powered, all before year end tho, so watch this space That sounds like a lot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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