DJ Dangerous Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Following on from THIS quote on RMW, is anybody else excited for the first O gauge Accurascale locomotive? [QUOTE=] Hi everyone, Excellent to see that there is interest in us doing more O gauge. So much so, we want to let you into a little secret... We can confirm that we have designed our first O gauge locomotive and it is going to tooling in the coming weeks. It is not a locomotive currently in our OO range, so it is O gauge from the ground up. Feel free to wildy speculate on what it might be! We will reveal it when tooling is complete and a pre-production sample is in hand later this year. Cheers! Fran [/QUOTE] 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Generally for 0 gauge. Something smaller is more idea and affordable? of course it could be an 0 gauge N/K class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Generally for 0 gauge. Something smaller is more idea and affordable? That makes sense ... still hoping for a LMS Garratt though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Generally for 0 gauge. Something smaller is more idea and affordable? of course it could be an 0 gauge N/K class Obviously I'm hoping for an O gauge IRM A Class after the first one or two loco launches prove so popular and sell out on pre-order... Without going too nutty, something to haul these HUO's would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 It may even have an irish connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, BosKonay said: It may even have an irish connection Where's the Troll emoji in that list??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 An EMD 645 connection, I wonder ….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Following on from THIS quote on RMW, is anybody else excited for the first O gauge Accurascale locomotive? [QUOTE=] Hi everyone, Excellent to see that there is interest in us doing more O gauge. So much so, we want to let you into a little secret... We can confirm that we have designed our first O gauge locomotive and it is going to tooling in the coming weeks. It is not a locomotive currently in our OO range, so it is O gauge from the ground up. Feel free to wildy speculate on what it might be! We will reveal it when tooling is complete and a pre-production sample is in hand later this year. Cheers! Fran [/QUOTE] God, that eejit talks some nonsense! 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Ruston? so not an O2....Sad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: God, that eejit talks some nonsense! I do, I'm sorry. I put it down to bad parenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 IMHO, No viable market here for O gauge Irish stock. But I'd nearly shave my head for an O gauge 141 to IRM's standards. But reckon over 3 years you'd sell max 200-300 locos if even that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Noel said: IMHO, No viable market here for O gauge Irish stock. But I'd nearly shave my head for an O gauge 141 to IRM's standards. But reckon over 3 years you'd sell max 200-300 locos if even that. I'm obviously overly optimistic, as always, and that I will concede, but at the same time, maybe your figures are a bit low, and fail to take into account the global market for Irish and / or O Gauge? Remember this? On 30/4/2020 at 6:47 PM, Noel said: Was just thinking the well is only so deep in the Irish market, with the A class coming after 121 and the Irish economy suffering CV-19 effect will the market demand be there for much more? After the kegs is project 42 not finished? Will yellow PW stuff sell well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: I'm obviously overly optimistic, as always, and that I will concede, but at the same time, maybe your figures are a bit low, and fail to take into account the global market for Irish and / or O Gauge? Remember this? TBH he is kinda right At the moment I am packed with Irish Stock which is a good problem to have compared to years ago and purchased a lot of stuff enthusiastically each time a new model popped out. I found out the fiddle yard I had designed for a UK based Layout for 3 coach trains is too small now for Irish Block Trains, IR/IE Era. Also flogging off surplus stuff I will never run or need as well. constructed in the constraints of a 15 x 10ft space I will be a lot more focused on what I will be buying in future and stick to an Era where as before I was picking with blind enthusiasm. Have loads of coaches too, Again too many for a medium layout, Gonna pass on any Mk.3 as they are just too long. Only the PP yokes. The pic is a Mk.3 8 set on a 12ft long scenic section so shows how long these trains are. (not mine BTW) Hope to get rid of the Portabcabin and go to a 30ft steeltech shed with insulation (10ftx10ft office / 20ftx10ft model room) so work really has halted on this as the exhibition layout is impracticable to move as a one man band. (Not sure why the text has turned red) the pi Edited May 17, 2023 by Georgeconna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Georgeconna said: TBH he is kinda right At the moment I am packed with Irish Stock which is a good problem to have compared to years ago and purchased a lot of stuff enthusiastically each time a new model popped out. I can't agree there. I don't think it's time for IRM to throw the towel in, just yet. If China do something stupider than usual and get sanctioned, that may have an impact on output, but I do not see demand drying up without a mitigating factor like prices being tripled. Back to O gauge, yes, definitely fanciful, definitely not likely to be on the IRM radar at thr moment, but... If somebody had told me ten years ago that the abundance of high quality RTR models we now have was likely, never mind definite, I'd have laughed at them. And, I'm probably not the only one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) As a 7mm modeller, I think Irish modelling as an individual (as opposed to a club) in this scale actually works more easily with older prototypes, which tended to have more scope for shorter and more varied trains. Modern Irish trains take up a lot more space than the old Loughrea formations, for instance…. A 7mm 071 and 6 Mk3s, for example, will take up 3.5m just standing still. Just imagine how much room you’d need for a layout that will do that justice. Edited May 17, 2023 by Galteemore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Galteemore said: As a 7mm modeller, I think Irish modelling as an individual (as opposed to a club) in this scale actually works more easily with older prototypes, which tended to have more scope for shorter and more varied trains. Modern Irish trains take up a lot more space than the old Loughrea formations, for instance…. A 7mm 071 and 6 Mk3s, for example, will take up 3.5m just standing still. Just imagine how much room you’d need for a layout that will do that justice. So you'd suggest a C Class, a 121, a 141 or a 181 for the first IRM O gauge loco? I could definitely get behind that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) I’d actually suggest an MGW E/ GSR J26….the UK equivalent (Dapol Terrier) has kickstarted many a small O gauge layout over here. Edited May 17, 2023 by Galteemore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Galteemore said: I’d actually suggest an MGW E/ GSR J26….the UK equivalent (Dapol Terrier) has kickstarted many a small O gauge layout over here. One of these? And look at this quote... Hmmmmmmmm... On 8/11/2017 at 10:53 PM, Garfield said: Nice one, Eoin! @Warbonnet is slowly working his way through one of those kits, too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Ideal loco, which could be seen from Sligo to Fenit and Timoleague over seventy years - lots of scope ….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) As it's an Accurascale loco, then it stands to reason its a UK prototype. The lads have hinted that it has an Irish connection, so then I reckon it's either one that was/is in use over here as well as in Britain (or very similar to one). As others have said smaller seems to be better when it comes to O, so I think there's a good chance it could be one of the industrial locos from a UK manufacturer. Which ever it is, it's likely the prototype is still in existence somewhere. So if the prototype ran in both Britain and Ireland and if we're feeling very lucky, then perhaps it could be a CSÉ Ruston, or maybe one of the shunters from Guinness, LP&HC, or Shell? (I don't know enough about them to know how generic those ones' designs are though) Edited May 17, 2023 by Flying Snail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 IRM: "Always finding new ways to make you poor" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Flying Snail said: As it's an Accurascale loco, then it stands to reason its a UK prototype. The lads have hinted that it has an Irish connection, so then I reckon it's either one that was/is in use over here as well as in Britain (or very similar to one). As others have said smaller seems to be better when it comes to O, so I think there's a good chance it could be one of the industrial locos from a UK manufacturer. Which ever it is, it's likely the prototype is still in existence somewhere. So if the prototype ran in both Britain and Ireland and if we're feeling very lucky, then perhaps it could be a CSÉ Ruston, or maybe one of the shunters from Guinness, LP&HC, or Shell? (I don't know enough about them to know how generic those ones' designs are though) Yes, I was just suggesting what Irish loco they might build! Looking at their existing wagon production in 7mm suggests that it’s a fairly modern piece of kit, the Irish connection possibly being a common GM power plant ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Interesting - I hadn't thought of the power plant being the connection Agree that the J26 would be a nice choice for an Irish loco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Quite a bit out of my depth here but I believe the CIE Class D /J1A diesel shunting locos Nos 1000 to 1004 later D301 to D305 were quite similar to the UK Class 10 and later Class 08 so would that be a possibility? Edited May 17, 2023 by Irishswissernie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Irishswissernie said: Quite a bit out of my depth here but I believe the CIE Class D /J1A diesel shunting locos Nos 1000 to 1004 later D301 to D305 were quite similar to the UK Class 10 and later Class 08 so would that be a possibility? Personally I’d prefer a proper loco that could haul coaches or rake of two axle wagons. Hence the 141 mention as that could haul resprayed br mk2 O gauge stock or resprayed collets as fake laminates, or any resprayed GWR wagons. Shunters don’t quite fit the bill for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Noel said: Personally I’d prefer a proper loco that could haul coaches or rake of two axle wagons. Hence the 141 mention as that could haul resprayed br mk2 O gauge stock or resprayed collets as fake laminates, or any resprayed GWR wagons. Shunters don’t quite fit the bill for that. Although I disagree with your use of the term "proper loco", I agree with your sentiment and I'd rather a mainline loco than a yard-only loco. Maybe if we both shave our heads, or shave each others' heads, IRM will run a mainline BO-BO for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayec Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Wow, there's a project that got lost in the attic! must do some more work on it....... I also acquired more bits to build another one or two! Eoin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) On 17/5/2023 at 8:47 AM, Galteemore said: As a 7mm modeller, I think Irish modelling as an individual (as opposed to a club) in this scale actually works more easily with older prototypes, which tended to have more scope for shorter and more varied trains. Modern Irish trains take up a lot more space than the old Loughrea formations, for instance…. A 7mm 071 and 6 Mk3s, for example, will take up 3.5m just standing still. Just imagine how much room you’d need for a layout that will do that justice. Take it to the garden, granted not the best climate where you guys are, (we have our moments too) little interest in industrial though Edited May 18, 2023 by DiveController 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I suspect the Irish connection is on the more tenuous side rather than something that ran in Ireland. Otherwise we'd probably be hearing about another joint IRM/AS project like the mk 2's. Could be an Oliver Bulleid connection perhaps? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 6 hours ago, murphaph said: I suspect the Irish connection is on the more tenuous side rather than something that ran in Ireland. Otherwise we'd probably be hearing about another joint IRM/AS project like the mk 2's. Could be an Oliver Bulleid connection perhaps? I suspect the Irish connection is even more vague, like, "I'm @BosKonay and I love trolling you all. Trolls are green so there's an Irish connection" ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 17/5/2023 at 6:23 PM, Irishswissernie said: Quite a bit out of my depth here but I believe the CIE Class D /J1A diesel shunting locos Nos 1000 to 1004 later D301 to D305 were quite similar to the UK Class 10 and later Class 08 so would that be a possibility? How close were the CIE D Class and the BR 08 Class? Aside from the overall shape, almost everything on the body looks different to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 Will we see an O Gauge EP at the October show? Something to haul those O Gauge RPSI Mk2's maybe? And don't lie to me, there's no way that they're OO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Will we see an O Gauge EP at the October show? Something to haul those O Gauge RPSI Mk2's maybe? And don't lie to me, there's no way that they're OO! Lol, perhaps We should also have fully working EP's of several other items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, BosKonay said: Lol, perhaps We should also have fully working EP's of several other items. Damn you and your perhapsing and teasing! I wonder how much October flights cost... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 Ta-daaaaaaaa! https://www.accurascale.com/es-eu/collections/7mm-locomotives The Ruston 88DS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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