CLASS 181

[burnthebox]

Hi guys, this may have been advertised before, but just in case there’s a rush, I’m staying out...!!  & this seller post’s to Ireland, for £22.57
BTB

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BACHMANN-MURPHY-MODELS-CLASS-181-IR-ORANGE-183-WEATHERED-IRISH-ENGINE-MM0183-/284081886910?hash=item42249996be&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId

[Robert Shrives]

Good luck to the seller!

 I got mine for £45 from the now closed  Ian Allen in Birmingham off the bargains table...

I have put this on the watch list just for fun.

Robert 

[Noel]

Our 183 cost €106 four years ago. 

[DiveController]

3 hours ago, Robert Shrives said:

Good luck to the seller!

 I got mine for £45 from the now closed  Ian Allen in Birmingham off the bargains table...

I have put this on the watch list just for fun.

Robert 

Hah! the postage to the US on this one is almost that. Good for you

[DJ Dangerous]

I wonder if the release of the 121's will knock some sense into the incredible asking prices for 141's and 181's.

[gm171 kk]

184 sold for €175 last night. 

[DJ Dangerous]

3 minutes ago, gm171 kk said:

184 sold for €175 last night. 

BNIB?

[gm171 kk]

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

BNIB?

Used condition in the box. Couldn't see any faults. 

[DJ Dangerous]

4 minutes ago, gm171 kk said:

Used condition in the box. Couldn't see any faults. 

Not as bad as the prices that some of them have been going for.

At least Hattons are still reasonable for them when they come along.

[Niles]

There seems to have been a plethora of 184s on eBay lately, could be that so many at once is effecting the price. 

[murphaph]

Which of the baby GMs are the rarest?

I'm missing two of the tippex ones (only era I'm interested in really), 143 and 187. 

Are these any rarer than the other seven tippex babies? 

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Which of the baby GMs are the rarest?

I'm missing two of the tippex ones (only era I'm interested in really), 143 and 187. 

Are these any rarer than the other seven tippex babies? 

Actually, following on from that, which of the 141's and 181's sold quickest at launch?

I know from WRENNEIRE's thread that the quantities produced were all either 500 or 504, and the launches were staggered with a few different running numbers every few months.

So it's strange that the same five or six running numbers tend to pop up more frequently on eBay, B141, B165, 184 etc.

171 and B188 are the two that I'm hungry for but they don't ever pop up. Think I saw a 171 for €400 a few months back, but a ten year old 141 isn't worth three brand new 121's!

[Noel]

2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Actually, following on from that, which of the 141's and 181's sold quickest at launch?

I know from WRENNEIRE's thread that the quantities produced were all either 500 or 504, and the launches were staggered with a few different running numbers every few months.

So it's strange that the same five or six running numbers tend to pop up more frequently on eBay, B141, B165, 184 etc.

171 and B188 are the two that I'm hungry for but they don't ever pop up. Think I saw a 171 for €400 a few months back, but a ten year old 141 isn't worth three brand new 121's!

I Guess the first which was B141 probably flew off the shelves. See list below. 'CIE Black' is actually CIE 'Black'n'Tan' livery (ie black all over with white mid band and orange band at sole bar gunnel level to match coaches. That's 8,500 baby GMs in total produced with an extra 500 B141a preserved produced about 7 years ago (ie RPSI version without the tablet catchers).

PS: It is only 12 years since the baby GMs first appeared and started the transformation of the Irish hobby. Ok the Lima 201s  were early naughties but it was the Bachmann/MM 141/181s that changed everything.

[DJ Dangerous]

Ha! I have a similar spreadsheet!

[enniscorthyman]

I think 146 in IE livery is very much sought after.

[murphaph]

Any particular reason for that? 

[jhb171achill]

2 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Any particular reason for that? 

It’s preserved in working order at Downpatrick.

[DJ Dangerous]

46 minutes ago, enniscorthyman said:

I think 146 in IE livery is very much sought after.

I just swapped a BNIB 146 for 177 as I had two 146's!

Edited November 23, 2020 by DJ Dangerous

[murphaph]

Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick?

[DJ Dangerous]

3 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick?

 

It sure is!

 

 

[jhb171achill]

48 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick?

It is - "tippex" livery with "set-of-points" logo instead of the "3-pin plug". Thus, 1987-mid 1990s.

[Garfield]

2 hours ago, murphaph said:

Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick?

Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos...

[WRENNEIRE]

Dont forget 171 in IE livery, commissioned by Marks
So realistically CIE Black & IE liveries are the most common

[murphaph]

5 hours ago, Garfield said:

Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos...

Ah I see. Well that explains that. Luckily I'm not looking for that one!

Anybody got any explanation for 143 and 187 or have I just been a bit unlucky and they're not rarer than the others?

[murphaph]

5 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Dont forget 171 in IE livery, commissioned by Marks

Is this MM0171 or something else?

[Westcorkrailway]

B141 sold on ebay for 170 (came with decoder) and B165 sold for 180 both with boxes and in black n tan. 161SA in supertrain livery is at 150 sterling at the moment. definitely a lot more popping up on eBay at the moment due to the 121's i suspect?

[WRENNEIRE]

5 hours ago, murphaph said:

Is this MM0171 or something else?

MM0171 Came out in Feb '11

 

[DJ Dangerous]

Just now, WRENNEIRE said:

MM0171 Came out in Feb '11

 

 

Is that one for sale?????

[WRENNEIRE]

Unfortunately ..................

[DJ Dangerous]

Just now, WRENNEIRE said:

Unfortunately ..................

 

PM me and take my money, please...

[jhb171achill]

13 hours ago, Garfield said:

Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos...

Indeed

[Noel]

1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said:

MM0171 Came out in Feb '11

 

How on earth do you get the tissue cover paper back on those boxes Dave?

15 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

It sure is!

 

 

Horn sounded a little anaemic at 01m47s and 02m40s. EMD sounded great at idle. No rattling plates.

[DJ Dangerous]

15 minutes ago, Noel said:

How on earth do you get the tissue cover paper back on those boxes Dave?

Horn sounded a little anaemic at 01m47s and 02m40s. EMD sounded great at idle. No rattling plates.

Never take the tissue off.

Ever.