Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive

[airfixfan]

30 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Yes. Could be a ‘free to free’ working.

That is a possibility as right up to the closure of the Derry Road a substantial amount of freight went to St Johnston daily except Sunday for Co Donegal

[Irishswissernie]

I have finished scanning and identifying another 140 odd Irish negatives mainly from 1959 but these 2 are I think from the 1920's. Belfast & County Down Railway 4-4-2T's at Belfast Queens Quay

Does anyone know when the Coaling Plant was built, quite a modern piece of kit for an Irish Railway . It possibly dates from the extensive re-building of Queens Quay in the 1910's.

 

[Galteemore]

Coaling plant was built c1945, I think Ernie. The top photo has a 1920s feel in terms of loco condition, but the bottom one puts me in mind of the rundown of BCDR steam c1950.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Galteemore

[Irishswissernie]

Thanks, the film also looks like post WW2 stock as well.

Although these Cavan & Leitrim images are from 20 March 1959 the interior is still 1890's.

First 2 photos Coach 5L , 2nd class in foreground, First Class the upholstered armchair. to the rear. In the background, looks like livestock  judging by the evidence on the floor.

3rd photo 1L rebuilt with  upholstered 2nd class!

 

 

Edited April 9, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[airfixfan]

In relation to BCDR photos would say around 1949 and both locos remained in service until 1952/3 when replaced by the MEDs. Coaling plant authorised after end of WW2 using compensation money and modelled on the York Road example and completed by early 1947 just before the UTA take over and destruction of the BCDR system in 1950.

Edited April 9, 2021 by airfixfan

[Irishswissernie]

I think 17 is more likely the 1920's as its in that era's livery and the view of No 6 I put on earlier is definitiely 1920's when it was the regular Ballynahinch branch loco and is in original un-rebuilt condition.

Another negative is of GNRI QL 114 pre 1932 when it was withdrawn. Now is this at Amiens St, can anyone confirm. LATER. I've identified it as being at Dundalk at the Loco shed sidings with the wagon repair shop behind.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[airfixfan]

Agree having had a coffee and a second look at No 6 that is around the 1920s and likely to be from the same time asNo 17 then. Second BCDR photo between 1947 and 1952. Some English enthusiasts came to visit the BCDR when it was listed for closure so will still go for 1949 with the short lived Coaling plant. The GNR photo does look like the shed at Dublin now used by the RPSI.

[jhb171achill]

53 minutes ago, airfixfan said:

Agree having had a coffee and a second look at No 6 that is around the 1920s and likely to be from the same time asNo 17 then. Second BCDR photo between 1947 and 1952. Some English enthusiasts came to visit the BCDR when it was listed for closure so will still go for 1949 with the short lived Coaling plant. The GNR photo does look like the shed at Dublin now used by the RPSI.

Could that one be the old GNR goods yard at Amiens St., where the car park now is? There was a big goods shed in there.......

[Irishswissernie]

Dundalk at the engine shed siding throat with the long low building of the wagon repair shop at the rear and the roof of the Boiler/erecting shops just visible at right.

 

Edited April 9, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[Lambeg man]

Definitely Dundalk. The Wagon shops are in the background and the Running Shed (out of picture) is to the right. Nice photo Ernie.

[Irishswissernie]

I am awaiting a Special Delivery today of 2000 negatives to identify and label up. The bad news for Irish enthusiasts is that they are all UK. The good news (for me) is that in return I can keep any I fancy.

There may be some more Irish, the sender of the last batch also included Swansea & Mumbles negs so hopefully some Irish have also been miss- sorted .

In the meantime 3 more Irish from the first lot. Cavan & Leitrim / CB&P coupling height differences. Ballinamore's high tec point & signal Control Centre & Waterford & Tramore's answer to luxury bus travel.

[Westcorkrailway]

5 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

I am awaiting a Special Delivery today of 2000 negatives to identify and label up. The bad news for Irish enthusiasts is that they are all UK. The good news (for me) is that in return I can keep any I fancy.

There may be some more Irish, the sender of the last batch also included Swansea & Mumbles negs so hopefully some Irish have also been miss- sorted .

In the meantime 3 more Irish from the first lot. Cavan & Leitrim / CB&P coupling height differences. Ballinamore's high tec point & signal Control Centre & Waterford & Tramore's answer to luxury bus travel.

When former C&MLR Tank 6s arived at the S&SLR following that lines closure, the loco had such different coupling heights it had to be sent to inchicore for modification immediately after it arived

[connollystn]

Is there an photograph in existence for Waterford Manor Street Station? I don't recall ever seeing one. Considering how short the line was, and not connected to any other railway, it seems to have had an interesting history.

[Irishswissernie]

Yes, I have an Album on Flickr. This is Waterford Manor exterior.

Below a Link to the Album

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/albums/72157711590538817/with/48994179313/

 

[Broithe]

21 minutes ago, connollystn said:

Is there an photograph in existence for Waterford Manor Street Station? I don't recall ever seeing one. Considering how short the line was, and not connected to any other railway, it seems to have had an interesting history.

http://www.waterfordmuseum.ie/exhibit/web/DisplayImage/K0qfsMMKxRJps/1/Manor_Street_Railway_Station_Waterford_City.html;jsessionid=F97116E9EA89A5324353A6620110FB0A

[connollystn]

Thanks guys, fantastic stuff. This is my favourite thread in the whole of this site - hate having to wait more than five minutes for new [vintage] photographs to be uploaded.

[Irishswissernie]

I usually upload 2 or 3 new Irish images to ERNIE's Railway Archive on Flickr every day unless Madame has other ideas as to what I should be doing. At present there are another 1078 scanned and  awaiting upload so enough to see out 2021. Everything is in albums but you can catch the daily new material by checking out the Photostream.

Images I put on here are not always added to Flickr at the same time though. These 2 were added today Limerick 1960

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[connollystn]

Thanks irishswissernie, that's like telling an alcoholic where you've hidden the keys to the drinks cabinet. I'm going to be very busy looking at all of those photographs.

[ShaneC]

On 4/4/2021 at 9:45 PM, Irishswissernie said:

This view of Inspection Car No 2 in 1961 at Kildare I uploaded a couple of days ago has gone down well on Flickr. Its been picked up by the International Group 'In Explore' and now has over 6000 hits and 112 favourites.

I particularly like the leather plush seats and what appears to be a starting handle on the front! I wonder what happened to it. Might have to persuade Alan to build me one.

 

 

That looks a great little thing - do you know was it self-propelled like the current iteration or was it loco-pushed?

Edited April 12, 2021 by ShaneC

[Irishswissernie]

Self propelled.

 

[Irishswissernie]

A couple of interesting Cavan & Leitrim views uploaded to Flickr today.

Mohill station 20 March 1959. A GNRI notice board displaying the CIE C&L Timetable and some interesting details of 4T taking water. Note the 'Tilley' Lamp and also the ladder to assist getting onto the loco.

 

[Galteemore]

One for A class fans today. 1959 Radio Train Thurles 

[connollystn]

That's an unusual sight seeing two As operating a double headed train. An interesting mix of coaches in toe. Thanks for the pic.

[Irishswissernie]

Some Cavan & Leitrim views uploaded to Flickr today including this one of 5T on a Well wagon at Broadstone on 28 June 1959. 

The second more broadside view not uploaded yet shows how to 'tether' your iron horse to the wagon.

 

Edited May 8, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[Galteemore]

Interesting Ernie. Presumably that’s 5T on her way to the USA? 

[Irishswissernie]

Cork, Albert Quay 12 September 1960.

I'm wondering if the photographer was on holiday with his wife and she asked him to take a photograph of the cute little cat, and " not another boring old train picture".I hope he got away with it!

Edited May 13, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[Lambeg man]

Thanks for posting Ernie. For some reason in this particular photograph the buffers of the Railcar look almost too large to be real. As a matter of interest, who was the photographer? Is this the early afternoon arrival from Bantry?

Edited May 13, 2021 by Lambeg man

[Westcorkrailway]

I noticr the wasp design on the roof, i see these the odd time. Were they a short design experiment?

[Garfield]

8 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I noticr the wasp design on the roof, i see these the odd time. Were they a short design experiment?

It does seem to have been relatively short-lived and doesn't seem to have been rolled out across the fleet - just on a small number of units.

Always thought it was an odd location to place the stripes; you would think placing wasp stripes or a yellow panel below the windscreen would have proved more beneficial in allowing someone to spot a train hurtling towards them...

[Irishswissernie]

1 hour ago, Lambeg man said:

Thanks for posting Ernie. For some reason in this particular photograph the buffers of the Railcar look almost too large to be real. As a matter of interest, who was the photographer? Is this the early afternoon arrival from Bantry?

Photgrapher was a D Twibell. Looking at the shadows with the sun setting on the left it looks like a late-ish afternoon shot.

[jhb171achill]

35 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I noticr the wasp design on the roof, i see these the odd time. Were they a short design experiment?

Yes, they were - only a few cars (for all I'm aware maybe only one) got them. And it did run in West Cork on some occasions, as I've seem pics of it at Bantry and Albert Quay.

However in the above pic, that's a shadow of telegraph wires - you'll see it goes right along the roof. Roofs were normally black.

17 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

Photgrapher was a D Twibell. Looking at the shadows with the sun setting on the left it looks like a late-ish afternoon shot.

Yes, arrival 2.30pm in Cork. Tail lamp on railcar.

1 hour ago, Lambeg man said:

ks for posting Ernie. For some reason in this particular photograph the buffers of the Railcar look almost too large to be real. 

The AEC cars were given a trial on the Valentina branch (though never used there). They needed the wider buffers for sharp curves. Some bogie coaches were fitted with them too.

[Irishswissernie]

This was the Wasp livery at 2638 Limerick Junction

 

2660 at Albert Quay 1960. Was this a rebuilt crash repair?

Edited May 13, 2021 by Irishswissernie

[GSR 800]

1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said:

This was the Wasp livery at 2638 Limerick Junction

 

2660 at Albert Quay 1960. Was this a rebuilt crash repair?

The latter was one of the unusual Bulleid built types, looked very box like

[BSGSV]

1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said:

 

2660 at Albert Quay 1960. Was this a rebuilt crash repair?

It's one of the ones Mr. Bulleid got built at Inchicore, additional to the 60 from AEC, 2660-2665. They appeared in 1957, but were all converted to powered intermediates from as early as 1961.  2660 was one of the railcars on the last day of service.

Edited May 13, 2021 by BSGSV

[Lambeg man]

2 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

They needed the wider buffers for sharp curves. Some bogie coaches were fitted with them too.

If sharp curves on the Valencia branch or anywhere else were the whole reason, why then were several ex-GNR Railcars, both AEC and BUT, that went to CIE fitted with these large 2' buffers post 1960?