mphoey Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Well irm has confirmed an irish steam loco for this year. It was on their rpsi mk2 update today 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Hinting that it is indeed an RPSI one....? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I note that they use the word could rather than will, which suggests…..or maybe it doesn’t. We’ll have to wait for the formal announcement. Stephen 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Achill bogie please! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Would prefer to see a Queen than her Jeep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 As 00 Works showed with their CBSCR 0.6.0ST, obscurity is quite possible! There can be few prototypes more obscure than these, but it sold out I believe. As for the first IRM one, and the foregoing being the case, it could be absolutely anything under the sun. Availability and suitability of the internal gubbins may have a big say in determining what it will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: As 00 Works showed with their CBSCR 0.6.0ST, obscurity is quite possible! There can be few prototypes more obscure than these, but it sold out I believe. As for the first IRM one, and the foregoing being the case, it could be absolutely anything under the sun. Availability and suitability of the internal gubbins may have a big say in determining what it will be. Tacked on to production of the identical British based locos, just a different coat of paint and number plates. If it were a stand alone Irish obscure model, it may not have fared as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 My money is still on the Guinness saddle tank no.3. Failing that, the 0-6-4T Lough Erne or the DSER K2 2-6-0 no.461. No outside valve gear. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Go anywhere, do anything ... .. at least that's what I four-see anyhow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, minister_for_hardship said: Tacked on to production of the identical British based locos, just a different coat of paint and number plates. If it were a stand alone Irish obscure model, it may not have fared as well. True, indeed. Maybe we should be scanning what British chassis might suit something Irish........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I may have posted something similar before, but the choices made by manufacturers in the past have sometimes been odd, like the Hornby Dublo/Wrenn R1 0-6-0Ts, which only really got used on the Folkestone Harbour branch. This was very much back in the day, whereas we now have sensible options like Stanier Black 5, Terriers, etc, etc. I suspect that in the past, choices were driven by what could be easily produced, whereas now, options are more varied. However, from an Irish, steam outline point of view, a key choice will be whether a new rtr loco can be converted to 21mm gauge or not. New diesels seem to be made that way, but for any steam loco with splashers, outside cylinders or valve gear, suspect it becomes a production nightmare. Add in the fact that there are very few steam locos that avoid ticking these boxes and suspect whatever is produced will perforce be limited to 16.5mm gauge, though guess that is unlikely to worry the majority of potential buyers.The By the by, does anyone know if the 7mm scale Ruston 88DS is easily converted to 36.75mm gauge? Likewise the little Hunslet 0-6-0T which bears more that a passing resemblance to one used on the Fenit branch and elsewhere the the South West? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'm thinking this could be a 'top tip' I'm pretty sure that the Sligo & Donegal Junction would have acquired one if it appears. In RPSI days seen all over Ireland. JG Dewing photographed it at Coleraine April 1970. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphoey Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 On 27/3/2024 at 8:30 AM, Irishswissernie said: I'm thinking this could be a 'top tip' I'm pretty sure that the Sligo & Donegal Junction would have acquired one if it appears. In RPSI days seen all over Ireland. JG Dewing photographed it at Coleraine April 1970. if it was to allow an rpsi sales version 171 is obvious as the rpsi main identity loco and due to come back shortly into service 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 13/4/2024 at 2:02 PM, mphoey said: if it was to allow an rpsi sales version 171 is obvious as the rpsi main identity loco and due to come back shortly into service Exactly my theory for some time now! But I have been completely wrong with my predictions on each and every IRM announcement so far............. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brack Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 26/3/2024 at 10:30 PM, Horsetan said: Failing that, the 0-6-4T Lough Erne You could do all 3 types with the same chassis.... Bet its a jinty. Or a LNWR special tank... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
226 Abhann na Suire Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Surely a Jeep…? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 29 minutes ago, 226 Abhann na Suire said: Surely a Jeep…? I'm actually astonished that this hasn't been done years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 All these nice wagons are super (two packs heading my way!) but I wonder when we'll hear about the steam announcement........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Patrick Davey said: All these nice wagons are super (two packs heading my way!) but I wonder when we'll hear about the steam announcement........? It’s being re-boilered right now…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 hours ago, jhb171achill said: I'm actually astonished that this hasn't been done years ago. I’d say it would be a likely candidate as it could also be easily retooled into one of the LMS/BR 2-6-4Ts for Accurascale, which certainly would sell a bit, considering how ubiquitous they were in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 16 hours ago, Branchline121 said: .... it could also be easily retooled into one of the LMS/BR 2-6-4Ts for Accurascale, which certainly would sell a bit, considering how ubiquitous they were in Britain. Not that easy. The smokebox/G8AS parallel boiler/firebox and possibly the cylinders and outside motion are directly transferable from the Fowler engine, likewise pony and trailing bogie, but the chassis frames appear different. The 6ft driving wheels are shared with the Stanier Black 5. The tank and bunker plate work are also Stanier/Fairburn-like, without being a direct swap with either of those 2-6-4T designs. If it had been that easy, Hornby would have had alternative tooling for their Fowler 2-6-4T ready years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Indeed. There’s many a thing can be converted to as near as dammit to an Irish prototype - and many’s a modeller had made a pretty good “Jeep” out of a British 2.6.4T. But they never seem to look QUITE the same; I suspect new design would be as necessary as for a Sligo tank or a Dingle 2.6.0T. Doable, of course. I always just thought that given a Jeep’s versatility, and it’s busy RPSI career into modern times, it could be an excellent candidate. As the very last steam locos in service in Ireland (cue a VERY heavily weathered factory-finish!), they rubbed shoulders with many types of diesels too…. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I still think the Ballymena & Larne would make a worthwhile subject. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 You mean the 2-4-4T? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 the only real candidate for a RTR Irish steam locomotive 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 8 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: the only real candidate for a RTR Irish steam locomotive What is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 13 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: the only real candidate for a RTR Irish steam locomotive If there's a suitable chassis out there, can't see a reason why someone couldn't 3D print a body, bar getting hold of an accurate drawing for such an unusual short lived loco could be tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 8 minutes ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: What is it? Cork, Bandon and South Coast Railway Baldwin Tank Engines from America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBSCR_Baldwin_saddle_tank 1 minute ago, minister_for_hardship said: If there's a suitable chassis out there, can't see a reason why someone couldn't 3D print a body, bar getting hold of an accurate drawing for such an unusual short lived loco could be tricky. There is drawings of the locomotive on the internet (its on the forum infact!) for all to see so it wouldn't be the most difficult thing to do. problem is....it wouldn't be a great seller id imagine! at most people might want it to put next to there GMS to show the evolution of American locomotives in Ireland https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/2214/rec/93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said: Cork, Bandon and South Coast Railway Baldwin Tank Engines from America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBSCR_Baldwin_saddle_tank There is drawings of the locomotive on the internet (its on the forum infact!) for all to see so it wouldn't be the most difficult thing to do. problem is....it wouldn't be a great seller id imagine! at most people might want it to put next to there GMS to show the evolution of American locomotives in Ireland https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/2214/rec/93 Those were probably the most hideous-looking steam locomotives ever to run in Ireland! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 6 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Those were probably the most hideous-looking steam locomotives ever to run in Ireland! dont know if these ever ran but..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Westcorkrailway said: dont know if these ever ran but..... Not pretty either! This was an experimental conversion of an existing loco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) The GNR were generally spot on with design but the superheater experiments produced some horrors. I can’t repost here but have a look on the GNRI section of ‘Transports of Delight-Smugmug’. Edited April 29 by Galteemore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said: the only real candidate for a RTR Irish steam locomotive 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 41 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: dont know if these ever ran but..... That's the last iteration of Bulleid's turf-burning testbed, prior to scrapping in about 1957. 356 was colloquially known as the "...Mental Turf Burning Locomotive" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 we're all crying out for this 5 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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