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On 12/5/2025 at 6:32 PM, amdaley said:

Look at who's selling it 🙄

Yeah, He's obviously missed the 1 between the £ and the 6...................................................

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On 12/5/2025 at 5:36 PM, WRENNEIRE said:

If you look at the seller's other items, virtually all of it is way overpriced. He's notorious for it.

Seller's name is Greg Diffen - I seem to recall he was born in Australia and emigrated here many many years ago. Australians are famously hard-nosed capitalists - see Macquarie Bank which drained all the money out of Thames Water over the course of seven years' ownership of the utility, and also loaded it with massive debt which has now grown to such a degree that Thames Water is effectively insolvent.

His eBay ID "gostude" is derived from his other hobby which is collecting Studebaker cars - at one point he was a very big noise in the Studebaker Owners Club UK. It is entirely possible that the price gouging on model railway items is to help pay for his Studebaker habit.

This is Mr. Diffen

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On 12/5/2025 at 9:27 AM, Galteemore said:

That’s a very good conversion. 

The model is. 

But:

"WARTIME GREY"!!!!????

What a ranting, raving, unholy mess!

First; Ireland was not involved in the war, and even had it been, CIE was not formed until 1945!

Second, the livery is as fantasy-based as a tartan, lime green and pink livery would be for a GNR 4.4.0.

1. The grey is even lighter than wagon grey. GSWR / GSR / CIE loco grey was a very dark grey.

2. Even if it was correct, smokebox should also be grey.

3. Cylinders and wheels would also be grey.

It's described as being an "authentic" model. Rule No. 1, of course, applies to all modellers and layouts; if he wants to paint it up like that, and imagine that CIE existed during either world war, fine - but don't try to pass it off as "authentic" anything!

 

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18 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

The model is. 

But:

"WARTIME GREY"!!!!????

What a ranting, raving, unholy mess!

First; Ireland was not involved in the war, and even had it been, CIE was not formed until 1945!

Second, the livery is as fantasy-based as a tartan, lime green and pink livery would be for a GNR 4.4.0.

1. The grey is even lighter than wagon grey. GSWR / GSR / CIE loco grey was a very dark grey.

2. Even if it was correct, smokebox should also be grey.

3. Cylinders and wheels would also be grey.

It's described as being an "authentic" model. Rule No. 1, of course, applies to all modellers and layouts; if he wants to paint it up like that, and imagine that CIE existed during either world war, fine - but don't try to pass it off as "authentic" anything!

 

I suspect the ‘wartime grey’ is a reference by the dealer (who has probably bought this in an estate sale and is gamely trying to work out what it is ) to the SECR wartime grey that the orginal Woolwich moguls bore, and which may have been the livery on the model used for this conversion. Looks like a WW1 SECR body stuck on a BR liveried chassis. 

 

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