burnthebox Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Hi guys, this may have been advertised before, but just in case there’s a rush, I’m staying out...!! & this seller post’s to Ireland, for £22.57 BTB https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BACHMANN-MURPHY-MODELS-CLASS-181-IR-ORANGE-183-WEATHERED-IRISH-ENGINE-MM0183-/284081886910?hash=item42249996be&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shrives Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Good luck to the seller! I got mine for £45 from the now closed Ian Allen in Birmingham off the bargains table... I have put this on the watch list just for fun. Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Our 183 cost €106 four years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: Good luck to the seller! I got mine for £45 from the now closed Ian Allen in Birmingham off the bargains table... I have put this on the watch list just for fun. Robert Hah! the postage to the US on this one is almost that. Good for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I wonder if the release of the 121's will knock some sense into the incredible asking prices for 141's and 181's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm171 kk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 184 sold for €175 last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, gm171 kk said: 184 sold for €175 last night. BNIB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm171 kk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: BNIB? Used condition in the box. Couldn't see any faults. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, gm171 kk said: Used condition in the box. Couldn't see any faults. Not as bad as the prices that some of them have been going for. At least Hattons are still reasonable for them when they come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 There seems to have been a plethora of 184s on eBay lately, could be that so many at once is effecting the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Which of the baby GMs are the rarest? I'm missing two of the tippex ones (only era I'm interested in really), 143 and 187. Are these any rarer than the other seven tippex babies? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, murphaph said: Which of the baby GMs are the rarest? I'm missing two of the tippex ones (only era I'm interested in really), 143 and 187. Are these any rarer than the other seven tippex babies? Actually, following on from that, which of the 141's and 181's sold quickest at launch? I know from WRENNEIRE's thread that the quantities produced were all either 500 or 504, and the launches were staggered with a few different running numbers every few months. So it's strange that the same five or six running numbers tend to pop up more frequently on eBay, B141, B165, 184 etc. 171 and B188 are the two that I'm hungry for but they don't ever pop up. Think I saw a 171 for €400 a few months back, but a ten year old 141 isn't worth three brand new 121's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Actually, following on from that, which of the 141's and 181's sold quickest at launch? I know from WRENNEIRE's thread that the quantities produced were all either 500 or 504, and the launches were staggered with a few different running numbers every few months. So it's strange that the same five or six running numbers tend to pop up more frequently on eBay, B141, B165, 184 etc. 171 and B188 are the two that I'm hungry for but they don't ever pop up. Think I saw a 171 for €400 a few months back, but a ten year old 141 isn't worth three brand new 121's! I Guess the first which was B141 probably flew off the shelves. See list below. 'CIE Black' is actually CIE 'Black'n'Tan' livery (ie black all over with white mid band and orange band at sole bar gunnel level to match coaches. That's 8,500 baby GMs in total produced with an extra 500 B141a preserved produced about 7 years ago (ie RPSI version without the tablet catchers). PS: It is only 12 years since the baby GMs first appeared and started the transformation of the Irish hobby. Ok the Lima 201s were early naughties but it was the Bachmann/MM 141/181s that changed everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Ha! I have a similar spreadsheet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I think 146 in IE livery is very much sought after. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Any particular reason for that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, murphaph said: Any particular reason for that? It’s preserved in working order at Downpatrick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, enniscorthyman said: I think 146 in IE livery is very much sought after. I just swapped a BNIB 146 for 177 as I had two 146's! Edited November 23, 2020 by DJ Dangerous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, murphaph said: Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick? It sure is! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, murphaph said: Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick? It is - "tippex" livery with "set-of-points" logo instead of the "3-pin plug". Thus, 1987-mid 1990s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, murphaph said: Yeah but is it not in IR livery in Downpatrick? Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Dont forget 171 in IE livery, commissioned by Marks So realistically CIE Black & IE liveries are the most common 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Garfield said: Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos... Ah I see. Well that explains that. Luckily I'm not looking for that one! Anybody got any explanation for 143 and 187 or have I just been a bit unlucky and they're not rarer than the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Dont forget 171 in IE livery, commissioned by Marks Is this MM0171 or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 B141 sold on ebay for 170 (came with decoder) and B165 sold for 180 both with boxes and in black n tan. 161SA in supertrain livery is at 150 sterling at the moment. definitely a lot more popping up on eBay at the moment due to the 121's i suspect? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, murphaph said: Is this MM0171 or something else? MM0171 Came out in Feb '11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, WRENNEIRE said: MM0171 Came out in Feb '11 Is that one for sale????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Unfortunately .................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, WRENNEIRE said: Unfortunately .................. PM me and take my money, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Garfield said: Yes, but was originally preserved with the 'Plug & Socket' logos... Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said: MM0171 Came out in Feb '11 How on earth do you get the tissue cover paper back on those boxes Dave? 15 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: It sure is! Horn sounded a little anaemic at 01m47s and 02m40s. EMD sounded great at idle. No rattling plates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Noel said: How on earth do you get the tissue cover paper back on those boxes Dave? Horn sounded a little anaemic at 01m47s and 02m40s. EMD sounded great at idle. No rattling plates. Never take the tissue off. Ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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