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Popeye, believe it or not you've done exactly the job I was thinking about! (Great minds think alike?)..

Now, I am doing it for certain, and hoping it turns out half as good as yours! This era is currently very neglected despite being arguably the mos interesting and varied in Irish railway history.

If you take the bow-ended style, used commonly in Britain but ONLY by the WLWR here, and look at Ratio kits, if you take their brake third, keep the curved end, and splice on two compartments from a full passenger coach, you've a very nice WLWR brake third which lasted until - I think - about 1955. 

Somebody here joined two Hornby "Thomas" coaches a while back to make a vaguely GSWR vehicle. It looked amazing - I was thinking of that too.

I have a list somewhere of potentially Irish conversions of British wooden bodies stock - must look it up. But congratulations on that one - it looks amazing!

Final thought - given the window profile and panelling, with a slightly higher arc roof, you'd get a very good DSER coach. There were few, however, in traffic after 1950.

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Looks pretty darned good to me. I have limited prototype knowledge of these coaches, but they certainly look the part. Ratio kits must hold the record for being converted into something else and it just goes to show what can be achieved, with a bit of care and skill.

 Lovely job 

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It's probably worth posting a pile of details relating to the history and development of, at the very least, the sort of wooden stock built between 1880 and 1925, and still seen in traffic well into the 1960s, and some cases '70s.

I don't think I've too much to do today, so I'll put something together later if it's likely to be of interest.

The last six wheeled vehicles in use were last used in 1963, though not technically withdrawn until a year later. The last gas lit and / or non-corridor stock in use was withdrawn in 1974; coincidentally by both NIR and CIE in the same year - therefore, most if the VERY last old wooden beasts managed to overlap "Supertrains" by two years.

CIEs last were old GSWR veterans, some of former suburban origin, some main line. NIR's last were of GNR and NCC origin - mostly the latter.

NIR held onto a couple of elderly vehicles even longer, as they had no logo-hauled stock to speak of other than the Enterprise.

GNR brake third 114, now a rotting mush at Whitehead, was the last GNR coach in their iconic brown livery. It was never repainted green when it entered CIE ownership, being repainted directly into black'n'tan in 1967. Ex NCC third 526 and ex GNR K15 727 were the very last wooden carriages of any sort in passenger traffic - both surviving, miraculously, as railcar intermediates into the EIGHTIES!  526, in maroon and light grey, ended its days as an MED intermediate. What a contrast with the noisy, fume-filled tin cans either side of it, with deep wooden-framed red upholstery and a very comfortable ride! I last travelled in it, I think, in 1981.

727 ended its days in the modern maroon and blue as an intermediate in a 70 class set. It was taken to Whitehead for preservation, but along with sister GNR coach 595 (a brake standard withdrawn by NIR in 1974) a combination of north Antrim weather (the RPSI had NO carriage shed at all then!), poor quality wood (built in war years) and lack of cover, both rotted and fell to bits before the Society could do anything with them.

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On 05/01/2018 at 10:25 PM, popeye said:


This coach was built to be a GSWR look a like.

The ends were rounded at the bottom so this was cut off and a new piece added in.







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Lovely work as always Popeye.

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