Warbonnet Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Where are our Manors? It is a question that has been coming up in recent weeks. We would like to apologise for the delay in bringing this long overdue update to you. It certainly has been too long coming. As you can imagine, things in manufacturing have not been plain sailing the past 12 months, and these supply chain issues have hit our Manor timeline more than we wanted. However, after two months of teaser shots of new engineering prototypes from the factory, our first decorated samples have arrived. They have been worth the wait! We received the first two of our decorated samples last week, which consisted of 7812 'Earlestroke Manor' in BR lined green livery with late BR crest, and 7808 'Cookham Manor', one of the locomotives we surveyed extensively and scanned, in GWR Shirtbutton livery. Decorated samples are a significant milestone ahead of full production, where we assess the liveries as well as iron out the remaining kinks before full production commences. While the first livery samples of these locomotives do look very nice indeed, we have identified areas that require further improvement, such as: Copper chimney is too red and top should be copper as well Firebox coal will be a more realistic colour when flicker is off The coal load will be further refined and receive greater finesse Nameplates will be fully etched and fitted, with etched number plates provided in the detailing pack. Further polishing of the diecast body to remove any seam remnants locomotive numbers are slightly too large and will be corrected Orientation of our lamp brackets Adjustment to front coupler to ensure it can be stowed on the hook These improvements will now be fed back to the factory and implemented ahead of full production. As these are minor tweaks and improvements it means that production will commence very shortly, with a delivery date of Q2 2022 now slated. We apologise for this delay, but with supply chain issues hitting production lines hard in 2021, as well as the pandemic, not to mention our striving to make the very best steam locomotive we can, we feel that this slight delay will be fully justified in the final model. In the new year we will bring you pictures of the other livery samples, including BR black and other GWR flavours, as well as video of these beauties in action, featuring the custom DCC sound project too. Excited? We certainly are! Pre-order your Manor from your local Accurascale stockist, or direct by clicking here! View the full article 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 A thing of beauty so it is! Congratulations. You're just going from strength to strength with every release. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 That Cab is just lovely and I like the Satin Finish too. Looks very very nice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Roll on some Irish Steam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, BosKonay said: Roll on some Irish Steam! Any hints.....other than that one The balance will be worse for wear either way..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, GSR 800 said: Any hints.....other than that one The balance will be worse for wear either way..... God no, we never give anything away! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northroader Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The firebox top don’t look right in those pictures 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Northroader said: The firebox top don’t look right in those pictures Really? In what way? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I think it's the wrong shade of excellent . Seriously though, you shouldn't make a comment like that without further describing the alleged fault in detail. That's unfair, like lobbing a hand grenade into the thread and walking away. If something is genuinely off we know the guys would have it fixed if at all possible. They'd much rather catch a genuine problem now than produce something sub optimal later. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 We genuinely love nit picking, fault finding, new research popping up etc, as it allows us to improve the model. It's surprising how many online moans there are such as 'where is my X model' when we KNOW that person hasn't even ordered one, or those who simply say 'X is wrong' without context or data. Neither can we do much about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 I guess it just seems odd when it's not backed up. We have shown it to experts on all things GWR, published it online on RMWeb, FB etc and compared it to our 3D scan and all seem to agree the shape is spot on so not sure what we're missing. A rival product has been commented on as having an issue in this area, so possibly therein lies some confusion? Either way, it would be good to have some context so we can check and make sure it's not something we're missing. As @BosKonay says, we like it so we can check and improve if the feedback is correct. Cheers! Fran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Really? In what way? I'd reckon it just the way it slopes upwards in the pic of the model, like the real deal, the qtr view angle accentuates it. there is always a 2nd hand example in Hattons to plumb for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warbonnet Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Georgeconna said: I'd reckon it just the way it slopes upwards in the pic of the model, like the real deal, the qtr view angle accentuates it Yep, as per our model and checks out on the scan. There is light reflecting on the top in the above pic which might throw the eye a little but when compared to the scan is spot on. Cheers! Fran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Some things just 'look wrong'. I think the real Manors look 'wrong'. Like biplanes with the top wing behind the bottom one. As wrong as going to a cinema in daylight. It does look correctly 'wrong', though. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 tempted myself, It would keep my City of Truro company! Sush!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 84C Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Guy's I think it looks brilliant! and that comment comes from somebody who in his yoof chucked, with great skill!, a few tons of coal in quite a few of em! The copper chimney cap looks super fine on my pc! and I thought the copper only went over the lip for about 2/3" not right to the top. I also did professional engine polishing! The vaccum brake handle in the cab should be to the right for running and left to apply. Can we not have a very fine chain from the firedoor handle to the peg under the flap so minime can flick it up when firing? And the boiler water gauge really really needs a page three girl, Daily Mirror/Sun, behind the gauge glass. That would be perfection, we all did it. You know it makes sense. Maybe a little un pc for modern woke modellers? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Looks fabulous unfortunately I only do Irish but hopefully this is giving you practice at doing 4-6-0 locomotives...................................... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 20/12/2021 at 12:35 PM, BosKonay said: Roll on some Irish Steam! What's all this then??? On 20/12/2021 at 2:17 PM, Warbonnet said: God no, we never give anything away! Except on Black Friday, you mean... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northroader Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Really? In what way? The firebox does taper, sides and top, but the top looks as if it has a pronounced slant backwards, more pronounced than the real item, which isn’t too far off being flat. Is the front too high or the back too low, or some of both? I’m sure the model must have been made from the correct drawings, but the photos give an unfortunate appearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Do see what you mean Northroader - and you do have a track record of actually scratchbuilding fine locos so you’re not the average carping naysayer! I think the camera angle indeed has much to do with it. This view shows a slope but it doesn’t look ‘right’…looks like the hump on a Sopwith Camel…….just proves the inadequacy of Swindon design…..;) Crewe wins over Swindon every time! Edited December 21, 2021 by Galteemore 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Great class of loco. Always looked at home on the SVR. Ideal for a preserved railway of its size. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northroader Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 That’s an interesting picture, it does show these engines did have a “best side”, something I hadn’t appreciated before. You’re very kind with your comments, David, but if you put my bodges in front of a well lit studio camera like these Manors have been, the howls of derision would be many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Broithe said: Some things just 'look wrong'. I think the real Manors look 'wrong'. Like biplanes with the top wing behind the bottom one. As wrong as going to a cinema in daylight. It does look correctly 'wrong', though. ah now the Staggerwing is a beauty! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Now THAT is a beauty (the Manor, not the plane....) Great idea to get a narrow gauge one perfected first, before the GNR(I) S class announcement in 2022...... Or maybe a Q class...... in preserved livery....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Cundick Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Galteemore said: Do see what you mean Northroader - and you do have a track record of actually scratchbuilding fine locos so you’re not the average carping naysayer! I think the camera angle indeed has much to do with it. This view shows a slope but it doesn’t look ‘right’…looks like the hump on a Sopwith Camel…….just proves the inadequacy of Swindon design…..;) Crewe wins over Swindon every time! Best we don't mention the Crewe built Westerns which had to rebuilt at Swindon before entering service,Andy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Andy Cundick said: Best we don't mention the Crewe built Westerns which had to rebuilt at Swindon before entering service,Andy. When I say, Crewe, Andy, I strictly draw the cut off line at 1923 - it’s all dead to me after that ! Edited December 21, 2021 by Galteemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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