Murphy Models new 201 and Mk3 coaches

[DJ Dangerous]

1 minute ago, BosKonay said:

Perhaps IRM will be announcing ranges of coaches somewhat sooner  

A range of coaches! That sounds promising, interesting and expensive!

[BosKonay]

1 minute ago, DJ Dangerous said:

A range of coaches! That sounds promising, interesting and expensive!

Ranges. 
 

perhaps  

[DJ Dangerous]

Just now, BosKonay said:

Ranges. 
 

perhaps  

Even better!!!

Goodbye to

[JasonB]

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

Ranges. 
 

perhaps  

Intriguing, what could it be. Great, won't be able to sleep tonight. 

[jhb171achill]

A "range" of high-quality RTR laminates of several types is surely the next thing needed.

[BosKonay]

More next Thursday. At least the first of many many new things 

[jhb171achill]

I'm drooooling, and it's all yer fault.............

[Westcorkrailway]

2 hours ago, BosKonay said:

More next Thursday. At least the first of many many new things 

Hmmmmmmmmmm the first of many ehh,  don’t know how many announcements I would be able to handle within 2021

 

neither does my financial advisor

[iarnrod]

16 hours ago, BosKonay said:

Perhaps IRM will be announcing ranges of coaches somewhat sooner  

Considering MM have released Cravens and Mk.2's, with Mk.3's hopefully on the way, that would leave Park Royals, the various CIE Inchicore built coaches and the current Cork or Belfast stock to be produced in model form, assuming a product isn't duplicated by two manufacturers. 

My money would be on Park Royals from that lot, considering the A Class is about to hit the shelves soon and the fact that the Park Royals had a long life span over multiple livery era's.

However, still fair game for north of the border coaching stock with the 70 and 80 Class and the various Mk.2 Enterprise stock (aside from the previously released MM triple pack of NIR coaches) still to be produced in model form. Hard to call on this lot, but 80 Class would be a likely candidate, considering their brief use on IR metals for a few years in the late 1980"s.

In any case, lookimg forward to whatever the new announcement(s) is/are.

Edited August 22, 2021 by iarnrod

[Bumble_Bee]

Ooooh exciting! Mk2s and 3s are great, but it would be awesome to see some other coach types being represented

 

6 wheel bangers in a variety of liveries from north and south like the Irish version of Hattons Genesis? "IRM Tús" perhaps?

[Blaine]

1 hour ago, Bumble_Bee said:

6 wheel bangers in a variety of liveries from north and south like the Irish version of Hattons Genesis? "IRM Tús" perhaps?

Read points 4/5 in your mission statement on the previous page of this thead...... 

[Westcorkrailway]

4 hours ago, Blaine said:

Read points 4/5 in your mission statement on the previous page of this thead...... 

to be fair, there is a difference between an Irish livery Hymek and Irish livery 6 wheel coaches. Nothing on our rails even remotely looked like a hymek. But our coaches strongly resembled those in the UK 

 

There isn’t  to much up roar across the water that an LMS coach is using the same prototype as a LNER, GWR, GCR, SCER and LBSCR etc. I’m sure if a 3rd wave of hatton’s coaches had a CIE or NCC variant we would be quite excited, if IRM did it even more so (although personally I’m hoping for something along the lines of a Park Royal first)

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Westcorkrailway

[jhb171achill]

What's that 6-wheel first? Looks very nice - just needs footboards.

Regarding carriage design and comparisons with the UK, it depends what you're comparing. Some GSWR designs were very "British" looking, as was MRNCC & LMSNCC stuff. But the BCDR, GNR(I), DSER and MGWR designs were quite unlike anything in Britain.

The Hattons "Genesis" stuff bears a good resemblance to a generic GSWR type, though, of mid-1880s to 1910 or so. So does the Hornby stuff, though the latter needs a second footboard. Almost all Irish coaches had double footboards due to lower platforms on many lines, as built.

A feature which is common on many Midland (of England) designs, and many of the Great Western Railway on the Big Island, is of bowed-in ends. These were commonplace on both those railways, even going back to the GWR's broad gauge era. However, in Ireland, this feature was virtually unknown, only the WLWR using it. This rules out the Ratio kits without major end surgery. LNER and LNWR designs, and BR Mk. 1s, are of designs completely alien to any Irish company, bar, in the case of LNWR-style upper body panelling, the DNGR.

There's a design of South Eastern & Chatham body profile which bears something of a resemblance in side profile and roof profile to post-1905 MGWR Cusack-era designs. Window spacings aren't anything like the MGWR thing, though, but one of these SECR 50-footers in CIE green would certainly pass the two foot rule (well, maybe a three-foot rule); while IRM are finalising their range of MGWR six-wheelers (pray!) I might get one of these things.

For modellers of the DSER, whose roof profile was quite unique, the BCDR, whose window dimensions were quite unique, or the MGWR - with both roof profiles, beading on the body, and window shapes and structures* ALL quite unique, the Hattons / Hornby stuff is not even remotely close.

(* The classic "tell-tale" MGWR design had windows with curved corners at the top and square at the bottom. There is a kit somewhere of a coach from the North Eastern Railway in Brexitland which has windows like this, and while beading isn't quite right, would look good enough on a GSR / CIE layout. The NER is the only British company which seems to have made much use of this feature).

 

 

Just looking again at your model - is that made from Hornby 4-wheel "Thomas" coaches? It's a superb job - and very DSER-esque!

[Westcorkrailway]

The model above was mode on another thread by @Mike 84Cin 2015 presumably for the Bantry layout. It would look very nice behind the Bandon tank! Superb modelling

Since hattons have a generic 6 wheel design that fits for many (some) of the Irish prototypes that in one of there waves they would release one in a CIE livery of some sort. Alas I’ve lost faith it will happen but there is always a chance IRM will release one of those GSWR designs that got Black and Tan liveries, though in the very far future if an idea were to exist 

 

[Bob229]

Looking forward to the announcement will it be Mk4 and Dvt  similiar to the Accurascale Mk5 coaches look excellent

[airfixfan]

Some NCC coaches were of course ex Midland Railway coaches sent over after the Belfast Blitz of 1941 from the LMS parent company.

[DJ Dangerous]

11 hours ago, Bob229 said:

Looking forward to the announcement will it be Mk4 and Dvt  similiar to the Accurascale Mk5 coaches look excellent

Exactly!

The old guys had their turn with the A Class, now it's time for something modern!

How many hours left until Thursday?

Too many.

[jhb171achill]

18 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

The model above was mode on another thread by @Mike 84Cin 2015 presumably for the Bantry layout. It would look very nice behind the Bandon tank! Superb modelling

Since hattons have a generic 6 wheel design that fits for many (some) of the Irish prototypes that in one of there waves they would release one in a CIE livery of some sort. Alas I’ve lost faith it will happen but there is always a chance IRM will release one of those GSWR designs that got Black and Tan liveries, though in the very far future if an idea were to exist 

 

VERY nice.

Thats quite like one 1890s design. Was planning to do that myself eventually.

Regarding six-wheelers getting the black’n’tan livery, no passenger-carrying ones ever did. Six full vans did, though, the last two withdrawn in 1968 & 1970.

All six were 1880s design GSWR vans - nothing midland survived.

The last passenger-carrying 6-wheelers, a mix of GSWR & Midland types, were withdrawn and scrapped in Cork in early 1963, all green, as the BnT livery was still only on a very small handful of main line carriages, plus one GSWR full van on the Ballaghaderreen branch. BnT had only first appeared less than a year before.

[Westcorkrailway]

4 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Exactly!

The old guys had their turn with the A Class, now it's time for something modern!

Your getting your 201 re-run soon enough, which means it’s our turn again

[jhb171achill]

Hattons have “new” Murphy stuff on pre-order!

[Bob229]

7 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Exactly!

The old guys had their turn with the A Class, now it's time for something modern!

How many hours left until Thursday?

Too many.

Roll on Thursday

[DJ Dangerous]

On 21/8/2021 at 8:29 PM, BosKonay said:

More next Thursday. At least the first of many many new things 

 

On 21/8/2021 at 6:44 PM, BosKonay said:

Ranges. 
 

perhaps  

 

So, the probabilty list is:

1. B&I Ferry - highly detailed but has to float so that you can take it into the bath with you.

(Would have said "pool" but most of you wouldn't know what a real one of those is)

2. Two-tone green Dublin buses.

(KCs, KDs, Atlanteans and Van Hools only allowed on Facebook, booooo!))

3. Irish road vehicle range, probably Hinos or Road Liner Trucks

(Oxford commissions ruled out)

4. Old timey coaching range, something that ran from the fifties until the nineties, suitable for pretty much every RTR loco that's out there, including BR Mk1 GSVs.

5. Mk4 coaching range.

6. Mk3 coaching range in collaboration with Murphy Models.

7. Cement Bubble re-run.

8. P22

9. P47

10. Irish steam loco.

11. Generic five-plank open wagons in five-packs.

12. 141's and 181's using all of the innovation and experience from the A Class project.

Get your bets laid!!!

 

 

On 24/8/2021 at 12:48 PM, Westcorkrailway said:

Your getting your 201 re-run soon enough, which means it’s our turn again

 

That's only speculation, get back in line, you!

[BosKonay]

We’ll all know in 4 hours  

[Westcorkrailway]

24 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

That's only speculation, get back in line, you!

Ahhh cmon it’s more or less confirmed

 

11 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

We’ll all know in 4 hours  

“The anticipation is killing me” -Connolly Stn 2021

 

cant wait for the long awaited announcement of the Cork and Macroom Direct Railway inspection car

[murphaph]

My money is on a DCC ready Lartigue Monorail starter set, complete with matching calves.

[Westcorkrailway]

On 21/8/2021 at 6:40 PM, BosKonay said:

Perhaps IRM will be announcing ranges of coaches somewhat sooner  

What about a Dublin atmospheric railway set?

[murphaph]

5 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

What about a Dublin atmospheric railway set?

*Bicycle pump not included

[Westcorkrailway]

16 minutes ago, murphaph said:

*Bicycle pump not included

“Breaking news-man attaches 200psi water pump to train set and breaks sound barrier and his wall”

[Edo]

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

We’ll all know in 4 hours  

Given the build up ....this better be good .......or there will be a love Island level backlash here....

[Dempsey]

Fair to say what ever it will be will suit some and not others. I look forward myself to finding out whether my bank account will be safe or if I'll be looking forward to my new purchase 

[Noel]

On 21/8/2021 at 6:40 PM, BosKonay said:

Perhaps IRM will be announcing ranges of coaches somewhat sooner  

On 21/8/2021 at 6:44 PM, BosKonay said:

Ranges. 
 

perhaps  

[Noel]

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

We’ll all know in 4 hours  

that’s only 3hrs from now. Heading over to Costa outside now.

 

[BosKonay]

 

[Westcorkrailway]

18 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

 

I think I’m going to watch this just outside Albert quay building for good luck 

[Noel]

32 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

 

Holy moly not weighing anchor till I’ve seen this we’ve LTE here at the moment.