Train model Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Talkin about me or the models Bosko You are not wonderful Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Hornby entered the Irish market in the late 70's, some months after Lima Their first product was this set. CIE Local Goods set R792 O-4-0 Loco. 4 wagons and track They offered a discount on the controller when you produced the flyer attached to the set The 3 " Irish " wagons are very collectable as they were only produced with this set Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Pic of the 3 wagons Top is a SLNC 7 plank Centre is a CIE Insulated Container And bottom is a CIE 7 plank Cool or what! Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Nice one Dave. The picture of the tanker on the box is the Hornby TTA tanker which would be longer than the container wagon and I reckon it wouldn't fit into that space. Maybe a change at the factory at the last minute or there is a different variation of the set out there? Hornby did have variations of wagons in the set compared to box art on their British sets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Would the tanker have gone in the bottom left space though and the wagon to the right of the loco in the box is the error, the CIE 7 plank should be in that spot maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Would the tanker have gone in the bottom left space though and the wagon to the right of the loco in the box is the error, the CIE 7 plank should be in that spot maybe. Ah yes, well spotted! The tanker has the same chassis as the insulated container van, so if that fits in that slot then so would the tanker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 I will post a proper pic later when I can find the bleedin thing, have found nearly everything except the Freight set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Updated pics on previous post Box rear And side Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Contents maybe correct, ? or maybe the box is wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Back in your wheelchair son Box is correct Contents are correct Try and stay with the programme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Hornby's next set was their famous Slainte Express Set Released in 1980 R383 Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Wow. Instant flashback to Noonan's Toystore in Charleville. Deadly buzz. Any idea what it originally sold for Dave? I'm guessing £35-40? Here's a 1979 Hornby ad. Sets from £17.95-£75.00, p. Damn expensive in today's terms (£117-487) or up to €600!! Edited February 28, 2014 by Weshty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) This is from a sister set CIE Freight Set sold at the same time as the Slainte Express so I reckon they would have been priced around the same The price is in Stg but I think we were about the same parity back then? Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Out of curiousity, the Slainte Express...did CIE even still use that name in the 1980's? Thought they dropped all those named trains (incl. Failte/Seandun/Sairseal) and probably retained the Cu Na Mara name, in the Supertrain era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 It was a Hornby name for the set as far as I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Good man Dave £20 *6.5 (conversion)= £130 today so c.€160. You can get tied up in knots finding the right equivalent punt rate for the respective year and then converting to euros. I just use the current sterling labour value rate and then convert to euros. The irish punt had parity with sterling until March 1979 when it joined the EMS. The punt rate dropped to stg£0.85 pretty quickly after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) I think we get the gig about the new rules lads, Edited March 5, 2014 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think we get the gig about the new rules lads, Amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Next Hornby Item is the CIE Hymek R768 What can I say? Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Were the hornby stuff commissioned like the Lima stuff Dave or was it Hornby themselves wanting to cater for us lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed If only there were a device that could evenly print ink onto a print medium, the rarity would be less so. I hear a chap called Gutenberg is toying with some similar notion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Were the hornby stuff commissioned like the Lima stuff Dave or was it Hornby themselves wanting to cater for us lot? Fran Hornby saw what was happening with the Lima Irish stuff and they were not far behind with these sets and other boxed items. They did it themselves but only one issue of these items were made, they never re issued them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Glenderg said: WRENNEIRE said: Paper CIE roundel that drops off very easily so a model with both roundels is a rare beast indeed Quote If only there were a device that could evenly print ink onto a print medium, the rarity would be less so. I hear a chap called Gutenberg is toying with some similar notion. Jouef. who were only a couple of years behind Lima & Hornby in their Irish production used Tampo Printing which was a much better finish Edited December 3, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 FranHornby saw what was happening with the Lima Irish stuff and they were not far behind with these sets and other boxed items. They did it themselves but only one issue of these items were made, they never re issued them Cheers Dave. Considering that the Hymeks looked like nothing we ever had and that there were no pressure vent Mark IIs on the Irish system at that time I'm not surprised. They'd have been better off doing the set in NIR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) The Mk 2 coaches to go with the Hymek R720 Open, R721 BFK Brake I currently do not have a box for my R721 Coach, willing to part with some of my Communion money if there is one knocking about out there. Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Where to now troops? Jouef did some bits that are actually worse than the Lima/Hornby stuff Then there are the various kits made by M.I.R. Worsley Works, Studio Scale Models Branchlines etc Answers on a €20 note please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 That’s easy, SSM, MTK, Q Kits, Worsley Works, Model Irish Railways, Provincial Wagons, in fact just look in your ‘Aladdin’s Cave’ of Irish related items and the answer is in front of you. You could always ask for pictures of made up kits from members rather than just showing unmade kits. Thanks again for this invaluable thread, I have learned a lot from your postings, if fact it has become the definitive reference point for Irish Models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Would be nice to see the kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 A vote for the Mir range here!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iarnrod Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 MIR range gets my vote. Especially the wonderful drawings that used to appear on the boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Almost 2000 views since I posted the question and I get 4 replies I can see why Glenderg got the hump when he was posting in the RTR 20' Wagon Chassis thread Say something people, it makes all the hard work worthwhile Anyway this is just for me, Small company in Holland called EFSI They were approached by an Irish retailer at a trade show and produced a small range of Irish vehicles, somewhat similar to Lima with their Class 33 & Hornby with their Hymek These 2 models are HO Gauge 40' Bell container with a Merc Cab Bus Eireann Expressway There are a few more models that I will post up later in the week Edited November 28, 2017 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I agree with iarnrod and BosKonay. I would love to see the MIR range covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 With the MIR kits you would have the original white metal kits and then the upgraded ones which I'm sure you have both Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 MIR kits as I said on Saturday! Or Leinster models if you want that promotion to super detective! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Haven't really much of an interest in the Lima stuff to be honest but I'd be really interested to see the original SSM brass kits you have, if you can gently peel back the tissue paper and whatever other "home brew" bits you've picked up over the years of interest. More interesting the better I reckon. Keep up the good work chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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