Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive

[Irishswissernie]

IR 1994-07-xx Sligo Goods station 121 + 141 class shunt loco fuel tank. Sligo Oil train on left with a couple of shiny wagons with bright red underframes just out of the box! Bagged cement right. Bell Containers in background. ref249024.

UTA 1961-xx Dungannon BUT Railcar 128 yj101

West Clare, 1959-CA,possibly earlier. Ennis yj100

 

Edited November 24 by Irishswissernie

[Irishswissernie]

CIE 1982-06-28 Roscommon yj202. EDITED to change location.

CIE 1982-xx Claremorris yj186.

CIE 1962-09 Youghal 262 TJE  yj195.

 

 

Edited November 28 by Irishswissernie

[Irishswissernie]

I have also uploaded a couple of Negs showing details of the Lough Swilly 4-8-4 T valve gear and rear bogie, a bit 'niche' but there may be somebody out there desperate for such details

In the pipeline I am working through a set of colour slides taken in June 1964 covering the UTA lines at that time; taken by someone on a private trip (not a railtour) so some interesting items so far with more to come.

 L&LSR 1948-CA Derry, Pennyburn 4-8-4t rear bogie yj012.

L&LSR 1950-xxCA 4-8-4t Valve gear. yj009.

 

[Patrick Davey]

Looking forward to the 1964 UTA photos Ernie!

[airfixfan]

Swilly photos rare and useful for modellers

[Irishswissernie]

1 hour ago, Patrick Davey said:

Looking forward to the 1964 UTA photos Ernie!

Although they are AGFA slides rather than Kodachromes they are looking good. I have 63 so far and whilst most are the usual locations there are some different views at Warrenpoint, Finaghy, Lisburn etc and most feature trains rather than just loco portraits. More on the way hopefully together with a copy of the photographers records.

[Patrick Davey]

5 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

Although they are AGFA slides rather than Kodachromes they are looking good. I have 63 so far and whilst most are the usual locations there are some different views at Warrenpoint, Finaghy, Lisburn etc and most feature trains rather than just loco portraits. More on the way hopefully together with a copy of the photographers records.

My home station is in there........   

[spudfan]

On 29/9/2024 at 2:26 PM, airfixfan said:

The shed seen at Letterkenny now a car park at the shopping centre in Letterkenny!

The big house across on the left is still there.

[spudfan]

On 17/10/2024 at 10:02 AM, Irishswissernie said:

It was a good weekend Mike but not so good since, as apparently on the Saturday I was bitten by something on the hill above Tank Curve. What I thought was a scratch had turned in to a 4cm red circle by the following week and a quick trip to Casualty (5 min walk) resulted in a course of Anti-Biotics plus last week I have had my Covid and Flu Jabs! 

On with the Show!

GNRI 1953-07-xx Portadown 85 ADH yj044.

C&L  1955-CA Ballinamore goods sdgs. yj048.

CIE 1961-06-08 Sligo B132 yj046

 

I'd keep an eye on that bite. Might seem innocuous enough but sometimes long term consequences ensue.

[Irishswissernie]

CIE 1982-05-10 Kilbarrack 192 Bell liner  yj162.  

GNRI 1954-09-09 Clones  Railcars 610 + 611 Coprint neg lost ymm001.

GMK090 CIE 1955-xx Park Royal 10'-6'' Suburban open 3rd C191

 

 

[derek]

On 22/9/2023 at 8:04 AM, Irishswissernie said:

  

 

My God , what A beautiful setting/station that was. Wonder what it looks like today? A shagging greenway I suppose?

[Galteemore]

Still sees trains every day. 

[derek]

25 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Still sees trains every day. 

Thanks @Galteemore. What an absolute crying shame.

[airfixfan]

On 17/9/2023 at 11:36 AM, Irishswissernie said:

There were some more CDRJC views in the latest Dewing lot Jim. Here's a couple plus one  for 'Galteemore' I think he might like it.

Donegal Town Railcar 20 26 May 1957.

Stranorlar, Ex DBST converted to Trailer 3 plus a bit of the Turntable detail a not so common view looking south. 24 May 1957.

SLNCR 'Enniskillen' at Manorhamilton 27 May 1957.

 

 

Missed the first 2 CDR photos. Brilliant as always 

[Paul 34F]

12 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

 

Interesting vehicles in the background of this photo, on the right.  
There is a DNGR Full Brake, a Clerestory, (which may be a composite vehicle), and 6 wheeler complete with Guards Ducket.  Looking more closely it could be a W1 Full Brake.

Looking to the left, the coach most visible in platform three, has large windows and a high roof line.

Paul

[Irishswissernie]

NCC 1965-10-xx Larne Harbour 50 yj085.

CIE 1961-06-07 Loughrea yj234.

CIE 1961-06-04 Mallow 174 green H van on right. yj226.

 

 

[Mol_PMB]

Lovely! I'm compiling information on the green H vans for another of my wagon essays. They appear in the background and on the edges of a lot of photos, but rarely as the main subject.

Many thanks for sharing all your excellent photos.

Mol

[Irishswissernie]

IR 1990-05-23 Drogheda 164 in goods bay rf 249020.

CDRJC 1964-06-04 Strabane, after 4 years closure. JGD640517.

CIE 1957-04-20 Inchicore F6, 42 + A4 KCorig 249004

 

 

[airfixfan]

Strabane nice photo 

[derek]

6 hours ago, airfixfan said:

Strabane nice photo 

nature doesn't hang around. 4years and the tracks are almost fully hidden (close to the car0

[Galteemore]

Beautiful image of 42 in sparkling condition. Looks black rather than grey! Looks like a 400 in green to the left…..

[jhb171achill]

27 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Beautiful image of 42 in sparkling condition. Looks black rather than grey! Looks like a 400 in green to the left…..

 

It could be black - but also it could be filth. The clue is the buffer beam, which looks just as black. When a red buffer beam shows black, grey paint will look that way even quicker. Jury would have to be out on that one, I'd say...

[David Holman]

Try enlarging the photo. It is very much black and the only dirt appears to be water marks down the tank side. The A class is typically work stained.

 Am sure have seen other colour photos of locos with black buffer beams too.

[GSR 800]

9 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

 

It could be black - but also it could be filth. The clue is the buffer beam, which looks just as black. When a red buffer beam shows black, grey paint will look that way even quicker. Jury would have to be out on that one, I'd say...

I wouldn't count much on the bufferbeam, considering the front end of the loco is in shadow, as can be seen on the ground. Detail on the smokebox door barely visible.

She looks very black indeed, although the 'orange' hue of the number may indicate she's been cleaned with oily rags, hence her black but clean appearance. She's near spotless though..

The 400s green looks thoroughly dirty, sun bleached and faded. The lining is long gone!

Edited December 9 by GSR 800

[Galteemore]

Yes it’s a very clean loco. What’s also worth noticing is the state of the safety valves and whistle, clean as she is. Yet how often do we see shiny brass ones on models….images like this are gold dust in showing how locos weather. Notice too how the chassis is varying shades of oily/dusty black - except for the subtle brown/red brake blocks.  

Edited December 9 by Galteemore

[Horsetan]

12 hours ago, Galteemore said:

Beautiful image of 42 in sparkling condition. Looks black rather than grey! Looks like a 400 in green to the left…..

That's not just any oul 400 class, but one of the two Caprotti valve gear ones - it looks like no.406 with the straight footplate. This one lasted until 1957 - the photo suggests it had been out of use for a while, as corrosion is clearly visible on the reversing rod and the upper slidebar.

The other Caprotti 400, no.401, kept going until 1961 and may have used spares cannibalised from 406.

Edited December 9 by Horsetan

[Galteemore]

49 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

That's not just any oul 400 class, but the Caprotti valve gear one.

Thanks. Any locos south of Carrignagat Junction all look the same to me  

[Horsetan]

2 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Thanks. Any locos south of Carrignagat Junction all look the same to me  

The Caprottis were probably the best of a bad job in the context of the 400 class, but there were only the two that were converted.

[Galteemore]

4 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

The Caprottis were probably the best of a bad job in the context of the 400 class, but there were only the two that were converted.

The 400/500s are somewhat of a Cinderella it seems, often overshadowed by the 800s but incredibly capable locos when on form. Drew Donaldson certainly rated them. 

[Horsetan]

16 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

The 400/500s are somewhat of a Cinderella it seems, often overshadowed by the 800s but incredibly capable locos when on form. Drew Donaldson certainly rated them. 

If the 400s hadn't been quite so flawed, there might not have been the need to build the three 800s.

The 500s were appreciably better than the 400s, but there weren't enough of them.

[Irishswissernie]

2 hours ago, Horsetan said:

This one lasted until 1957 - the photo suggests it had been out of use for a while, as corrosion is clearly visible on the reversing rod and the upper slidebar.

Counting the tracks it looks as if its dumped in what I think was later called the 'Wall' siding.

[minister_for_hardship]

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

The 400/500s are somewhat of a Cinderella it seems, often overshadowed by the 800s but incredibly capable locos when on form. Drew Donaldson certainly rated them. 

Should have had more 500s, and forget about building the three enormous white (or is that green?) elephants.

Edited December 9 by minister_for_hardship

[Mayner]

1 hour ago, Horsetan said:

That's not just any oul 400 class, but one of the two Caprotti valve gear ones - it looks like no.406 with the straight footplate. This one lasted until 1957 - the photo suggests it had been out of use for a while, as corrosion is clearly visible on the reversing rod and the upper slidebar.

The other Caprotti 400, no.401, kept going until 1961 and may have used spares cannibalised from 406.

According to A Decade of Steam RPSI 1972 and Locomotives of the GSR 401 reverted to Walscherts valve gear in 1949 possibly to provide parts to keep 406 running, but I haven't seen photos of 401 in2 clinder form with Walscherts gear. W McDonnell Running Foreman Cork wrote the section of the 4-6-0 in a Decade of Steam from an enginemans perspective and considered 402 the "best of the class" as the most powerful and reliable. In practical terms 402 and the two Caprotti valve gear engines 401 and 406 were practically new locomotives when rebuilt with new frames, cylinders, wheel centres and motion. 402 was basically an express passenger version of the 500 Class originally introduced as a mixed traffic loco.

The 800 Class may have been as much a prestigious project to demonstrate the Free States technical and engineering ability as well a its traffic needs in a similar manner to the Drumm Battery Trains. Apparrently the 800 Class were fitted with parrallel boilers with tapered cladding which would have contributed to the similarity in general appearance between the Rebuilt-Royal Scots LMS and GSR 800 Class

[Galteemore]

It’s certainly remarkable that these most Irish of locos (the nameplates and livery for instance) appeared just after the 1937 constitution, which marked a significant step in Ireland’s identity as an independent state. 

[Horsetan]

1 hour ago, Mayner said:

.... Apparently the 800 Class were fitted with parallel boilers with tapered cladding which would have contributed to the similarity in general appearance between the Rebuilt-Royal Scots LMS and GSR 800 Class

Seems that the only tapered boilers that the GSR/CIE ever dealt with were those on the Woolwich Moguls. Everything else was strictly parallel.