Killucan2 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Anyone interested there is a new green B103 on flee bay good starting price and only one bid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 no....cab too flat and wrong buffers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Anyone interested there is a new green B103 on flee bay good starting price and only one bid ! Can't see that, where's the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Can't see that, where's the link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-CIE-Sulzer-B103-diesel-loco-pro-build-/201049364057?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2ecf79d659 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WT CLASS 2-6-4T No. 4 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The seller appears to be Silver Fox, John Hazleton, Stockport. Looks like it could go for more than the Silver Fox web site price, already £132 after 6 bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The seller appears to be Silver Fox, John Hazleton, Stockport. Looks like it could go for more than the Silver Fox web site price, already £132 after 6 bids. It wouldn't be the first time that an item of Irish stock sold for more on eBay than it could be bought from a supplier for..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel281 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The seller appears to be Silver Fox, John Hazleton, Stockport. Looks like it could go for more than the Silver Fox web site price, already £132 after 6 bids. Hi No. 4, I just don't get that: Do you have a link to Johns Website, where the B101 class locos are already available? I would really like to see one in black and tan, but I still don't find ANY B 101 on his site The one on ebay is the second one I see after the pictures of the silverish one here on the forum. Cheers Gerhard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WT CLASS 2-6-4T No. 4 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hi Gerhard, I didn't see a B101 on Johns website but the A and C class are priced at £148 for RTR models and they're very similar to the B class re time and materials and donor chassis. Cheers Walter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) If it was a kit built ssm sulzer I could understand why some one would pay big money but not on the silverfox offering. For £150 I'd expect at least working lights and accurate cab ends. Edited March 13, 2014 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 £271.66 plus postage:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 are you sure its £'s ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 are you sure its £'s ? Definitely Sterling. Absolutely ridiculous... the list price is £148 for the RTR version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Definitely Sterling. Absolutely ridiculous... the list price is £148 for the RTR version. I've seen twits bidding against each other on a vinyl copy of an album that is still available from the record labels own online shop, and paying over the odds for the pleasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunluce Castle Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 And that's why you do research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I've seen twits bidding against each other on a vinyl copy of an album that is still available from the record labels own online shop, and paying over the odds for the pleasure Yep, vinyl collectors are on a par... it pays to stop and do a quick Google search before clicking on 'bid' or 'buy it now'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Incredible! Maybe John should consider selling all the Sulzers on eBay like this, because it seems to me they are not going to sell well in general, for a number of reasons. Certainly not as well as the Metrovicks sold, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunslet 102 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 For those that missed the bargain green offering above,there is a black and tan version on ebay just now from the same seller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Here ya go : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201054332755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Nice paint job, that livery suits the loco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 No surprise after that sale price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 still cant warm to it - even in that livery. the orange livery might tempt me (as it seems to be the only livery that hides the flat cab front well).....but i doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josefstadt Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Love the product description on the ebay entry '... a bespoke model incorporating a precision resin cast body ...'. Precision body??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 still cant warm to it - even in that livery. the orange livery might tempt me (as it seems to be the only livery that hides the flat cab front well).....but i doubt it Sure look at the A class wrong cab but people still got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Love the product description on the ebay entry '... a bespoke model incorporating a precision resin cast body ...'. Precision body??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 [ATTACH=CONFIG]12439[/ATTACH] where did you get the pic of the mother-in-law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 G'man shem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sure look at the A class wrong cab but people still got them. They did, but things were very different back then. Even though it's not all that long ago, Irish modellers had very little available to them in the form of locomotives at that time. When you consider that the A class is a very popular and desirable locomotive, it's not surprising that so many bought one, or more, despite it's shortcomings. Since then, a lot has changed. Largely due to Murphy Models, but also because of other projects by others. Basically, the quality we've come to expect has risen dramatically. Plus, the amount of locomotives and rolling stock available to buy at the present time means that the average modeller can't afford all of it, and needs to be selective in what they purchase. So basically, anything that is deemed to be sub standard will be first to be ruled out of any buying decision, at least as far as I'm concerned...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 They did, but things were very different back then. Even though it's not all that long ago, Irish modellers had very little available to them in the form of locomotives at that time. When you consider that the A class is a very popular and desirable locomotive, it's not surprising that so many bought one, or more, despite it's shortcomings. Since then, a lot has changed. Largely due to Murphy Models, but also because of other projects by others. Basically, the quality we've come to expect has risen dramatically. Plus, the amount of locomotives and rolling stock available to buy at the present time means that the average modeller can't afford all of it, and needs to be selective in what they purchase. So basically, anything that is deemed to be sub standard will be first to be ruled out of any buying decision, at least as far as I'm concerned...... People are still buying them though. I'd kill for a top quality A Class and they're just about my favourite Irish loco along with the 071s but there was no way I was touching the Silverfox one. I'm sure a good one will eventually come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I agree with aclass. We all have repaints and 'not great' stuff in the cupboard that's now put to shame by the stuff that's now available. If you told me four years ago I'd have a protypical DeDietrich enterprise running around on a layout behind a sound chipped 201 I'd have laughed you out of the house! Never mind the rest of the Paddy stable, D&M models, and excellent looking small run freight stock.. While detailed, etc, my Silverfox locos tend to sit on shed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 While detailed, etc, my Silverfox locos tend to sit on shed now. steven, go on and let them loose! i bet you with all their faults -youre proud of them too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh I am :) They still get a run Will have to find time to double up their pulling power as per Kirleys great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 If it wasn't for the Silver Fox A class I wouldn't be modeling Irish Railways. When I started the railway I had practically no experience modifying or scratch building rolling stock and A class and 141/181 were the minimum requirements to effectively portray the era I wanted to model. My goal is to create a realistic plausible model railway which is fun to operate in a prototypical manner and striving to produce an A class up to the standard of Paddy Murphys GM's would not get me far down that road even if I had the ability to do so. At some stage the models will be upgraded, either with the SSM detail kit, when I am more confident in my ability to do a good job of it, or with a new model which will hopefully come on the market. For now when I view the layout in action I don't see a diesel model of questionable accuracy hauling a string of nice looking containers on underframes loosely modified to represent an Irish prototype all running on narrow gauge track. What I see is the Cork Waterford Bell liner travelling between Grange and Glenn More. I would never have started the layout if it was not for the Silver Fox A class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Well put Patrick! At the end of the day, it's waay better than either the BR Class33 or Hymek repaints from the 70s! You've got your layout up and running & it gives you pleasure to operate & 'watch the liner pass' - that's all that matters at the end of the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Oh I am :) They still get a run Will have to find time to double up their pulling power as per Kirleys great work! Stephen I've had a play about with the double motor system on DCC and the best decoder for running the 2 motors at the minute looks to be TCS. I've tried several brands of decoder and the TCS handels the 2 motors nicely. As for the Silver Fox A/C class yes its not exactly 100% but with the SSM detail kit and a little work you can have a fairly decent model of the A/C class until someone comes along with a 100% RTR model I'm quite happy with the SF version. Edited March 21, 2014 by Flying Scotsman 4472 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Well put Patrick! At the end of the day, it's waay better than either the BR Class33 or Hymek repaints from the 70s!You've got your layout up and running & it gives you pleasure to operate & 'watch the liner pass' - that's all that matters at the end of the day! Absolutely....... but going on that logic, why should Paddy Murphy and other model producers invest so much time, money and effort into producing models that are as close to perfect as possible? The Irish model scene has made enormous strides forward in recent years. That's why models like Silver Fox's new Sulzer won't sell in the numbers the Silver Fox A class did when it was released. (in my opinion, of course..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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