LIMA Murphy Models

[Train model]

Talkin about me or the models Bosko

 

You are not wonderful Dave

[WRENNEIRE]

Hornby entered the Irish market in the late 70's, some months after Lima

Their first product was this set.

CIE Local Goods set

R792

O-4-0 Loco. 4 wagons and track

They offered a discount on the controller when you produced the flyer attached to the set

 

The 3 " Irish " wagons are very collectable as they were only produced with this set

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[WRENNEIRE]

Pic of the 3 wagons

Top is a SLNC 7 plank

Centre is a CIE Insulated Container

And bottom is a CIE 7 plank

Cool or what!

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[Warbonnet]

Nice one Dave. The picture of the tanker on the box is the Hornby TTA tanker which would be longer than the container wagon and I reckon it wouldn't fit into that space. Maybe a change at the factory at the last minute or there is a different variation of the set out there? Hornby did have variations of wagons in the set compared to box art on their British sets...

[Railer]

Would the tanker have gone in the bottom left space though and the wagon to the right of the loco in the box is the error, the CIE 7 plank should be in that spot maybe.

[Warbonnet]

Would the tanker have gone in the bottom left space though and the wagon to the right of the loco in the box is the error, the CIE 7 plank should be in that spot maybe.

 

Ah yes, well spotted! The tanker has the same chassis as the insulated container van, so if that fits in that slot then so would the tanker!

[WRENNEIRE]

I will post a proper pic later when I can find the bleedin thing, have found nearly everything except the Freight set!

[WRENNEIRE]

Updated pics on previous post

Box rear

 

And side

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[burnthebox]

Contents maybe correct, ? or maybe the box is wrong ?

[WRENNEIRE]

Back in your wheelchair son

Box is correct

Contents are correct

Try and stay with the programme!

[WRENNEIRE]

Hornby's next set was their famous Slainte Express Set

Released in 1980

 

R383

 

 

 

 

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[Weshty]

Wow. Instant flashback to Noonan's Toystore in Charleville. Deadly buzz.

Any idea what it originally sold for Dave? I'm guessing £35-40?

 

Here's a 1979 Hornby ad.

Sets from £17.95-£75.00, p. Damn expensive in today's terms (£117-487) or up to €600!!

Edited February 28, 2014 by Weshty

[WRENNEIRE]

This is from a sister set CIE Freight Set sold at the same time as the Slainte Express so I reckon they

would have been priced around the same

The price is in Stg but I think we were about the same parity back then?

 

 

 

 

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[minister_for_hardship]

Out of curiousity, the Slainte Express...did CIE even still use that name in the 1980's?

Thought they dropped all those named trains (incl. Failte/Seandun/Sairseal) and probably retained the Cu Na Mara name, in the Supertrain era.

[WRENNEIRE]

It was a Hornby name for the set as far as I know

[Weshty]

Good man Dave

 

£20 *6.5 (conversion)= £130 today so c.€160.

 

You can get tied up in knots finding the right equivalent punt rate for the respective year and then converting to euros.

I just use the current sterling labour value rate and then convert to euros.

 

The irish punt had parity with sterling until March 1979 when it joined the EMS. The punt rate dropped to stg£0.85 pretty quickly after that.

[WRENNEIRE]

I think we get the gig about the new rules lads,

Edited March 5, 2014 by WRENNEIRE

[burnthebox]

I think we get the gig about the new rules lads,

 

 

Amen to that

[WRENNEIRE]

Next Hornby Item is the CIE Hymek

R768

What can I say?

Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed

 

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[Warbonnet]

Were the hornby stuff commissioned like the Lima stuff Dave or was it Hornby themselves wanting to cater for us lot?

[Glenderg]

Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed

 

If only there were a device that could evenly print ink onto a print medium, the rarity would be less so. I hear a chap called Gutenberg is toying with some similar notion.

[WRENNEIRE]

Were the hornby stuff commissioned like the Lima stuff Dave or was it Hornby themselves wanting to cater for us lot?

Fran

Hornby saw what was happening with the Lima Irish stuff and they were not far behind with these sets and other boxed items. They did it themselves but only one issue of these items were made, they never re issued them

[WRENNEIRE]

Glenderg said:

WRENNEIRE said:

Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed

Quote

 

If only there were a device that could evenly print ink onto a print medium, the rarity would be less so. I hear a chap called Gutenberg is toying with some similar notion.

 

 

Jouef. who were only a couple of years behind Lima & Hornby in their Irish production used Tampo Printing which was a much better finish

Edited December 3, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[Warbonnet]

Fran

Hornby saw what was happening with the Lima Irish stuff and they were not far behind with these sets and other boxed items. They did it themselves but only one issue of these items were made, they never re issued them

 

Cheers Dave. Considering that the Hymeks looked like nothing we ever had and that there were no pressure vent Mark IIs on the Irish system at that time I'm not surprised. They'd have been better off doing the set in NIR!

[WRENNEIRE]

The Mk 2 coaches to go with the Hymek

R720 Open,

 

 

R721 BFK Brake

 

 

I currently do not have a box for my R721 Coach, willing to part with some of my Communion money if there is one knocking about out there.

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[WRENNEIRE]

Where to now troops?

Jouef did some bits that are actually worse than the Lima/Hornby stuff

Then there are the various kits made by M.I.R. Worsley Works, Studio Scale Models Branchlines etc

Answers on a €20 note please

[Kirley]

That’s easy, SSM, MTK, Q Kits, Worsley Works, Model Irish Railways, Provincial Wagons, in fact just look in your ‘Aladdin’s Cave’ of Irish related items and the answer is in front of you. You could always ask for pictures of made up kits from members rather than just showing unmade kits.

 

Thanks again for this invaluable thread, I have learned a lot from your postings, if fact it has become the definitive reference point for Irish Models.

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

Would be nice to see the kits.

[BosKonay]

A vote for the Mir range here!!!

[iarnrod]

MIR range gets my vote. Especially the wonderful drawings that used to appear on the boxes

[WRENNEIRE]

Almost 2000 views since I posted the question and I get 4 replies

I can see why Glenderg got the hump when he was posting in the RTR 20' Wagon Chassis thread

Say something people, it makes all the hard work worthwhile

Anyway this is just for me,

Small company in Holland called EFSI

They were approached by an Irish retailer at a trade show and produced a small range of Irish vehicles, somewhat similar to Lima with their Class 33 & Hornby with their Hymek

 

These 2 models are HO Gauge

 

40' Bell container with a Merc Cab

 

 

 

Bus Eireann Expressway

 

 

 

There are a few more models that I will post up later in the week

Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE

[patrick]

I agree with iarnrod and BosKonay. I would love to see the MIR range covered.

[Kirley]

With the MIR kits you would have the original white metal kits and then the upgraded ones which I'm sure you have both Dave.

[Warbonnet]

MIR kits as I said on Saturday! Or Leinster models if you want that promotion to super detective!

[Glenderg]

Haven't really much of an interest in the Lima stuff to be honest but I'd be really interested to see the original SSM brass kits you have, if you can gently peel back the tissue paper and whatever other "home brew" bits you've picked up over the years of interest. More interesting the better I reckon. Keep up the good work chief.