Warbonnet Posted December 4 Posted December 4 We love a good collaboration here at IRM, and we are delighted to team up with our Danish friends at Heljan to bring you a run of the former BR Oil tankers bought by CIE in the late 1960s and modified for Irish operations. Synonymous on the "Sligo Oil" trains, these B Class tank wagons were modified with additional bracing between the tank barrel and chassis which we have tooled up to make these authentic for the Irish variants of these distinct wagons. Operating in block trains until 2003, and as part of the Sligo liner for a couple more years, the Sligo oil train operated from North Wall to Sligo at a steady pace of just 35 miles per hour. To replicate these workings, we have commissioned Heljan to produce 3 packs of four wagons for the Esso train in block formation. Using photos and other historical data, we have developed a block train formation of these characterful wagons, so you can replicate these iconic workings that were very much an everyday scene of Irish railfreight for many, many years. Coming in 3 packs of 4 wagons, there are 12 differently numbered tankers available in this strictly limited, one off run. Each pack is priced at €169.99 per 4 wagons with 10% off when you buy two or more. As these are a commission from Heljan, they are only available direct via the IRM and Accurascale website. The tank wagons are now manufactured and will be in stock with us in Q1 2025. Pre-order yours today via the link below! Pre-order Your Esso Tank Wagons Here! View the full article 12 5 Quote
Edo Posted December 4 Posted December 4 hmm Would they have been seen in the South?.....on other lines other than Sligo? Quote
flange lubricator Posted December 4 Posted December 4 5 minutes ago, Edo said: hmm Would they have been seen in the South?.....on other lines other than Sligo? They were also used on the Claremorris and Galway (oranmore) lines . 1 1 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Excellent looking wagons, and the 10% bundle discount is brilliant! I guess the (oil) well for Irish models is still pretty deep... 3 Quote
flange lubricator Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) Brilliant news lovely wagons I have some of the Heljan ones and they are super detail . One minor point I think they are A class wagons with the longer barrel the B class were the shorter barrel running numbers 995 , 996, 997, 998 & 999 ?? I know the classification refers to the type of product carried and latterly the were all B class Edited December 4 by flange lubricator 1 2 Quote
meathdane Posted December 4 Posted December 4 6 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Excellent looking wagons, and the 10% bundle discount is brilliant! I guess the (oil) well for Irish models is still pretty deep... That pun was a bit crude 2 3 Quote
Fiacra Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Apologies if this is already stated somewhere, but are these wagons readily convertible to 21 mm as per all other IRM rolling stock. This doesn't look to be the case from the photos, and I'm assuming Heljan only made cosmetic changes to a model they already produce? 1 Quote
BosKonay Posted December 4 Posted December 4 25 minutes ago, Fiacra said: Apologies if this is already stated somewhere, but are these wagons readily convertible to 21 mm as per all other IRM rolling stock. This doesn't look to be the case from the photos, and I'm assuming Heljan only made cosmetic changes to a model they already produce? The bracing between tank and chassis has been tooled up for this specific model, but no changes were made to the (British) chassis and wheel spacing. (and buffer heads) Quote
fishplate7 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 For a shot of the Oil Train in action go to 3.10 on this video I took in Enfield back in the day when there was real action on the rails with semaphores, staff/handring exchanges, etc! 6 1 1 Quote
murphaph Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Lovely looking wagons. I doubt many people expected a team up with Heljan! Facinating stuff. As the chassis will need to be cut to regauge, does anyone have a picture of the underside of a BR one? It would help me assess how easy or difficult that task is likely to be. Quote
DB JOE Posted December 4 Posted December 4 I wonder will this collaboration with Heljan mean we might get the black liveried versions too.... Here's hoping some day. I could consign all my dapol kit built ones to a siding ..... Quote
Warbonnet Posted December 4 Author Posted December 4 21 minutes ago, murphaph said: Lovely looking wagons. I doubt many people expected a team up with Heljan! Facinating stuff. As the chassis will need to be cut to regauge, does anyone have a picture of the underside of a BR one? It would help me assess how easy or difficult that task is likely to be. Hi Phil, Underside of the model: 5 minutes ago, DB JOE said: I wonder will this collaboration with Heljan mean we might get the black liveried versions too.... Here's hoping some day. I could consign all my dapol kit built ones to a siding ..... Well Joe, if these sell well we can look to other runs in the future. The power is in the hands of the Irish model railway buying public! Cheers! Fran 5 1 Quote
DB JOE Posted December 4 Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Hi Phil, Underside of the model: Well Joe, if these sell well we can look to other runs in the future. The power is in the hands of the Irish model railway buying public! Cheers! Fran Well I've done my bit and pre ordered one of each pack!!! 1 Quote
murphaph Posted December 4 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, flange lubricator said: They were also used on the Claremorris and Galway (oranmore) lines . Did they pass through Kildare on the way or were they routed via Mullingar? Quote
ttc0169 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 19 minutes ago, murphaph said: Did they pass through Kildare on the way or were they routed via Mullingar? Northwall-Kildare-Portarlington-Athlone-Claremorris in later years up to 2003-could take the same route to Oranmore or via Mullingar-Athlone. Delighted-will definitely get a few packs-just need the two axle barrier wagon to compliment the tanks now 2 2 Quote
MOGUL Posted December 4 Posted December 4 11 minutes ago, ttc0169 said: Northwall-Kildare-Portarlington-Athlone-Claremorris in later years up to 2003-could take the same route to Oranmore or via Mullingar-Athlone. Delighted-will definitely get a few packs-just need the two axle barrier wagon to compliment the tanks now 2003 was the end of the block train to Sligo, the wagons hung on till mid-2005 on liner trains to Claremorris(via Portarlington obviously) and Sligo.. @Maynerhas some nice shots of them tacked onto the back of a Claremorris liner on this thread Oranmore ended earlier, although I have yet to find an end date, possibly early 90s? Rails though the West has some nice pics of the Oranmore flow, including a picture of the empties returning to Dublin via the WRC, Mullingar and Athlone, but I don’t have a page number handy as it’s packed away with everything else at the moment.. Quote
murphaph Posted December 4 Posted December 4 So ca. 1995 we would have seen these wagons pass through Kildare on the way to Galway in block trains? 1 Quote
Wexford70 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 How many of these would have been in a typical rake? Has anyone any more photos of these in the modelled livery? Quote
BosKonay Posted December 4 Posted December 4 16 minutes ago, Wexford70 said: How many of these would have been in a typical rake? Has anyone any more photos of these in the modelled livery? I make 18 of them in the video above Quote
Wexford70 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 6 minutes ago, BosKonay said: I make 18 of them in the video above Might need a few more numbered variants!!!!!!! 1 Quote
ttc0169 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 29 minutes ago, Wexford70 said: How many of these would have been in a typical rake? Has anyone any more photos of these in the modelled livery? 18+ 2 barrier wagons -I’ll check my guards journal from that period to confirm numbers. 1 Quote
Wexford70 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, ttc0169 said: 18+ 2 barrier wagons -I’ll check my guards journal from that period to confirm numbers. I assume there were used in mixed freight also? Quote
Davenport Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Anyone know what type of oil was carried ? Fuel oil, Lub oil ,HFO ?? Quote
Mol_PMB Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) There are some photos in the IRRS archive, but will not be visible to the wider audience. For example: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509330394 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509330399 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509328959 The hazard markings carried are 3YE 1270, which would indicate petrol. That would explain the Class A livery. Edit, correction, thanks to @MOGUL. 1270 is heating oil/kerosene. Edited December 4 by Mol_PMB marked in text 1 Quote
Mol_PMB Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Also, here are photos of the earlier (1970s) livery when the Esso logos were still carried, and before the extra reinforcements were added: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53527716615 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511632134 The only time I photographed them was around 1990 by which time the lettering was mostly in white rather than black: I think the tank colour was still the same mid-grey, under the grime. This is one of Ernie's photos dating from 1994 showing the white lettering variant when it was clean: 3 Quote
Mol_PMB Posted December 4 Posted December 4 ...and I've just found another one of my own from the early 2000s: 5 Quote
flange lubricator Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Another interesting thing about these wagons they were the first wagons to carry “beware over overhead lines “ as they had been running on BR and when they arrived in Ireland in 1971 we had no lines with overhead wires, which didn’t happen until the Dart in 1979 . 3 1 Quote
ttc0169 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, Wexford70 said: I assume there were used in mixed freight also? Yes-with 7-10 wagons laden or empty 48 minutes ago, Davenport said: Anyone know what type of oil was carried ? Fuel oil, Lub oil ,HFO ?? Home heating and diesel oil for the ESSO depot in Claremorris. 20 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: ...and I've just found another one of my own from the early 2000s: That’s the oil siding in Claremorris. 3 Quote
Edo Posted December 4 Posted December 4 So they werent used on the Magnesite trains or the foynes coal and oil trains? Quote
Mol_PMB Posted December 4 Posted December 4 19 minutes ago, Edo said: So they werent used on the Magnesite trains or the foynes coal and oil trains? There were many other oil tank wagons which looked superficially similar but were different in detail and dimensions. 1 Quote
flange lubricator Posted December 4 Posted December 4 20 minutes ago, Edo said: So they werent used on the Magnesite trains or the foynes coal and oil trains? No they were CIE wagons used on those trains , the 971-1013 wagons we different and owned by ESSO Teo , but operated and maintained by CIE / Irish Rail . 1 Quote
Mike 84C Posted December 4 Posted December 4 I'm astonished at the amount of product spillage on the tank barrels. Drove an oil tanker for a number of years, both top and bottom loading and loading spillages would get you banned from oil terminals. 1 Quote
MOGUL Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: There are some photos in the IRRS archive, but will not be visible to the wider audience. For example: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509330394 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509330399 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509328959 The hazard markings carried are 3YE 1270, which would indicate petrol. That would explain the Class A livery. UN1202 is diesel, UN1203 would be petrol and UN1270 is heating oil/kerosene.. They carried diesel and heating oil for most of their lives, but towards the end were confined to Kero/heating oil only, which may explain the end of the Sligo block train and it being replaced with blocks of tanks on the Sligo liner Edited December 4 by MOGUL 2 Quote
MOGUL Posted December 4 Posted December 4 19 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: No they were CIE wagons used on those trains , the 971-1013 wagons we different and owned by ESSO Teo , but operated and maintained by CIE / Irish Rail . The magnesite used tank wagons, but the Foynes to Ballina Coal/Oil was actually 20ft tank containers on flat wagons 1 1 Quote
flange lubricator Posted December 4 Posted December 4 15 minutes ago, MOGUL said: UN1202 is diesel, UN1203 would be petrol and UN1270 is heating oil/kerosene.. They carried diesel and heating oil for most of their lives, but towards the end were confined to Kero/heating oil only, which may explain the end of the Sligo block train and it being replaced with blocks of tanks on the Sligo liner I think as the wagons aged they were downgraded from Class A petrol to finally home heating oil Kerosene. Quote
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