Mayner Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Introduced in 1966 as a general purpose flat wagon these were the 1st of the CIE family of 20T flats. The wagons were intended mainly for palletised and container traffic and fitted with swing down stanchions and tie downs for securing a load and were retro-fitted with cuplocks when ISO container standards were finalised in 1969. The wagons were used for palletised keg, fertiliser and container traffic until the widespread introduction of bogie flats and purpose built fertiliser wagons and keg flats in the mid-late 70s. 256436 series flats formed the basis of the bagged cement and beet doubles, others ended up in departmental use on the cable train, sleeper wagons, one was fitted with a Hiab for use with the S&E department on the DART electrification and signalling. The original intention was a detailing fret for the Prestwin with floor, bufferbeams, brake gear and solebar detail, in the end a complete kit turned out to be simpler and more effective. Test Build 25436 Series Flat The test assembly went together very well all of the critical components are self locating with slots and tabs. I need to look at the decking chequer plate ended up as polka dots and re-jig the buffer beams. I am looking at detail castings for this and the 22'6" flat I have the masters for the spring and dampers somewhere, MJT do reasonably close roller bearing axlebox and buffers. At this stage I am not sure on cost possible release date Autumn (Northern) 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Looking very good. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Looks great John, I would certainly be interested in a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iarnrod Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinkansen Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Very nice work John. Nothing as crisp and realistic as brass:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Lovely work John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Beautifully crisp detail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 rtr john? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 rtr john? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 rtr john? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 That's very very tasty. Some beautiful crisp brass detailing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Oh, that is very nice indeed, well done John. Brass is great for the extra fine detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iarnrod Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Any update on the 20' and 22' wagons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandbridgejct Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That's a beautiful piece of work. A few white metal details for springs, axleboxes, pipes and the like and she's there. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I am looking at finalising the brass work for the flats later this month, then its a matter of sorting out some castings probably for release in early-mid 2015. While the lead time and turn round on the etching side of things is quite rapid, lead time form pattern making to the finished castings are much longer and less predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Good news John, they will be worth the wait. The tin van is such a fantastic kit, and the built model is amazing. No doubt the wagons will be as impressive. I'm really looking forward to them. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iarnrod Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Some lovely wagons, John. I would be interested in several of these if you're planning to release them this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Bit early for a resurrection, Dive. Easter Sunday is next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Introduced in 1966 as a general purpose flat wagon these were the 1st of the CIE family of 20T flats. The wagons were intended mainly for palletised and container traffic and fitted with swing down stanchions and tie downs for securing a load and were retro-fitted with cuplocks when ISO container standards were finalised in 1969. The wagons were used for palletised keg, fertiliser and container traffic until the widespread introduction of bogie flats and purpose built fertiliser wagons and keg flats in the mid-late 70s. 256436 series flats formed the basis of the bagged cement and beet doubles, others ended up in departmental use on the cable train, sleeper wagons, one was fitted with a Hiab for use with the S&E department on the DART electrification and signalling. The original intention was a detailing fret for the Prestwin with floor, bufferbeams, brake gear and solebar detail, in the end a complete kit turned out to be simpler and more effective. [ATTACH=CONFIG]12735[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]12736[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]12737[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]12738[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]12739[/ATTACH] Test Build 25436 Series Flat The test assembly went together very well all of the critical components are self locating with slots and tabs. I need to look at the decking chequer plate ended up as polka dots and re-jig the buffer beams. I am looking at detail castings for this and the 22'6" flat I have the masters for the spring and dampers somewhere, MJT do reasonably close roller bearing axlebox and buffers. At this stage I am not sure on cost possible release date Autumn (Northern) 2014 Any development on these wagons John or did I miss later updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Kieran, I think the plan is for release later this year. John will be on line shortly, no doubt. Looking forward to these Edited March 31, 2016 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) I may need to hire Kevin as a press and publicity agent I hope to do an update in the next two weeks, Thump was kind of right the final version of the fret arrived last week, I just need to prepare a master for the cuplocks At this stage the plan is to release the wagon in late 2016. Edited March 30, 2016 by Mayner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 ... John will be doing on line shortly, no doubt.... I do hope so. Online ordering from an overseas enterprise makes things easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 At this stage the plan is to release the wagon in late 2016. Thanks for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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