Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive

[jhb171achill]

On 14/7/2024 at 6:12 PM, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

Are they in the open corrugated or behind them on the next line?

I might be wrong but just curious.

Ah this is a wind up

They certainly LOOK like they are in them, all right.... and, while I could be completely wrong on this, I do have an idea that i've seen other pics of these types of older (smaller) containers inside open wagons. Must have a delve! My curiosity hath been suitably piqued; but I'm off to the Island of Man in the morning, where there doth be steam, so it'll not be for a few days..........

[jhb171achill]

12 hours ago, Mayner said:

"Centre cess" drainage with the drain in the centre of the 5' appears to have been commonly used in Ireland up to the 80s. The same arrangement was used in the cuttings on the Islandbridge Junction-North Wall line and on the Cork Line at Stacumny Bridge between Lucan Nth and Hazlehatch. (Cyril Fry H Stacpoole collection) 1961 photo of green B110 on an Up Waterford passenger Irish Railways in Colour a Second Glance" (Midland Publishing 1995

Practice probabably ceased with the introduction of mechanised track maintenance from the 1970s onwards, would be challenging to model!

 

 

Senior used it a lot on the GNR in the 1950s too.

 

[Patrick Davey]

Some epic shots in your recent posts Ernie, thanks a million for sharing.  The Warrenpoint shot is my fav!

[Mayner]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

They certainly LOOK like they are in them, all right.... and, while I could be completely wrong on this, I do have an idea that i've seen other pics of these types of older (smaller) containers inside open wagons. Must have a delve! My curiosity hath been suitably piqued; but I'm off to the Island of Man in the morning, where there doth be steam, so it'll not be for a few days..........

I think its more to do with Bachmann BR containers not fitting in Leslies Corrugated Opens rather than containers being carried in CIE open wagons. There are several photos of BR Containers in CIE/GSR 'Standard' wooden bodies opens, but hadm't seen any in corrugated apart from the Heuston Goods photo.

The strapping/hinge detail of the Bachmann containers is a bit heavy and I had to carve the raised detail off the containers to fit in both my and SSMs models of the "Standard Irish' Open Wagon.

[minister_for_hardship]

7 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

They certainly LOOK like they are in them, all right.... and, while I could be completely wrong on this, I do have an idea that i've seen other pics of these types of older (smaller) containers inside open wagons. Must have a delve! My curiosity hath been suitably piqued; but I'm off to the Island of Man in the morning, where there doth be steam, so it'll not be for a few days..........

A shortage of flats and a surplus of opens available? Should be lots of opens kicking around outside of beet season.

Edited August 1 by minister_for_hardship

[Irishswissernie]

I didn't realise that GMK took another photo of 1001 shunting at Heuston Goods. The containers both small and large were in the wagons.

I have also enlarged the view in the second upload.

[jhb171achill]

4 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

I didn't realise that GMK took another photo of 1001 shunting at Heuston Goods. The containers both small and large were in the wagons.

I have also enlarged the view in the second upload.

Nice - and a green “D” class with it!

[Niles]

4 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

I didn't realise that GMK took another photo of 1001 shunting at Heuston Goods. The containers both small and large were in the wagons.

I have also enlarged the view in the second upload.

Interesting that it's still numbered '1001' as late as 1961. 

[Irishswissernie]

Dublin Connolly184 ca 2001 j244.

GNRI 1956-09-14 Belturbet JT91 LN418.

GNRI 1957-06-05 Ballyhaise 107 +91 LN1005

 

[Irishswissernie]

CDRJC 1959-05-11 Donegal Railcar 19 Arriving JGD590735.

CDRJC 1959-05-09 Letterkenny R'car 16 Xing L&LSR trackbed JGD590726.

CIE 1950-CA Athlone 583.

Connolly 082 ca 2001.

 

Edited August 9 by Irishswissernie

[jhb171achill]

Would the one with 583 not be 1960 rather than 1950?  Wheel handle on wagon brake....

[Mayner]

On 1/8/2024 at 6:36 PM, Irishswissernie said:

I didn't realise that GMK took another photo of 1001 shunting at Heuston Goods. The containers both small and large were in the wagons.

I have also enlarged the view in the second upload.

Apart from CIE not building Flat Wagons specifically for container traffic until the early 60s (25201-25435 12T-20'-11'wb) preventing pilfering may have been a factor, container would have to be lifted out of the wagon to open the doors. 

Strangely the GNR had purpose built wagons for General container traffic similar in general outline to the BR Conflat wagons of the same era.

[Horsetan]

6 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

CDRJC 1959-05-11 Donegal Railcar 19 Arriving JGD590735.

 

That's an angle not often seen, especially that close to the home signals on both branches.

[airfixfan]

Love the Donegal Town photo. Stranorlar line to the left and Ballyshannon branch to the right. We have a model of this location in the Donegal Railway Heritage Centre

[Horsetan]

11 minutes ago, airfixfan said:

Love the Donegal Town photo. Stranorlar line to the left and Ballyshannon branch to the right. We have a model of this location in the Donegal Railway Heritage Centre

I think I last saw that model in December 2001

[Metrovik]

The Camerawork in the donegal photos is brilliant, especially considering it was shot on film with no such thing as auto-focus and captures a moving subject. It really shows just how much the landscape has changed. 

[Irishswissernie]

SLNCR 1957-09-21 Enniskillen Railcar 'B' 4.20pm from Sligo. 7.20pm mixed on right WACS950. I originally missed uploading this one because of the nasty scratch which I thought might have been a hair on the scanner.  I then forgot about it until today when  unfortunately it does turn out to be a fault on the film itself.

West Clare 1960-03-24 Lahinch F501 JGD600124.

UTA 1967-05-26 Belfast Queens Quay.

Mallow 166 ca 2001

 

[Irishswissernie]

GNRI 1963-05-29 nr Aghadavoyle JGD630718. 

GNRI 1962-05-19 Dundalk QGS 152 JGD620609.

Waterford 2001-10-12 128 j113.

 

[Irishswissernie]

A few more acquisitions this week.

EDITED I am told that this is also probably at Poyntzpass,where the people are, the siding for ballast wagons was installed later so probably also 9 September 1967. 186 was shunted here to let the train past. (Photo  5)

2nd one. I think this one is 9 Sept 1967 and at Poyntzpass on a Belfast service.

3rd one. CIE 1965-1967 Wexford South 2608 .

 Fouth one. My favourite and the Ken Cooper Original off E Bay. CB&SC 1953-08-03 Clonakilty Jc C7 37 on branch train KC

NIR 1967-09-09 Poyntzpass 186 SPL y042

 

Edited August 25 by Irishswissernie

[Westcorkrailway]

You’re right Ernie. That clonakilty junction photo is pretty significant. 

[airfixfan]

2nd photo is train for Belfast at Poyntzpass 

[Irishswissernie]

Bank Holiday bonus upload today. I was lucky at the Auction yesterday so should be approx 400 + slides /negs  in the pipeline.

CB&SC 1954-09-04 Drimoleague shed 470 KC

CIE 1959-ca Mullingar y003

C&L 1938- xx ca Ballinamore No 1 'Isabel' JDG

 

[GSR 800]

On 26/8/2024 at 8:38 AM, Irishswissernie said:

Bank Holiday bonus upload today. I was lucky at the Auction yesterday so should be approx 400 + slides /negs  in the pipeline.

CB&SC 1954-09-04 Drimoleague shed 470 KC

CIE 1959-ca Mullingar y003

C&L 1938- xx ca Ballinamore No 1 'Isabel' JDG

 

Always love a good Mullingar picture.

Plenty of freight in the yard!

 

[Irishswissernie]

CIE Ca 1965-67 Wexford North 2608.

CIE 1965-1967 Wexford South 2608 (1).

GMK033 CIE 1955-xx Dublin Heuston 2621. D171.

 

[Irishswissernie]

I have acquired 3 lots of Irish slides and negatives in a recent Auction and am busy sorting them out. One Lot is of 41 poor quality un-identified negatives but the subjects are of some interest and include Tralee & Dingle, West Clare, CDRJC and Lought Swilly images (plus some Ffestiniog , Isle of Man and Welshpool and Llanfair!) and are all CA 1950. The other  2 Lots are Irish slides one Lot being all Originals. The other of approx 470 slides was said to contain 150 odd Coulourail Duplicates but actually has over 250 with some duplicates over-written as originals by John Edgington whereas a large number are actually by other photographers where I already have the original Kodachrome slides. Duplicates are useless in my case as I won't use them on the Internet not having possession of the Copyright.

Being  somewhat peed off at first I have dumped the duplicates in a box but actually the remainder contain some interesting images and there actually are some John Edgington original Kodachromes amongst them.

Here are 6 featuring a trip on the Banteer-Newmarket branch with G601 in May 1958. CIE had tried to close the branch by then only open for Goods but after representations by the local Communities agree to retain a daily goods  until February 1963. I think there were some attempts to preserve the line but these failed.

An interesting prototype, you can get kits for the loco but I would be in the queue for a ready to run model or 2!

 1.) CIE 1958-05-xx Banteer, Newmarket Trip wkg. G601 yj129.

2.)  & 3.) CIE 1958-05 Kanturk G601 yj130

Views 4 to 6 are at Newmarket.

 

[GSR 800]

1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said:

I have acquired 3 lots of Irish slides and negatives in a recent Auction and am busy sorting them out. One Lot is of 41 poor quality un-identified negatives but the subjects are of some interest and include Tralee & Dingle, West Clare, CDRJC and Lought Swilly images (plus some Ffestiniog , Isle of Man and Welshpool and Llanfair!) and are all CA 1950. The other  2 Lots are Irish slides one Lot being all Originals. The other of approx 470 slides was said to contain 150 odd Coulourail Duplicates but actually has over 250 with some duplicates over-written as originals by John Edgington whereas a large number are actually by other photographers where I already have the original Kodachrome slides. Duplicates are useless in my case as I won't use them on the Internet not having possession of the Copyright.

Being  somewhat peed off at first I have dumped the duplicates in a box but actually the remainder contain some interesting images and there actually are some John Edgington original Kodachromes amongst them.

Here are 6 featuring a trip on the Banteer-Newmarket branch with G601 in May 1958. CIE had tried to close the branch by then only open for Goods but after representations by the local Communities agree to retain a daily goods  until February 1963. I think there were some attempts to preserve the line but these failed.

An interesting prototype, you can get kits for the loco but I would be in the queue for a ready to run model or 2!

 1.) CIE 1958-05-xx Banteer, Newmarket Trip wkg. G601 yj129.

2.)  & 3.) CIE 1958-05 Kanturk G601 yj130

Views 4 to 6 are at Newmarket.

 

Mayner previously mentioned that Anthony Burges described the MGWR branch to Cavan as a "mouldering branch line"

Such a description is surely apt here too with these wonderful photos.

 

Edited September 6 by GSR 800

[Westcorkrailway]

3 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

I have acquired 3 lots of Irish slides and negatives in a recent Auction and am busy sorting them out. One Lot is of 41 poor quality un-identified negatives but the subjects are of some interest and include Tralee & Dingle, West Clare, CDRJC and Lought Swilly images (plus some Ffestiniog , Isle of Man and Welshpool and Llanfair!) and are all CA 1950. The other  2 Lots are Irish slides one Lot being all Originals. The other of approx 470 slides was said to contain 150 odd Coulourail Duplicates but actually has over 250 with some duplicates over-written as originals by John Edgington whereas a large number are actually by other photographers where I already have the original Kodachrome slides. Duplicates are useless in my case as I won't use them on the Internet not having possession of the Copyright.

Being  somewhat peed off at first I have dumped the duplicates in a box but actually the remainder contain some interesting images and there actually are some John Edgington original Kodachromes amongst them.

Here are 6 featuring a trip on the Banteer-Newmarket branch with G601 in May 1958. CIE had tried to close the branch by then only open for Goods but after representations by the local Communities agree to retain a daily goods  until February 1963. I think there were some attempts to preserve the line but these failed.

An interesting prototype, you can get kits for the loco but I would be in the queue for a ready to run model or 2!

 1.) CIE 1958-05-xx Banteer, Newmarket Trip wkg. G601 yj129.

2.)  & 3.) CIE 1958-05 Kanturk G601 yj130

Views 4 to 6 are at Newmarket.

 

Unreal stuff Ernie 

[Andy Cundick]

Useful stuff there as Newmarket may well be the next 5'3" layout Andy

[Mayner]

42 minutes ago, Andy Cundick said:

Useful stuff there as Newmarket may well be the next 5'3" layout Andy

Newmarket make a nice model , compact track layout stone buildings, loco shed and wooded settings.

Kerry Bogie for motive power or possibly a Sentinel railcar?

[popeye]

This loco is on the Silver fox models website in ready to run and kit form, with a choice of liveries.

[Irishswissernie]

Worked on a few more images this afternoon. Tralee and Dingle Bogie van 39T's location was a puzzler but I reckon its on a spur off the line to the exchange yard just opposite to the present main line station.

T&D 1948-CA Tralee Exchange sidings opposite Main station. Bogie van 39T yj010

CB&SC 1968-06-xx Cork City Railway, Albert Quay Trip C209 yj126.

CB&SC 1958-05-xx Courtmacsherry C232 Excursion from Cork yj123. EDIT I need to do a bit more cleaning up on this one!

 

Edited September 6 by Irishswissernie

[jhb171achill]

On 24/8/2024 at 4:52 PM, airfixfan said:

2nd photo is train for Belfast at Poyntzpass 

And look at the elderly GSWR third in the middle of the train! What on earth was that doing on the "Enterprise"?

52 minutes ago, popeye said:

This loco is on the Silver fox models website in ready to run and kit form, with a choice of liveries.

Unfortunately, every single one of SF's liveries on those engines are wrong! (I believe he has actually discontinued that one, anyway).

[GSR 800]

58 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

And look at the elderly GSWR third in the middle of the train! What on earth was that doing on the "Enterprise"?

Enterprising, presumably.

[airfixfan]

County Donegal , Lough Swilly you have my attention!

[Andy Cundick]

5 hours ago, Mayner said:

Newmarket make a nice model , compact track layout stone buildings, loco shed and wooded settings.

Kerry Bogie for motive power or possibly a Sentinel railcar?

My thoughts exactly no Kerry bogie yet but plenty of J15's(can you have too many discuss)Though  would be hard pressed to justify any of the Bandon stock etc.The idea is to build the turntable and work from there Andy