GNRi1959 Posted May 6, 2019 Author Posted May 6, 2019 Thanks David, the final challenge is the painting of the asbestos roof. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Nice contrasting stone and sky, Omagh Goods Store progresses on ....... Edited May 7, 2019 by GNRi1959 2 2 Quote
David Holman Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The sky adds a new dimension, as will ground cover (track and trains even!). Also worth considering even presentation, because it deserves a wider audience, so proper 'proscenium arch' type framing, as per Iain Rice, plus lighting, well worth while considering, eventually? Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Posted May 7, 2019 David, I'm looking into having an authentic backscene photographed and printed. I'm sure its possible. The Omagh skyline in this area has not really changed at this location. I just need to check out who can print it. As for the 'proscenium arch' and lighting, they will be last on my list 'to do'. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Noel, Thanks, welcome comments. Can anyone give me their opinion of a sample piece of the roof I painted today, bearing in mind it is a corrugated asbestos roof - feedback please. Edited May 7, 2019 by GNRi1959 Quote
popeye Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The roof looks great, don't stop now, your on a roll. 1 Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Posted May 7, 2019 To be honest, I'm still not convinced.... Quote
popeye Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 There is a lot of roof, but we shall see how it looks when it is all done. Quote
KMCE Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Tony, The detail is excellent, but don't treat it on a panel by panel basis. The roof would have weathered homogeneously with subtle differences at the sheet lines. This is looking good keep going! Ken Quote
jhb171achill Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, GNRi1959 said: To be honest, I'm still not convinced.... That looks really good! Keep it up......! Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Posted May 8, 2019 6 hours ago, KMCE said: Tony, The detail is excellent, but don't treat it on a panel by panel basis. The roof would have weathered homogeneously with subtle differences at the sheet lines. This is looking good keep going! Ken I think that is the problem, using a small artists brush on a 'panel by panel's basis has restricted the natural colour effect. I'll go to the paint store and pick up a larger brush (a painter's 'fitch is what I need) Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Posted May 8, 2019 Not pleased with previous coverings, I tried this one today...... 1 Quote
popeye Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 What colours are you using on the roof. The roof in the background looks good, how about doing it like that? Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Posted May 8, 2019 The roof in the background is slate, the goods store was asbestos. Quote
murrayec Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, popeye said: What colours are you using on the roof. The roof in the background looks good, how about doing it like that? I think popeye means colour not materials Take a look here for some colouring samples;- https://www.google.com/search?q=asbestos+roof&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZl9XU44ziAhW8VBUIHS5hCtwQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=1280&bih=891 Quote
RobertRoche Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Perhaps try building up the colour and weathering on that base colour. Quote
popeye Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Plenty of examples on that web link. It can be hard to judge the colours on a computer but look at the pic's on the web and try some. The only person you have to please is you. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, murrayec said: I think popeye means colour not materials Take a look here for some colouring samples;- https://www.google.com/search?q=asbestos+roof&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZl9XU44ziAhW8VBUIHS5hCtwQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=1280&bih=891 Yes indeed, slate and asbestos are two different colours. I got this colour today which is very close to what I'm after. It is a cement/concrete colour and this is a first coat, without weathering..... Edited May 9, 2019 by GNRi1959 3 Quote
DART8118 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 The colour and your weathering approach on the lean-too office roof and on the loading bay canopy would do it for me. Are they asbestos? In particular the weathering from ridge line to eaves, a continuous stroke across the different asbestos sheets. A great piece of modelling. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Dart8118, Thanks for that, including the picture. There are several challenges with this roof, compared to the smaller lean-to. The vast area, combined with skylights make it difficult to maintain a consistent acceptable finish. Finally, I am so critical of my work that if i don't feel that it is right, it won't be. Edited May 10, 2019 by GNRi1959 Quote
David Holman Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Weathered asbestos in 2019 shouldn't be too different to any period in the last 100 years, apart from being a bit less sooty probably. I am often tempted to paint what I think, but then my art teacher's words immediately come back to 'paint what you see' and out come photos, Google pics etc. Dart's picture suggests to me a combination of stippling darker tones on the concrete basecoat, but also using paper towel and thinners to wipe away some areas. Using enamels, this can be done up to 24 hours after the paint has been applied, though wait up to 48 hours for the base coat to harden before adding the darker top coat. Weathering powders and talc help add texture too. When you think a roof like this weathered over many years, it means painting and weathering time on the model will be an extended process too. Worth it though, because it is such a fine model and the roof inevitably stands out because it is such a large part of it. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Very informative comments there David. I've given it another coat with some shading of darker greys. Nothing too strong. I think I will leave it alone for a while and move on to other things, this will give me time to see how it looks as the drying paint dulls down. Edited May 10, 2019 by GNRi1959 Quote
popeye Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 That looks like a nice colour but will need weathered. Quote
NIR Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 That looks fine to me, over here it would be bleached a powdery white but your local climate says differently! Quote
DART8118 Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 The streaky effect that you have on the sheets on the right looks good to me. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 Bear with me friends.... I have just weathered it with a wide fitch, dry brushed to simulate the sooty, Smokey conditions of a 1950s goods yard. I'm really pleased with it and photos will follow. 2 Quote
popeye Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Sometimes you have to just throw it on and see what happens. If it turns out ok then leave it. That looks better but i would use more brown, it's up to you. If your happy i'm happy. Quote
GNRi1959 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Posted May 10, 2019 I have to add some yellow ochre which will look like brown when it dries, that's for tomorrow Quote
DART8118 Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 The colour in the first photo of these four looks perfect to me. The profile curvature of the sheets is emphasised and there is a 'grey' balance in the whole model. I'd be thinking of a light dusting of soot now over everything. Don't overdo it. It looks great. Quote
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