heirflick Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 found this beautiful wagon in a siding off the depot in portlaoise....anyone got any info on it? looks like its for the cutters torch:( Quote
Dave Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 That is an oldie, would make a nice scratch built project. Weather it to bits! Quote
Mayner Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 I dont know if CIE had many it looks similar to the British Lomac wagons, Dapol/Airfix did one with an early JCB. Seem to have been used by the engineers to carry a small Priestman crawler crane I will see if I have a photo Quote
heirflick Posted August 5, 2012 Author Posted August 5, 2012 thanks john...all efforts appreciated! this modelseems to be a close match, except she is not vacum braked!! and as dave said weather it to bits! Quote
snapper Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Nice find. Interesting the way the brake pipe goes around the outside of the wagon. Makes me think the vacuum brakes were a retrofit. It also raised another point for me, I have plenty great books for looking up locomotives and coaches but not much on wagons, they just seem to be a small add-on to some books. Locomotives and Rolling stock of Coras Iompair Eireann and Northern Ireland by Oliver Doyle and Stephen Hirsch has some good info regarding running numbers but not much else. Are the any good books for referencing Irish freight stock? Quote
Dave Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 That looks nice and the kit is only £5.72 stg. A nice rake of 10 would look the business Quote
aclass007 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Nice find. Interesting the way the brake pipe goes around the outside of the wagon. Makes me think the vacuum brakes were a retrofit. It also raised another point for me, I have plenty great books for looking up locomotives and coaches but not much on wagons, they just seem to be a small add-on to some books. Locomotives and Rolling stock of Coras Iompair Eireann and Northern Ireland by Oliver Doyle and Stephen Hirsch has some good info regarding running numbers but not much else. Are the any good books for referencing Irish freight stock? Good question! But sadly, I don't think any such book exists. Let's hope someone proves me wrong....... Quote
ttc0169 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) found this beautiful wagon in a siding off the depot in portlaoise....anyone got any info on it? looks like its for the cutters torch:( <img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2112"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2113"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2114"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2115"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2116"/> Another great find HF, The wagon is described as a"machinery truck"in an old CIE working timetable, It has a capacity of 20 tonnes and weighs 12 tonnes, There is a photo of one on page 22 of"Rails through the West" on the River Fergus bridge in Ennis. CIE had six of these machinery trucks,no's 23957 to 23962. Edited August 5, 2012 by ttc0169 Quote
BosKonay Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Nice A little rake of 6 carrying cranes, diggers, tractors behind a C class would be lovely Quote
Kirley Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 I did not realise CIE had such a wagon until I saw on in Rails Throught The West. I have an old Airfix one but the JCB has long gone. Must dig it out some time, put metal wheels on it and see how it runs. Quote
RedRich Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Great find Seamus. There was a similar if not identical wagon in Waterford West for a long time. Rich, Quote
Weshty Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Excellent find. The affix kit did one with the jcb but dapol do them as two separate kits. Would certainly look suitable alright. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Wrenn produced a Lowmac back in the day Item W4652 in brown or W4652A in Grey Can be picked up on flea bay for around €15 Metal wheels and tri ang type couplings Quote
FrankS Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Hi Guys, Hattons do the Hornby (ex-Dapol ex-Wrenn) wagon as part of a split train set with a horrible open, a not bad van and a 4whl coach for £19. See: http://www.ehattons.com/31878/Hornby_Model_Railways_R1127Wagons_Wagons_lowmac_with_container_7_pank_wagon_Beswick_4_wheel_coach_ventilated_van/StockDetail.aspx Cheers, Quote
heirflick Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 just pucked up an airfix one on ebay for 9 pounds! now to find a crane similar to the modern one as in the pic from rails through the west-(GREAT BOOK!) Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 now to find a crane similar to the modern one as in the pic from rails through the west-(GREAT BOOK!) Take your pick from Hattons mate http://www.ehattons.com/36255/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225002_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_Drag_Shovel_Green_circa_1937/StockDetail.aspx http://www.ehattons.com/42878/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225003_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_Skimmer_Green_circa_1937_Due_into_stock_on_or_after_Friday_1/StockDetail.aspx http://www.ehattons.com/51348/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225004_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_Drag_Shovel_GWR/StockDetail.aspx http://www.ehattons.com/51349/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225005_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_Crane_NEW_TOOLING_/StockDetail.aspx http://www.ehattons.com/51350/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225006_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_LNER_Skimmer_/StockDetail.aspx http://www.ehattons.com/57629/Corgi_Trackside_inc_Lledo_Diecast_Vehicles_DG225007_Ruston_Bucyrus_19_face_shovel_in_Southern_railways_green_/StockDetail.aspx Quote
Gordon71 Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Not sure if this is the same wagon or not but i took a couple of photos in Dublin back in 30.3.06 not the sharpest of pics but i added 2 to the following link if you want to have a look. Gordon http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/24593917_9tpCd2#!i=2009359543&k=MgGS6hd Quote
heirflick Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) thanks gordon-same little bugger! now we know what type of ceane to look for:rolleyes:....mind you, that one dosent look to have been used in a while! there is a more modern crane shown on repair work on the fergus bridge near ennis in the book called 'rails through the west' which would suit the modern era. love to put it up here but copyright and all that .............maybe jhb171achil can help here! ( if i ask nicely!!!) anthony-good link there -thanks Edited August 6, 2012 by heirflick Quote
heirflick Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 (no stress seamus!) i have lost the plot!! Quote
heirflick Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 Wrenn produced a Lowmac back in the dayItem W4652 in brown or W4652A in Grey Can be picked up on flea bay for around €15 Metal wheels and tri ang type couplings dave, this might interest you! arrived this morning....look at the price! any info on this? Quote
Broithe Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Seems to have been part of this set - http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/WagonsSSA.htm Quote
heirflick Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 fair play broithe..question answered! dont remember anything called dr x when i was a nipper- must be before my time! Quote
Broithe Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 fair play broithe..question answered! dont remember anything called dr x when i was a nipper- must be before my time! There was a film in 1932 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_X_(film) - was it not on at the Colosseum? Quote
Broithe Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 There's more - http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/ARSdr.Xset.htm Quote
heirflick Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 could well have been, but i was banished from mullingar to portlaoise when i was 18,the cinema there was called the Hibernian...never got there much as we were always on the lakes! was only in the colosseum once and that was before it was burned down. ah yes.....'an officer and a gentleman' was the film. back row with.........nough said! Quote
Glenderg Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 ....banished from mullingar.... - Tar and/or feathers involved? Quote
heirflick Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 - Tar and/or feathers involved? neither............. father told me to find a job! Quote
Broithe Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 - Tar and/or feathers involved? It was in all the papers.. Quote
heirflick Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 ok ......thats my brother - and he deserved it! he tried to impersonate joe dolan with the song 'tar and cement' (not a word of a lie!) Quote
Kirley Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I did not realise CIE had such a wagon until I saw on in Rails Throught The West. I have an old Airfix one but the JCB has long gone. Must dig it out some time, put metal wheels on it and see how it runs. Found my original Airfix Low Loader model and part of an Esso Oil Tanker. I’ll not tell you how old they are but are probably older than lots on members on this site. The kit came in a yellow colour and you can see where I used some pollyfiller underneath to provide some weight. I would like to strip it back and paint it in more authentic colours (and hopefully a better job than using Airfix paints and brush) but building the layout is taking all my time at the moment. Quote
Garfield Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) A few of these wagons have cropped up from time to time in the past few years. They seem to have been employed mostly by the S&T department in more recent times to carry a tracked crane when signals were being installed or removed. The formation of such trains was usually one well wagon sandwiched by a pair of bogie flats. I wonder if this is the same one that was last seen in a corner of Waterford yard? Another two were last seen in North Wall just before it was rationalised, but presumably the scrapman got to them... Edited August 11, 2012 by Garfield Quote
jhb171achill Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 The one in "Rails Through the West" was knocking about that part of the world carrying a digger in connection with the rebuilding of the R. Fergus bridge. I saw one somewhere about that time with a digger / JCB or something like that on it. Might have been in Limerick or else Inchicore, can't recall. Quote
heirflick Posted August 11, 2012 Author Posted August 11, 2012 lads, in talking to one of the authors of the book 'rails through the west'....(.none other than our own jhb171 achill)... he has kindly given me permission to put up that pic of the lowloader carring the crane at the fergus bridge -many thanks john, im sure the lads appreciate it! now that would ne a great scene on any layout! Quote
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