071 Supertrain pictures

[WRENNEIRE]

Any good pics of Mk 2 Supertrain coaches?

Models or real?

[Broithe]

Any good pics of Mk 2 Supertrain coaches?

Models or real?

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[heirflick]

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ORANGE PAINT

 

Making things fast since 1962

[quick and dirty but you get the gist]

 

R.

 

lovely glenderg, but this we should all print out and have in our railway bunkers........

 

 

[heirflick]

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great find broithe. just looking at the price.....5p! those were the days when money was worth something:)

[ttc0169]

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1980 timetable=15p

 

 

1979 timetable=10p

[Warbonnet]

A's and Mark II's; dream combination!

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

 

 

 

 

[WRENNEIRE]

Sweet, Anto

Where are those pics from?

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

Dave they are from one of the books I have. If I get time later I will have a hunt for some more

[irishthump]

Another silly question...

 

After the Supertrain livery was introduced how long did the Black and Tan livery last for? Would it have taken a long time to repaint all the locos?

 

I would assume there were none by the time the 071s were introduced.

[ttc0169]

Another silly question...

 

After the Supertrain livery was introduced how long did the Black and Tan livery last for? Would it have taken a long time to repaint all the locos?

 

I would assume there were none by the time the 071s were introduced.

 

Not a silly question-but an interesting one....

 

According to the IRRS journal from February 1977,it states

All the 121 class were repainted into Supertrain/golden brown livery by October 1976,

Of the 141 class 17 out of 37 had been repainted with 10 out of 12 181 class repainted,B181 and B191 were left to be repainted,

I'm guessing that all of the 001 class had been repainted by 1977,and I'd say by the end of 1978 the remaining 141s would have been done,so they would have worked alongside the newly introduced 071s for a few months,

Hope this answers your question.

[irishthump]

Not a silly question-but an interesting one....

 

According to the IRRS journal from February 1977,it states

All the 121 class were repainted into Supertrain/golden brown livery by October 1976,

Of the 141 class 17 out of 37 had been repainted with 10 out of 12 181 class repainted,B181 and B191 were left to be repainted,

I'm guessing that all of the 001 class had been repainted by 1977,and I'd say by the end of 1978 the remaining 141s would have been done,so they would have worked alongside the newly introduced 071s for a few months,

Hope this answers your question.

 

That's just the info I was looking for, thanks. I just wanted to how prototypical it would be the the black and tan 141/181s running next to the 071.

[enniscorthyman]

The June 2008 IRRS journal No 166 has a good article on the MK 2D coaches

showing photos of their arrival in green undercoat and a trial train of two

141s in black and tan with the green mk2s in tow at Clondalkin.

It also shows wonderfull photos of expermental livery that was applied

at Inchicore with a overall red and two cream panals,not to mention a

all over navy blue with silver window frames,and the golden brown with

a white centre where the black went on the final choice.

Another suggestion on show was a Duck egg blue with a off

white panel between the doors.Another photo shows a black

roof and black all the way down to just below the windows where a

thin white stripe meets the golden brown.I persume these photos

were taken in 1972 priar to the rolling out in the super train livery

that was chosen.

[WRENNEIRE]

Quick update on the new 071 numbers

 

MM0071 Supertrain will now be MM0088

 

MM0072 Freight Livery will now be MM0071

 

MM0112 will not change

[RedRich]

Quick update on the new 071 numbers

 

MM0071 Supertrain will now be MM0088

 

MM0072 Freight Livery will now be MM0071

 

MM0112 will not change

 

Thanks for that Dave.

 

Rich,

[Railer]

Quick update on the new 071 numbers

 

MM0071 Supertrain will now be MM0088

 

MM0072 Freight Livery will now be MM0071

 

MM0112 will not change

 

I thought 082 was in the first batch and not 072?

[Garfield]

Yes... 088!

[heirflick]

tt and anto ...great pics! any more of the metro vics and the mk 2's?

Edited August 3, 2012 by Anthony

[The Train Man]

An update on 071 Class Number Changes and delivery dates. Please note the following changes:-

 

MM0071 becomes MM0088 (CIE Supertrain livery)

 

MM0072 becomes MM0071 (IE Blk/Sil livery)

 

The first 3 items due are CIE MM0088, IE Freight MM0082 & NIR MM0112. Late Oct.

The second 3 items are IE MM0077, IE MM0085(weathered), IE Freight MM0071. Early Dec.

The third tranche due Jan/Feb 2013, CIE MM0086sa, IR MM0080, IE(small logo) MM0078, IR MM0073(weathered).

 

For all those who have pre-ordered 071 in Supertrain livery from us, we will transfer these orders to 088 which now becomes the supertrain livery. We would ask customers who do not wish for this to contact us soonest: info@themodelshop.ie or 057 8621081.

Edited August 3, 2012 by The Train Man

[FrankS]

Hi Enniscorthyman,

Do you happen to know If it is possible to buy actual back numbers of the IRRS Journal. Any idea of an e-mail address ? I can't find anything on their website.

Thanx,

FrankS.

[Glenderg]

There are loads of IRRS Journals upstairs in Chapters, Parnell Street, but they are about a €10 each.

[FrankS]

Thanx, Glenderg, but I'm afraid Parnell Street, is a bit out of my way, and a bit of a walk from my nearest station ~ about 12, 563 miles

Cheers,

FrankS

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

tt and anto ...great pics! any more of the metro vics and the mk 2's?

 

 

 

Seamus if I get time over the next day or two I will have a look for you.

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

 

The first 3 items due are CIE MM0088, IE Freight MM0082 & NIR MM0112. Late Oct.

The second 3 items are IE MM0077, IE MM0085(weathered), IE Freight MM0071. Early Dec.

The third tranche due Jan/Feb 2013, CIE MM0086sa, IR MM0080, IE(small logo) MM0078, IR MM0073(weathered).

 

 

 

 

Seamus is this all the 071's to be released or are there more after Jan/Feb

[The Train Man]

Seamus is this all the 071's to be released or are there more after Jan/Feb

 

To the best of my knowledge that's the lot, but one never knows.....

[enniscorthyman]

Hi Enniscorthyman,

Do you happen to know If it is possible to buy actual back numbers of the IRRS Journal. Any idea of an e-mail address ? I can't find anything on their website.

Thanx,

FrankS.

Hi Frank,the IRRS premises at Hueston station would have

a large back issue of old journals.They meet on Tuesday nights

If you can make it,and also Cliften Flewit often has them on

railtours etc.I had posted up any interisting articules from journals

on the old site such as ones on the 121 and 141/181 locos

which gave a indept feature.I can repeat here if folks want them.

[aclass007]

Hi Frank,the IRRS premises at Hueston station would have

a large back issue of old journals.They meet on Tuesday nights

If you can make it,and also Cliften Flewit often has them on

railtours etc.I had posted up any interisting articules from journals

on the old site such as ones on the 121 and 141/181 locos

which gave a indept feature.I can repeat here if folks want them.

 

Yep, please do, or post a link to the old list of articles.....

[RedRich]

The IRRS Journals are invaluable for a lot of historical and prototypical info in all eras. Please post up some info when you can Eamonn as it is amazing reading.

 

Rich,

[islandbridgejct]

Frank,

Martin Bott Books, http://www.bottbooks.com/onlinebookshop/page.asp?tmplt=sys&wbpg=home, has an Irish Transport section and used to have a load of IRRS journals. He sells mail order and the service was good when I used it.

Hope that helps.

Alan

[heirflick]

 

yes please!

[Killucan2]

Did anyone notice the pic of 080 on the Murphy site?, look at the face and see can anyone spot the mistake???

Edited August 11, 2012 by Killucan2

[josefstadt]

The upper white line between the orange and black colours shouldn't go below the headlight. It should come down to the bottom corner of the headlight fitting on both sides. A touch of black paint would cure the problem.

[RedRich]

I know we have yet to see a for sale full production 071-111 yet but the IE logo on the bonnet of 077 is too large when compared to the prototype. There seems to be some orange paint bleed around the window frames on the cab side also. Easy enough to correct the paint bleed but a new IE logo could be tricky. Either way cracking models. I just hope the rigid 6 axle bogies won't cause to many headaches when converting to a wider gauge.

 

Rich,

[josefstadt]

If the logo is too large it is only marginally so. See this picture of 073 at Pearse from the 'Railfaneurope.net' site: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ie/diesel/071/dublin09.jpg. It could also be argued that the red stripe across the buffers is set marginally too high. But these are only quibbles when one considers the overall quality of the model.

[David]

Think he means the IE logo, not the IR one. The red on the buffer beam is a little on the high side alright. I wouldn't be all that bothered about the red and the logo but the white under the headlight is very noticable. And you can't just paint it black because the white lines coming to it are too low and would lead to nowhere.

 

Hope they sort it...