Goods Yard

[GNRi1959]

More of Omagh........

 

Edited October 2, 2019 by GNRi1959

[Patrick Davey]

Fantastic Tony!

[David Holman]

Fine work. Now, having weathered the building and scenics, presumably the wagons come next?!?

[GNRi1959]

David, I can tell that you have thrown your expert eye on the yard now for sure. Yes, you are correct. All the present stock will be weathered, especially those bright bread containers (as Provincial Wagons call them) or BU's (Bread Units, as the GNRi staff called them). The other thing I need to do is replace the back scene, I have a one piece scene ready to be fitted.

I also need to start thinking about a perspex front to prevent little fingers grappling with the wagons during exhibition or display. I have plans to either spray paint the surrounding fascia in GNRi Green and mount the GNRi crest somewhere too.

I don't really want to do much more to it otherwise it's overkill. I'm having to present  it in February at a venue in Omagh for a small gathering of locals with some sort of talk/photographic display - nothing confirmed just yet.

[RobertRoche]

Hi Tony, I 3D printed this crest earlier this year. It is a bit rough but it might interest you.

[GNRi1959]

Robert, thank you for your offer, it is appreciated. I actually have a copy of the original scanned GNRi Crest which was used on RPSI locos. It's a huge file and will provide me with the presentation  I need. Many thanks anyway.

Edited October 4, 2019 by GNRi1959

[GNRi1959]

[David Holman]

Have always liked the bread wagons and like pretty much everything else, wagons got very dirty, very quickly, so weathering will mean they blend in well with the overall scene.

 One thing I have noticed -  and photos are very good for this sort of proof reading, is there are a couple of places where the ground doesn't meet the bottom of the buildings, though am guessing that is already on the to do list!

 As for perspex edging, it is a personal thing, but over 30 years of exhibiting, is not something I've ever found necessary. Parents are pretty good at minding their children at shows and if inquisitive fingers do start exploring, a quiet word is all that is needed. If perspex is used, I think it is better to be full height, or most adults will find their view disturbed by the top edge. Mind you, I did once come very close to having a child vomit over the layout. Fortunately (?), he turned his head at the last moment and poor granny copped the whole lot instead. Not nice...

[GNRi1959]

David, points taken. I'll certainly look at the 'gap's between ground and buildings. I had deliberately kept them apart as I intended removing the buildings during transit, otherwise I would consider securing them with ground surface and grass/weeds.

The Stephensons bread units are now weathered to kill the bright blue colour and the inglis set are next.

Finally, your good friend Frank Kirkland is calling with me later this afternoon so he can report back to you on his visit to see the model. All the way from Derbyshire!

[banntry]

Top class modelling - well done

 

[GNRi1959]

[Patrick Davey]

Fantastic Tony!!! 

[Edo]

You are definitely getting up to Irish levels of muckiness there - can hear the squelching across the yard from here!

 

 

[GNRi1959]

I have started work on the water tower, gents toilet and shunters hut that were situated on the north end of omagh. They were situated on the passenger platform with access to the goods yard. This will bring this project build to an end almost. All I need to do is prepare the fascia and surround to allow safe display.

[Galteemore]

Great work Tony. Impressive work in bringing it all together. Modelling a real place brings certain challenges but you’ve really captured the look of Omagh ( I speak as one who spent much of his childhood poring over my dad’s 1960s Derry road photos and his collection of Irish railway books...

[KMCE]

Very nice details there, Tony.

This layout has really matured into a show piece.  I really like the small details such as the spare crossing vee in the yard, etc.

 

Well done.

Ken

[GNRi1959]

Ken, 

Thanks for your comment.

The crossing vee was actually removed from the junction of the Bundoran line when it was closed in 1957. It actually was left in storage outside the South Cabin but I thought it would add to the scene in the Goods Yard. 

[David Holman]

Not just any old crossing vee! Lovely touch and authentic details like this really bring a model to life.

[GNRi1959]

Progress on water tower build....

Can anyone suggest what type of detailing would be required inside the actual tank?

Since it will be within the viewers eye, I need to detail it with something. Any ideas?

Edited October 14, 2019 by GNRi1959

[RobertRoche]

1 hour ago, GNRi1959 said:

Can anyone suggest what type of detailing would be required inside the actual tank?

I've looked before and I didn't find much. I'd go for murky and dark like this one in Moyasta. Also have a read fo this US site http://gshsignal.blogspot.com/2011/07/whats-on-inside-of-those-water-tanks.html

[murrayec]

Tony

1 sqm of water weighs 1 tone approx, which puts some pressure on the sides especially at the top, so I reckon it might have bracing on the inside- angle iron verticals and horizontals with angle iron diagonals in this kind of fashion at a guess;-

Note the diagonals go from inside bottom to outside top!

Eoin

 

 

[WRENNEIRE]

42 minutes ago, RobertRoche said:

I've looked before and I didn't find much. I'd go for murky and dark like this one in Moyasta. Also have a read fo this US site http://gshsignal.blogspot.com/2011/07/whats-on-inside-of-those-water-tanks.html

Water?

[PorkyP]

Or would it have a top or lid to prevent it getting loads of dead birds and leaf debris in the water, and likely clogging up the outlet eventually..??

[GNRi1959]

Robert, your picture is full of great colour detail

Eoin, your sketch is very good and worth exploring

Dave, i'll deal with you next time we meet!

[David Holman]

Just goes to show what you can learn from being a railway modeller. Looks like I have some remedial work to do on my tank now!

[GNRi1959]

I remember lads telling me that they used to hide inside the tank in Omagh all day when they were supposed to be in school. This was in the early 1970s, after closure of course.

[murrayec]

Re; Water Tank Structure.

On reflection! no discerning Railway Man would spend his good money on my first submission so this morning I revised my guess to a more economical solution, this is the kind of way plastic tanks are built today and am sure it came from the past;-

 

Curved corners to the outer sheets would add significant structural capabilities and could lead to even more cost savings for the Railway Man- like the photos of the green tank above!

Eoin

 

 

[Lough Erne]

For my sins, I have had the pleasure of inspecting the inside of some railway water tanks over the years. The GN and the NCC favoured tanks with subtle curves at the bottom and the corners - this can be seen to some effect in the tank kit at whitehead - ex portrush. Murrayec is correct, that less is very much more, and each panel, making up the tank (usually cast iron grouted and bolted together) would be connected to the floor panels with tie bars at approx 30-40 degrees, with additional horizontal tie bars in the corners - highlighted yellow in the sketch above. The tie-bars would usually  be solid rod, bolted to brackets cast into the panels making up the tank.

Regards

LE

[GNRi1959]

When modelling the tank for Omagh I was well aware of the curved corners but decided against trying to replicate the tank exactly. If I knew of an easy way of doing it, I'd replace my current one  thanks

[David Holman]

All that is needed for curved edges is some thicker microstrip, say 80 or 100 thou, welded to the inside seams. This means you can then file and sand radiuses edges and corners with any fear of making holes in the sides.

 There again, the were square edged tanks, so either will do.

[murrayec]

Hi Guys

Evergreen do 2.5mm (the largest) Quarter Round ref; 250, which would be ideal for the corners of the tank, if one was to stick a horizontal styrene strip to the inside top edge of the sides one would not notice the internal square sides of the Quarter Round.

Eoin

[GNRi1959]

More progress to the area of the goods yard that gets close to the passenger platforms...

Edited October 17, 2019 by GNRi1959

[GNRi1959]

Nearing completion........

[GNRi1959]

And another......

[Patrick Davey]

Superb Tony, a real masterpiece sir!