KMCE Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 That's an excellent coach & I love the finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Absolutely superb finish - very realistic! The original finish, believe it it not was a rich maroon, but it wasn’t just the painter - but more so outdoor storage, weathering, brake dust, the cheapest quality paint they could get, and even poorer undercoat, which got most remaining coaches into this state! The general manager told Senior that he was so embarrassed by them, he would prefer to borrow one from CIE or the GNR, if there was any sort of special train or “VIP” about…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northroader Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 The paint finish is great, how you’ve managed to get a totally run down appearance is marvellous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Having acquired a considerable amount of machinery to build ‘Enniskillen’, it seemed rude not to build another engine. The only question was what to build. I had long thought of a D19 Kerry bogie. However, I have also been doing much soul searching on my modelling future - more on that anon. Suffice to say I have ditched - or am attempting to - all my CIE stuff and going SLNC all out. But I still felt I should build a 4-4-0 - as @leslie10646and @jhb171achillknow, I was brought up to respect the GNRI and all its works! I have long had an affection for the GN locos, especially the smaller and more ancient types such as the Ps and PP. As many of you know, the SLNC had two J class 4-4-0s, bought 2nd hand off the GNR. Expecting these two elderly ladies to cope with the vagaries of SL gradients and curves was cruel really - like subjecting your granny to an assault course. Because they had been so short lived and unsuccessful, I’d always written them off, until last year I saw a photo of one gleaming in black. The rods and plates would have been red - what a picture ! And that ridiculous chimney….I was just captivated by the idea of this little old thing heading a smart new clerestory on ‘the mail’. The locos were also the first 4-4-0s acquired by the GN - so the direct ancestor of all the blue beauties that came later. Anyway, weeks of filing and cutting and measuring later, we have a free rolling chassis. Loads to do but this is a milestone. Doesn’t look much but this has taken a long time. The foundation is really the 4 oblongs of metal which are drilled together to make rods and frame blanks. Saw to shape, solder up and with baited breath stick the wheels on…so at least she should run. Careers across the floor like a Hot Wheels car so hopefully a good sign. Her plates as ‘Black Lion’ - as two words rather than the normal spelling, oddly, are on order and the design came through from the makers today. So I’d better get a move on..,, Edited November 17, 2021 by Galteemore 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Galteemore said: Having acquired a considerable amount of machinery to build ‘Enniskillen’, it seemed rude not to build another engine. The only question was what to build. I had long thought of a D19 Kerry bogie. However, I have also been doing much soul searching on my modelling future - more on that anon. Suffice to say I have ditched - or am attempting to - all my CIE stuff and going SLNC all out. But I still felt I should build a 4-4-0 - as @leslie10646and @jhb171achillknow, I was brought up to respect the GNRI and all its works! I have long had an affection for the GN locos, especially the smaller and more ancient types such as the Ps and PP. As many of you know, the SLNC had two, bought 2nd hand off the GNR. Expecting these two elderly ladies to cope with the vagaries of SL gradients and curves was cruel really - like subjecting your granny to an assault course. Because they had been so short lived and unsuccessful, I’d always written them off, until last year I saw a photo of one gleaming in black. The rods and plates would have been red - what a picture ! And that ridiculous chimney….I was just captivated by the idea of this little old thing heading a smart new clerestory on ‘the mail’. The locos were also the first 4-4-0s acquired by the GN - so the direct ancestor of all the blue beauties that came later. Anyway, weeks of filing and cutting and measuring later, we have a free rolling chassis. Loads to do but this is a milestone. Doesn’t look much but this has taken a long time. The foundation is really the 4 oblongs of metal which are drilled together to make rods and frame blanks. Saw to shape, solder up and with baited breath stick the wheels on…. An exclusively SLNC 7mm layout, now that’s going to be a challenge. I look forward to seeing how this complex enough looking 4-4-0 turns out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Galteemore said: Having acquired a considerable amount of machinery to build ‘Enniskillen’, it seemed rude not to build another engine. The only question was what to build. I had long thought of a D19 Kerry bogie. However, I have also been doing much soul searching on my modelling future - more on that anon. Suffice to say I have ditched - or am attempting to - all my CIE stuff and going SLNC all out. But I still felt I should build a 4-4-0 - as @leslie10646and @jhb171achillknow, I was brought up to respect the GNRI and all its works! I have long had an affection for the GN locos, especially the smaller and more ancient types such as the Ps and PP. As many of you know, the SLNC had two, bought 2nd hand off the GNR. Expecting these two elderly ladies to cope with the vagaries of SL gradients and curves was cruel really - like subjecting your granny to an assault course. Because they had been so short lived and unsuccessful, I’d always written them off, until last year I saw a photo of one gleaming in black. The rods and plates would have been red - what a picture ! And that ridiculous chimney….I was just captivated by the idea of this little old thing heading a smart new clerestory on ‘the mail’. The locos were also the first 4-4-0s acquired by the GN - so the direct ancestor of all the blue beauties that came later. Anyway, weeks of filing and cutting and measuring later, we have a free rolling chassis. Loads to do but this is a milestone. Doesn’t look much but this has taken a long time. The foundation is really the 4 oblongs of metal which are drilled together to make rods and frame blanks. Saw to shape, solder up and with baited breath stick the wheels on…. Respect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Galteemore said: Having acquired a considerable amount of machinery to build ‘Enniskillen’, it seemed rude not to build another engine. The only question was what to build. I had long thought of a D19 Kerry bogie. However, I have also been doing much soul searching on my modelling future - more on that anon. Suffice to say I have ditched - or am attempting to - all my CIE stuff and going SLNC all out. But I still felt I should build a 4-4-0 - as @leslie10646and @jhb171achillknow, I was brought up to respect the GNRI and all its works! I have long had an affection for the GN locos, especially the smaller and more ancient types such as the Ps and PP. As many of you know, the SLNC had two J class 4-4-0s, bought 2nd hand off the GNR. Expecting these two elderly ladies to cope with the vagaries of SL gradients and curves was cruel really - like subjecting your granny to an assault course. Because they had been so short lived and unsuccessful, I’d always written them off, until last year I saw a photo of one gleaming in black. The rods and plates would have been red - what a picture ! And that ridiculous chimney….I was just captivated by the idea of this little old thing heading a smart new clerestory on ‘the mail’. The locos were also the first 4-4-0s acquired by the GN - so the direct ancestor of all the blue beauties that came later. Anyway, weeks of filing and cutting and measuring later, we have a free rolling chassis. Loads to do but this is a milestone. Doesn’t look much but this has taken a long time. The foundation is really the 4 oblongs of metal which are drilled together to make rods and frame blanks. Saw to shape, solder up and with baited breath stick the wheels on…so at least she should run. Careers across the floor like a Hot Wheels car so hopefully a good sign. Her plates as ‘Black Lion’ - as two words rather than the normal spelling, oddly, are on order and the design came through from the makers today. So I’d better get a move on..,, Well done nothing like getting stuck in using traditional scratchbuilding techniques as opposed to overanlysing the whole business and getting no where. Will she be Blacklion as Blacklion or after the re-build with Glencar's boiler and superstructure? The North Wales Narrow Gauge did much the same thing re-building the single Fairlies Snowdon Ranger & Moel Tryfan into one usable loco during WW1 when Moel Tryfan retained her identity despite receiving Snowdon Ranger's chassis/power bogie. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Splendid prototype and that chimney certainly is a statement! Having built Enniskillen, shouldn't think there is anything too scary on this loco and with at least 1000 less rivets to do, less tedious too. So satisfying to have a rolling chassis - the rest is just cosmetic now (!). Will definitely look forward to seeing the model develop and seem to remember the Sligo also had a couple of GNRI 0-6-0s too, not to mention the Garrett that never was... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Mayner said: ............. as opposed to overanlysing the whole business and getting no where. I think you've managed to sum my whole modelling life in a line there! 9 hours ago, Galteemore said: going SLNC all out. Ah! the true way, pure and unblemished! I admire your focus, I would always be tempted by other lines. Out of interest have you managed to source some drawings or are you working from photos? Black Lion is look great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Thanks everyone. I’m prone to over analysis myself. In fact sometimes modelling seems like some kind of esoteric ceremony requiring all kinds of elaborate mental preparations before anything gets done! I have to say that having this forum is a great help in keeping me focused on producing work….. I think it will be the pastiche version of Blacklion, John, as the images mostly date after 1928. And yes, David, there’s lots to build - would be nice to find more evidence on the 0-6-2Ts too…. There’s a drawing - a basic one - in Norman Johnston’s GNR loco book, Angus. It’s roughly to scale, having checked out key dimensions. Having played around with a scale ruler and calculator, I have had it blown up to some odd percentage by a local copy shop and the result is a 7mm drawing giving key placements for wheels etc. You can see it in photos above. But photo analysis will be critical and Alan O’Rourke has been helpful here. Having been brought up with a wealth of Irish railway books, I knew that a UG was like a U, an SG like an S and so on. Perhaps a JT might be like a J….analysis of Norman’s book confirmed this suspicion, so I cheekily asked Roger Crombleholme if he’d let me see a JT drawing from his kit when I ordered stuff recently. This he kindly did, and we have a front elevation of cab and smokebox as a result. The cab isn’t exactly the same, but the roof profile is very similar, so that’s a huge help. Edited November 18, 2021 by Galteemore 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMCE Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Galteemore said: Careers across the floor like a Hot Wheels Something very satisfying about a coupled loco rolling well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 (edited) Well that’s 3 months work finished. I have been working on a commission for the new owner of Rosses Point. An 1890s MGWR branch train was ordered so that’s what he got! Alphagraphix kits suitably backdated. Delivered tonight and he seems happy, which made me happy. The nameplate is temporary until the correct ‘Robin’ ones arrive. Hopefully we’ll pass the @jhb171achilllivery test … Edited April 8 by Galteemore 11 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 MIGHTY stuff! Very well done! Pure Achill line.....................! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Fabulous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Stunning work! The entire train, loco and carriages, looks beautiful. Jealous? Moi? Cheers, Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMCE Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Fantastic work Sir. Looks excellent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) As in many other areas, the SLNC ploughed its own furrow in the area of train control. Block and staff instruments were kept in the station house, not the signal cabin as other railways did. I purchased a Peco signal box interior kit recently, and as I can’t prototypically use the block stuff they provide in an SLNC cabin, thought it should go in an authentic location! As part of my station build, the Peco machines (which are not quite correct but beggars …..etc etc ) has been painted up and installed in the station office….it will be invisible in the gloom when the roof goes on but I’ll know it’s there ! The green cabinet is, of course, for secure storage of the tickets that were issued in lieu of the train staff. The left hand instruments are Belcoo-Florencecourt, right hand Florencecourt to Enniskillen. Edited May 8 by Galteemore 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Works beautifully through the windows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Splendid! Perhaps an interior light to show off your work, perhaps not too bright as would befit a gas mantle? Cheers Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 Thanks Mark - I won’t deny I’m tempted by a MERG gaslamp twinkler for the station and signal cabin…., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I've got LEDs in the trainshed and locoshed on Fintonagh, which give a nice low level light. Unfortunately, no idea what type they are and pretty much impossible to access now... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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