gm171 kk Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Does anyone know what length the ammonia tankers were and was it the 42ft or 47ft flat wagons that carried the water tanks? Quote
0 waffles Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 ammonia wagon were 51'9" long and were built in France and were on lease originally. there were two types of the tank wagon 32001 - 32020 and the later 32021 - 32023 and the odd one out 32014 differnt design. Barrier wagons were 42'9" nunbered 30279 - 30284 Quote
0 Weshty Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 `Thanks Waffles. Is 51'9" the length from tank end to tank end or from buffer frame to buffer frame? Quote
0 BosKonay Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Nice one Have added that to the library at http://irishrailmodels.com/2012/05/23/ammonia-tankers/ Quote
0 Weshty Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Nice one Have added that to the library at http://irishrailmodels.com/2012/05/23/ammonia-tankers/ You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Quote
0 iarnrod Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Des, Any idea on when your ammonia kits will make an appearance? Quote
0 heirflick Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 Nice one Have added that to the library at http://irishrailmodels.com/2012/05/23/ammonia-tankers/ stephen - the library is turning out to be an excelent reference point for the lads! Quote
0 Weshty Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 Des,Any idea on when your ammonia kits will make an appearance? I will start work on the 42' bogie flat and the Ammonia in the new year so I would hope to have something around mid March. Quote
0 iarnrod Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 I will start work on the 42' bogie flat and the Ammonia in the new year so I would hope to have something around mid March. Sound. Can't wait. Quote
0 Blu Bianco Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) There understandably is a quite high demand for these, also referenced by the Model Shop up in Belfast having to discontinue their made-to-order function. They must be completely backed up with orders for them! Edited November 12, 2012 by Blu Bianco Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 There understandably is a quite high demand for these, also referenced by the Model Shop up in Belfast having to discontinue their made-to-order function. They must be completely backed up with orders for them! The reason there is a high demand for these is because, Firstly MIR ceased trading over a year ago now and Secondly MIR's last production run of the ammonia tankers was several years ago now so there are none to be had unless somebody stockpiled them Quote
0 Glenderg Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Plus trying to find a preformed tube of 35.4mm diameter to scratchbuild your own is impossible to find. You should have seen me rooting through her collection of bottles and sprays with a calliper to see if there was anything suitable. I had even contemplating secreting one about my person and nicking into Tesco to measure up. How sad. No joy as yet, and as for the rounded ends? I think Mr Bracken suggested chopping up broom handles.... R. Quote
0 Broithe Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Plus trying to find a preformed tube of 35.4mm diameter to scratchbuild your own is impossible to find. You should have seen me rooting through her collection of bottles and sprays with a calliper to see if there was anything suitable. I had even contemplating secreting one about my person and nicking into Tesco to measure up. How sad. No joy as yet, and as for the rounded ends? I think Mr Bracken suggested chopping up broom handles.... R. 32mm waste pipes might not be far off on the o/d - it should be around 34.5mm, apparently - http://www.bes.co.uk/products/127.asp Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 as for the rounded ends? I think Mr Bracken suggested chopping up broom handles.... R. He must have big hands because that would be one thick broom handle Quote
0 Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Plus trying to find a preformed tube of 35.4mm diameter to scratchbuild your own is impossible to find. You should have seen me rooting through her collection of bottles and sprays with a calliper to see if there was anything suitable. I had even contemplating secreting one about my person and nicking into Tesco to measure up. How sad. No joy as yet, and as for the rounded ends? I think Mr Bracken suggested chopping up broom handles.... R. Give Dave your waste paper he could make them out of paper mache and an added bonus its bound to be lighter than resin and would,nt need a primer before a coat of paint. Edited November 12, 2012 by hidden-agenda Quote
0 Glenderg Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Give Dave your waste paper he could make them out of paper mache and an added bonus its bound to be lighter than resin and would,nt need a primer before a coat of paint. same texture as the finished item too for that weathered look. The Dia of the real cylinder is 2700mm. Quote
0 Broithe Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Waste pipe plus a wrap of 0.5mm sheet..? Quote
0 Broithe Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Would this ring any bells - http://uk.opitec.com/opitec-web/articleNumber/223029 - at 50p a shot..? Maybe a bit deep.. Quote
0 Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Deodorant container tops (might need a coat of filler to build them up) the type on dove might do the ends and your waste pipe with a covering of plastic and blue peter will be ringing the next day. Seriously though its amazing how you can start with some regular house hold bits and pieces and end up with a great idea. Quote
0 gm171 kk Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 Small bit of work to one of these and you'd have a pretty accurate Irish ammonia tanker. Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Small bit of work to one of these and you'd have a pretty accurate Irish ammonia tanker.[ATTACH=CONFIG]3684[/ATTACH] Where can you get them? Quote
0 gm171 kk Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 I don't know Anthony but it is an LS models Lampogas gas tanker. Quote
0 Weshty Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Where can you get them? Superficially they are similiar but the Ammonnia does not have that length long cowl on the barrel. The support collar also sits much higher and there is a flange that attaches the supportcollar to the barrel. The support collar also does not taper at the headstock end. Still.... Quote
0 Garfield Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I don't know Anthony but it is an LS models Lampogas gas tanker. You'd better have the platinum Mastercard handy... LS Models products ain't the cheapest. Also, they only produce limited runs and when an item is out of stock, that's usually the last you'll them. Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I don't know Anthony but it is an LS models Lampogas gas tanker. It looks a nice starting ground for a bit of kit bashing Quote
0 RedRich Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 As Des has said they would need some surgery to replicate the Irish wagons. If I remember the same wagons as ours ran in the UK. Who knows maybe one of the manufacturers of UK models may do a run in the future. Pat is right LS models are very expensive. Rich, Quote
0 Warbonnet Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 They're HO too, so could be all over the place size wise. Quote
0 WRENNEIRE Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 LS are a Belgian outfit, so I reckon these are HO? Quote
0 Garfield Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 LS are a Belgian outfit, so I reckon these are HO? Spot on... HO scale, too. Quote
0 Guest hidden-agenda Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.eurotrainhobby.com/ls-models-pressurized-gas-tank-car-lampo/p9809c369 Not a bad price but still not a close match. Quote
0 Irish Freight Models Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Hi all, Irish Freight models will be releasing an Ammonia Wagon fairly shortly as the project is well advanced, and will compliment our barrier wagons already in our range ! keep an eye on our website for details and pre production photos soon ! regards Tom Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.eurotrainhobby.com/ls-models-pressurized-gas-tank-car-lampo/p9809c369 Not a bad price but still not a close match. I thought it would be more expensive than that for a European model Quote
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