Barl Posted January 22 Posted January 22 2 hours ago, BosKonay said: 'Duplication of lines' isn't something that has to be worried about in Irish outline, even if Paddy is still promising Mark 3's and so are we Has this been mentioned before or did I miss something? It would line up with the UK outline crossover I guess. Something that I don't think has been mentioned is how kit building - what was once the only option for Irish outline - has also increased in price compared to what it was before. Even taking kitbashing a basic Dapol plastic kit, they are now €12 in Marks. I think they were €8 the last time I bought one! That would mean a cost of roughly €20-25 per wagon (likely less if batch-building) for a representation of an Irish wagon by the time you include paint, glues, transfers etc., not to mention the time taken to complete them. While the cost of RTR appears high, in the grand scheme of things it's probably good value all things considered! 1 1
Warbonnet Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, Sea Breezer said: I don’t think it’s fair to say that. You said yourself: “If we did a new run of opens, and put the price up to 130 euro, you would then have a case.” The 2 runs of H-Vans saw a price jump from €89.99 to €129.95. I got 2 packs from the first “fitted” run of H-Vans. I have not bought any of the latest “unfittted” H-Vans because of the price. Now don’t get me wrong I really appreciate all IRM have done for the Irish modelling scene. I have spent many many weeks wages on IRM stuff and have zero regrets. I do appreciate the difficulties seen in the Irish market at the minute. I think that there has been a bit of an influx of the more niche type products lately, which perhaps is another factor to consider in the slow down in sales. I have bought every offering in the Bulleid range, even though that is not exactly my era. The Hunslets and Maroon Mk2’s are not on my list. They are just too niche for me. I will say that I would buy at least 4 C-Classes, and several packs of any 1980/1990’s era freight wagons such as bagged cement, barytes, double stack sugar beet, especially given they ran in block trains. Just trying to give honest feedback here as I really want to see IRM continue to revolutionise the Irish scene. Thanks You’re right, @Sea Breezer. Please accept my apologies, it’s been a long and busy week and I meant no offence. My point was referring to @BosKonay saying that they do need to stand on their feet a bit more, and while the price of €130 is nearer what they should be price wise, they are still subsidised in the grand ball that is IRM and Accurascale. It just shows what a bargain the rest of the Bulleid range truly was. I also appreciate the support that you and our customer base as a whole offer IRM with your wallets. We feel obligated to make the very best models we can to give you best value for your hard earned, and truly enjoy your down time and escapism in this wonderful hobby. Long may it all continue! All the best, Fran 8 2
mfjoc Posted January 22 Posted January 22 It's good to hear that IRM are not going to give up on the Irish market. Yes prices have gone up but I don't see that as the most important issue. I really don't want to be negative and am possibly straying into the area of business decision making but I think IRM may have chosen to produce models of the wrong prototypes and that this could be a factor in the current fall off in sales. The Hunslets are very nice but only three were built, they didn't last long and as far as I know never went south or west of Dublin, but at least there are matching coaches and wagons for them to haul. The 800's never left the Cork line (maybe one got to Limerick once?) were out of service by the early fifties apart from hauling a few Bullied open wagons around Thurles. There's nothing else RTR available that they ever hauled, certainly no matching coaches. The ICR's are iconic, if you want to model the current tramway that is Iarnrod Eireann they're perfect. All three are beautiful models and are for sale at very reasonable prices, so if you want a model to leave in the box, put on a shelf or run occasionally on a layout they are perfect. I do hope they sell well, but is an individual likely to buy more than one or two unless they are a collector? The A Class sold out very quickly and I would imagine thay very few customers bought only one. It looks like all the wagon and coaching stock produced so far have sold well, apart from the magnesite wagons which had to be heavily discounted to shift. Obviously an individual will buy more than one coach or wagon and the discount for multiple purchases is an incentive. On a more positive note the following are prototypes that I think would sell in multiple quantities that would provide a return on investment. The C class were long lived, went everywhere, were owned by both CIE and NIR and there's lots of matching rolling stock for all eras. AEC railcars were owned by CIE, GNR, UTA,and NIR and lasted from the fifties to the eighties (as push-pulls). The Park Royals can be used as intermediates. After 1972 no train of laminates, park royals or cravens would be complete without a GSV. A re-run of the A Class might also be considered. I am keeping my fingers crossed. 2 4
jhb171achill Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Oho; mention of “C”s - if there’s ever a chance of such things, I’m in for maybe half a dozen! (Silver’n’filth, green and black!) But meantime I’ve two Silverfox ones….. they do the job! 6 2
cheesy_peas Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Thankfully, they're Nordie things, my wallet is safe. For now!
Georgeconna Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 21/1/2026 at 6:54 PM, Warbonnet said: Cheers George, and you bring up an interesting point to be honest that must be shared with the wider community. It's a tough one to face, but with the amount of Irish goodies that have come out, particularly in the last 5 years, what is an absolutely tiny market is likely full to the brim now with models. We can see a big slow down in purchases, which despite the economy being in somewhat decent order, is understandable. The sad reality is that there is likely to be less and less offerings in Irish outline as a result if the trend is a continuous one. We have a lot to deliver this year, have paid out a huge amount of money to tool it over a British outline model (okay, Mark 2s are part of a wider accurascale range, but the other goodies we have coming are uniquely Irish) which would make us a much larger return on investment and be a much smaller risk. So, if it sells, great. But if everyone is full up, then our output will likely severely restrict going forwards. It's a harsh reality, and we hope there are still enough customers out there to enjoy these, but if there isn't we will need to cut cloth accordingly. Talking to some traders recently has also yielded similar feedback. As we say, if it's what you want, grab it. With the NIR stuff, if you want to see an 80 Class in the future, the decision to tool one is entirely dependent on the sales of the Hunslets and these coaches. We even have the sound recorded for it, but the tooling bill is huge! We'll do it if people can vote with their wallets on these first. Cheers! Fran It is Fran, I have similar amount of UK Coaches not to mind the wagons on top, daftness. Picking up things here and there it soon mounts up and will I ever get the my opus magnus done is the question given with the cost of the hobby escalating. Same for the plastic kits I have bought over the years, all add up. The 6x3 HOe layout I would say is topping €1000 notes and that's not including stock! The stream is costing about €80...crazy Its not a price thing for myself its practicality really. I get envious of the lad with the samller layouts like Arun Quay Keep up the good work! 1
ttc0169 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 21/1/2026 at 6:54 PM, Warbonnet said: “ if you want to see an 80 Class in the future, the decision to tool one is entirely dependent on the sales of the Hunslets and these coaches. We even have the sound recorded for it, but the tooling bill is huge! We'll do it if people can vote with their wallets on these first. Not too happy with the above statement, I already purchased the Intercity Mk2 NIR set to compliment my 110s,201 and future blue Hunslet which is on order, I won’t be buying the maroon Mk2s simply because I never seen them,and have no interest in them While I understand the very valid above points I feel to be held to ransom to buy this to get that in the future is a poor statement-quite a few of us have spent a fair few thousand euros on models over the last few years, I feel the ICR was the wrong decision for IRM,I’m actually sorry now I have purchased a three and four car set. With the amount of Cravens and future Park Royal coaches around the ideal choice would have been the BR and Dutch steam heating vans-which were go anywhere -North,South,East and West. The C class is another badly missing locomotive along with a rerun of some 001s (001 on Supertrain livery with the black roof would have been nice) A 2600 Arrow railcar in original,green and blue and current livery would have been a better choice than the ICR-again the two car with sound fitted and interior lights would sell well. Maybe give the Bullied chassis wagons a break now and concentrate on some of the above for the future, IRM has achieved a fair bit in ten years which I am thankful for-and here’s to a successful future. 2 4
Colin_McLeod Posted January 23 Posted January 23 @ttc0169 not everyone's wish list is the same. IRM have to make a judgement call on what to manufacture. 1 1
GSR 800 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) On 22/1/2026 at 8:05 PM, Warbonnet said: Future IRM projects will happen, just it's very possible they will be a lot less frequent than they are currently. As for reruns of Irish stuff, on popular things like A Classes, container flats etc, it's somewhat likely, but I can't ever see a rerun of Hunslets, 800s, etc. It's why they're all available now, so miss them, you miss out. If they don't sell, we can't fund the next IRM project. One has done rather well, the other could do with some help, but we're hopeful both will wash their face. I wonder which one it is? Personally, being one of the younger modellers here (mid 20s) I do find the current pace of releases to be somewhat overwhelming. I suppose some of that is down to delays on certain projects, meaning the land closer to others, and ofc IRM does have payment options that lessen the burden, but I digress. For me, with 800s and PRs landing in the same year as ICRs, Hunslets, maroon Mk2s, etc. The priority is going to be the models in my period of interest. If it were more spaced out, I'd be more inclined to buy one of them all. Ditto with the MM Dart + if it comes this year. I'm aware how mad it sounds to complain about the wealth of Irish models coming online in short order, something we never thought would happen, but it does seem to be supply outstripping demand rn. So a slowdown might give the market some breathing space to absorb the supply. I wonder what the comparison of tooling cost of railcars against locomotives and regular coaches? I've no real issue with the price increase tbh, as mentioned before, the prices are extremely good value against continental models, and are the most highly detailed ones you can get on the market. Edited January 24 by GSR 800 4
Ironroad Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Colin_McLeod said: @ttc0169 not everyone's wish list is the same. IRM have to make a judgement call on what to manufacture. I agree whole heartily with @ttc0169. Considering the acknowledged slowdown in sales of the items IRM have judged appropriate to produce, perhaps they should be listening to their customers. While doubtless our brethren in the north would appreciate a class 80, it is a very niche item for the rest of us. I think the only time they operated in service in the South was for a short time in the 1980's on the Connolly to Maynooth service. Yes the 80 represents another opportunity to take advantage of a crossover from the UK range but contributes further to an imbalance in the products being offered. All three liveries of the enterprise from 1970 to 1994 plus the Hunlets are already with us or in the pipeline. For the majority of us the AEC Railcars would make a lot more sense and that includes our northern friends. And for that matter the C class loco would have made more sense than the Hunslets. Bear in mind we already had 071 and 201 locos in NIR liveries to haul the already issued blue and grey and wasp liveried MK 2 enterprise coaches. I will buy the blue and crimson coaches but can think of models I would prefer to be spending this money on, and I don't like to think that this is contributing to another off the mark offering. Edited January 24 by Ironroad typo 4
Mayner Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I would expect that Accurascale/IRM would have a thorough understanding of the 'market' having successfully produced locos and stock for several years. In my experience sales of Irish outline items tends to breakdown 50/40% between the Republic of Ireland and the UK (incl Northern Ireland). In terms of the Hunslet/Enterprise sets, and to a greater degree the 800 Class and BR Class 89 electric Accurascale appears to be following a similar pattern to Hornby Dublo in the 50s and later British Trix in concentrating on the prestigious express passenger locos that may have an emotional appeal to collectors than a more workday loso like a baby Metrovick. Personally a Hunslet and maroon and blue Enterprise set or better still a blue Vs and rake of GN coaches satisfied the emptional appear as a result of childhood & teenage memories and the Class 89 certainly captured my imagination as a 30 something at a Bounds Green Open day during the late 80s. At the end of the day I decided to pass-go on a Hunslet & a 5 Coach Enterprise set as I already have too many rtr models between Irish & American outline models. I think Accurascale are correct in taking a more cautious approach to the development and introduction of new models following the rapid expansion of both the Accurascale and IRM ranges in recent years, particularly in the current level of instabliity (political and economic) on the world stage. While the risk of a retailer being left with unsold stock is lower than 20-30 years ago, the rapid expansion of British Outline rtr in the late 70s (Palitoy and Airfix entering the market) was followed by a long period of stagnation up to the early 90s-oversupply and the economic situation. I remember picking up new Mainline-Airfix-GMR locos and stock at reduced prices into the early 90s. Similarily Murphy Models carried a stick of unsold 071 locos and Craven coaches for several years, with a clearance sale immediately before the 2021? release of the B121s. Personally I think an 80 Class would be a better option for a rtr model than an AEC railcar set, both in terms of design and development costs and potential demand. An 80 Class set still exists allowing more a more accurate model to be produced than an AEC railcar set (I don't know if the sole remaining Push Pull control car survived) and being a MK2 design allows for use/modification of existing tooling. The 80 Class potentially appealing to people modelling NIR and CIE/IE from the 1970s to early 2000?. 80 Class occasionally operated excursions and specials south and west of Dublin and regularly operated Howth-Bray, Maynooth and Cork-Cobh suburban services during late 80s/early 90s era, besides filling in on Enterprise duties. AEC railcar set and intermediate coach (ideally 1953 Buffet or open) would have to be designed from scratch and require completly new tooling. Displaced from main line services and concentrated on Dublin Suburban services during late 60s before being modified into Push-Pull stock during early 70s withdrawn with the exception of a decrepit driving trailer and connector car for use on Bray-Greystones shuttle by 1984. Official information is misleading I have a large scale CIE/Park Royal drawing of an Irish AEC railcar on plate frame bogies similar to the GWR railcars. 5
mfjoc Posted January 24 Posted January 24 @Mayner You didn't mention that the GNR AEC railcars were almost identical to the CIE ones and some of these were painted in UTA and NIR liveries. Also many of the park royals were wired to run as intermediate coaches, The main missing coach would be a 26xx buffet car which ran on most railcar or loco hauled services from the 50's to the 80's but I'd say there's very little chance of one of them being produced. On balance I think you are right about the more popular appeal of the 80 Class over the AEC railcars as a lot more people are still around who remember them. I still think a C class or a GSV or both would outsell an 80 class. All of Murphy Models effort seems to be concentrated on the DART+ at the moment so it would be interesting if IRM were to leapfrog them and produce their own range which would have the advantage of crossover with the much larger UK market. 4
BosKonay Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, mfjoc said: @Mayner You didn't mention that the GNR AEC railcars were almost identical to the CIE ones and some of these were painted in UTA and NIR liveries. Also many of the park royals were wired to run as intermediate coaches, The main missing coach would be a 26xx buffet car which ran on most railcar or loco hauled services from the 50's to the 80's but I'd say there's very little chance of one of them being produced. On balance I think you are right about the more popular appeal of the 80 Class over the AEC railcars as a lot more people are still around who remember them. I still think a C class or a GSV or both would outsell an 80 class. All of Murphy Models effort seems to be concentrated on the DART+ at the moment so it would be interesting if IRM were to leapfrog them and produce their own range which would have the advantage of crossover with the much larger UK market. Everyone has their own wishlist and perception of ‘what will definitely sell a million units’ However we’ve hard data going nearly a decade now including retailing Murphy Models and we know for example that on an average run of anything irish between a third and a half of the run doesn’t get sold in Ireland at all The accurascale support and merge has also seen hundreds of ‘new’ UK customers venturing into Irish outline simply by realizing they can run them alongside their OO stock and it’s something ‘different’ The current situation is as much a result of some staggeringly slowed and delayed projects buffering up to on time projects and pushing on planned projects all at once. The unfortunate result is a gap in supply for a while followed by a glut. I’m happy to see lots of suggestions here that we have either tooled or CAD complete or research underway so rather than (slightly rudely) suggesting we should ‘listen to our customers’ perhaps remember we exist because we are customers who didn’t feel listened to We love the feedback and suggestions and really value them and the support but you can also trust we are doing the best we can with the resources and timelines we have to work with. As i said it’s a golden age of irish modeling. Onwards and upwards!
DJ Dangerous Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, BosKonay said: Everyone has their own wishlist and perception of ‘what will definitely sell a million units’ However we’ve hard data going nearly a decade now including retailing Murphy Models and we know for example that on an average run of anything irish between a third and a half of the run doesn’t get sold in Ireland at all The accurascale support and merge has also seen hundreds of ‘new’ UK customers venturing into Irish outline simply by realizing they can run them alongside their OO stock and it’s something ‘different’ The current situation is as much a result of some staggeringly slowed and delayed projects buffering up to on time projects and pushing on planned projects all at once. The unfortunate result is a gap in supply for a while followed by a glut. I’m happy to see lots of suggestions here that we have either tooled or CAD complete or research underway so rather than (slightly rudely) suggesting we should ‘listen to our customers’ perhaps remember we exist because we are customers who didn’t feel listened to We love the feedback and suggestions and really value them and the support but you can also trust we are doing the best we can with the resources and timelines we have to work with. As i said it’s a golden age of irish modeling. Onwards and upwards! It would be very hard to criticise IRM’s history of product launches. Given the market size, there has pretty much been something to please everybody. Whether 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s, 2020’s, or 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, there has been something to cater for almost every fetish. I don’t mind the order of the releases at all… Once we get an O Gauge C Class before I go pushing up daisies. 2 1
Horsetan Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 22/1/2026 at 10:57 PM, mfjoc said: ....I think IRM may have chosen to produce models of the wrong prototypes and that this could be a factor in the current fall off in sales. The Hunslets are very nice but only three were built, they didn't last long and as far as I know never went south or west of Dublin, but at least there are matching coaches and wagons for them to haul. The 800's never left the Cork line (maybe one got to Limerick once?) were out of service by the early fifties apart from hauling a few Bullied open wagons around Thurles. There's nothing else RTR available that they ever hauled, certainly no matching coaches. .... Unique prototypes and small classes of 10 or fewer aren't unfamiliar to the RTR manufacturers, and I don't think you can say that they should only produce items that existed en masse. In 1:76 scale, the UK market has (or will have) things like: - BR Std.8 Duke of Gloucester - CR Single no.123 - GWR 47xx - class of 9 + 1 new-build - LNER P2 (and Thompson rebuild A2/2) - class of 6 + 1 new-build - BR APT-E (and production APT class 370) - WR Hawksworth 15xx - class of 10 - BR Class 13 - class of 3 In 1:87, they've had (and still have) things like - DRG 61.001 (and the Henschel-Wegmann set) - DR 18.201 - DR 18.314 - DB Br.10 - class of 2 - DRG/DB Br.05 - class of 3 - DB Br.66 - class of 2 - SNCF 232U.1 Clearly there is a demand for these things, and it's fairly clear that they do sell, otherwise no RTR maker would have ever touched them. 1 1
BosKonay Posted January 24 Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Horsetan said: Unique prototypes and small classes of 10 or fewer aren't unfamiliar to the RTR manufacturers, and I don't think you can say that they should only produce items that existed en masse. The Class 89 is a class of 1 and has sold better than the A class...
Horsetan Posted January 24 Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, BosKonay said: The Class 89 is a class of 1 and has sold better than the A class... ...and there you have it. Quod erat demonstrandum. 1 1
Mol_PMB Posted January 24 Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, Horsetan said: ...and there you have it. Quod erat demonstrandum. And to go with the Park Royals… 3 1 1 2 2
Tractionman Posted January 24 Posted January 24 50 minutes ago, BosKonay said: The Class 89 is a class of 1 and has sold better than the A class... there's no accounting for taste! 1
Ironroad Posted January 24 Posted January 24 11 hours ago, Mayner said: The 80 Class potentially appealing to people modelling NIR and CIE/IE from the 1970s to early 2000?. 80 Class occasionally operated excursions and specials south and west of Dublin and regularly operated Howth-Bray, Maynooth and Cork-Cobh suburban services during late 80s/early 90s era, besides filling in on Enterprise duties. Hi John, I bow to your superior knowledge on railway operations in Ireland, however you state that the 80 class operated on the Howth to Bray service. I travelled daily between Howth Junction and later from Harmonstown to Tara St from 1981 to 1991 and never saw an 80 on that service or travelled in one. But I do remember seeing them at platform 7 in Connolly on the Maynooth service but that was for a very very short period of time. 1 hour ago, BosKonay said: The Class 89 is a class of 1 and has sold better than the A class... To be fair you are not comparing apples to apples 1
Colin_McLeod Posted January 24 Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, Ironroad said: To be fair you are not comparing apples to apples And there was me thinking the 89 was one of the 80 class lol Photo from Facebook 2 1
Mol_PMB Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: And there was me thinking the 89 was one of the 80 class lol Photo from Facebook Also, didn’t 112 nearly become 089 at one stage? 1
Ironroad Posted January 24 Posted January 24 35 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: And there was me thinking the 89 was one of the 80 class lol Photo from Facebook Looks like platform 7, any idea when this picture was taken?
jhb171achill Posted January 24 Posted January 24 6 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: And to go with the Park Royals… Now just look at this. The GNR dioesel still in navy blue, a green Park Royal, a silver laminate and a green ex-GSWR wooden-bodied bogie, probably dating fropm about 1915............... exactly the variety totally absent today! 4
leslie10646 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ironroad said: Hi John, I bow to your superior knowledge on railway operations in Ireland, however you state that the 80 class operated on the Howth to Bray service. I travelled daily between Howth Junction and later from Harmonstown to Tara St from 1981 to 1991 and never saw an 80 on that service or travelled in one. But I do remember seeing them at platform 7 in Connolly on the Maynooth service but that was for a very very short period of time. To be fair you are not comparing apples to apples Sorry @Ironroad, you would have missed these trains, as they weren't along your route! My memory was that IR had sets on lease for several years - the Journal showed that my ancient brain cells hadn't failed me - thank the Lord! From the index to the IRRS Journal giving a reference in Volume and Page. From 2 November 1987 until 25 November 1990, Class 80s were used by CIE on The Greystones Shuttle - namely sets 68, 69 and 86 initially. 80 class sets at Connolly 16/422 80-class set on Drumcondra Link Line 16/160A (back cover) 80 class set at Greystones 19/66,67 these are two colour photos of sets 80 class at Kilcoole 20/157 80 class DE set at Newcastle Co Wicklow 13/259 80 class No 69 on loan to CIE at Cobh 17/148 80 class No 86, near Leixlip 19/228 80 class No 89, at Malahide 20/418 80 class No 99 at Cobh 17/358 80 class No 99 at Malahide 18/283 what's Latin for IRRS Strikes Back? Edited January 25 by leslie10646 2
jhb171achill Posted January 25 Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, leslie10646 said: what's Latin for IRRS Strikes Back? IRRSuavem striketh backeth 2 2
Mayner Posted January 25 Posted January 25 11 hours ago, Ironroad said: Hi John, I bow to your superior knowledge on railway operations in Ireland, however you state that the 80 class operated on the Howth to Bray service. I travelled daily between Howth Junction and later from Harmonstown to Tara St from 1981 to 1991 and never saw an 80 on that service or travelled in one. But I do remember seeing them at platform 7 in Connolly on the Maynooth service but that was for a very very short period of time. My mistake ment the Bray-Greystones shuttle rather than Howth-Bray, travelled on an 80 Class on both Greystones shuttle and on a Cobh service during late 8s. There was also an 80 Class worked Sunday only Heuston-Dunlaoire service (intended for Mail Boat passengers) during the same period, possibly tied in with stock transfer between Bray and Inchacore or even Cork for servicing/maintenance, at the time I think IE had 3 80 Class sets on hire from NIR 3 1
Mayner Posted January 25 Posted January 25 19 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: And to go with the Park Royals… Somehow I doubt that 'the MAK" would sell in similar numbers to an A Class let alone to the Class 89 Avocet She certainly caught my imagination when I first saw her during the late 80s, by comparison the Class 90s introduced a year or so later were nicknamed "Skodas' by WCML drivers and maintenance staff. 1
NIRCLASS80 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 It’s one of those moments for IRM, disappointment for not producing enough, dissatisfaction for producing too much! I would image there’s a lot of people just getting things slightly more difficult at the present time with the costs of day to day essentials going up, plus many modellers having enough to satisfy. Plus the constant scare mongers on the main stream and social media platforms making some people reluctant to splash out on their hobbies. In North America there seems to be a lot of recent releases by the model railroad manufacturers ending up in bargain sections of shop websites relatively quickly, a process that usually took about 18 months to 2 years to happen. I am already buying too many Hunslets and I will purchase some coach packs but I will be sitting out the 800’s and ICR’s. 1
jhb171achill Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, NIRCLASS80 said: It’s one of those moments for IRM, disappointment for not producing enough, dissatisfaction for producing too much! I would image there’s a lot of people just getting things slightly more difficult at the present time with the costs of day to day essentials going up, plus many modellers having enough to satisfy. Plus the constant scare mongers on the main stream and social media platforms making some people reluctant to splash out on their hobbies. In North America there seems to be a lot of recent releases by the model railroad manufacturers ending up in bargain sections of shop websites relatively quickly, a process that usually took about 18 months to 2 years to happen. I am already buying too many Hunslets and I will purchase some coach packs but I will be sitting out the 800’s and ICR’s. And I’m the other way round! No interest in Hunslets but despite the fact that an 800 would never have gone anywhere near a 1955-65 remote west Kerry branch line (which is the basis of my layout), and that an ICR is way, way out of that time zone - they’re the ones I’d be going for! Of course, an AEC railcar and a few “C” class would have me fumbling for my wallet and seeking coins behind settee cushions in pretty short order! Edited January 25 by jhb171achill 3
NIRCLASS80 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: And I’m the other way round! No interest in Hunslets but despite the fact that an 800 would never have gone anywhere near a 1955-65 remote west Kerry branch line (which is the basis of my layout), and that an ICR is way, way out of that time zone - they’re the ones I’d be going for! Of course, an AEC railcar and a few “C” class would have me fumbling for my wallet and seeking coins behind settee cushions in pretty short order! NIR 80 Class and NIR MV’s would be my balance busters! 1
leslie10646 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 10 hours ago, Mayner said: My mistake ment the Bray-Greystones shuttle rather than Howth-Bray, travelled on an 80 Class on both Greystones shuttle and on a Cobh service during late 8s. There was also an 80 Class worked Sunday only Heuston-Dunlaoire service (intended for Mail Boat passengers) during the same period, possibly tied in with stock transfer between Bray and Inchacore or even Cork for servicing/maintenance, at the time I think IE had 3 80 Class sets on hire from NIR My dear @Mayner - read my post above (which involved a half hour's research - I TOLD YOU WHICH SETS THERE!!!!!! I never actually the Avocet, but it was indeed a pretty iconic piece of kit. I remember Modern Railways reported how it just took off up Shap with a heavy test train. One of the advantages of being middle aged before you lot were born is that this stuff was just part of the scene. Has someone mentioned that they were used on the Cobh branch as well - again see reference in my earlier post. 1
Mol_PMB Posted January 25 Posted January 25 I’d have 4 or 5 C class (silver, plain green, black with roundel, supertrain and NIR) a couple of pairs of AECs, and at least 1 80-class. Hoping the C class aren’t too far in the future as I have a layout that needs them! 4
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