Irish rails new crane

[MOGUL]

Under test in Germany so presumably due here soon..

it’s a Kirow Multitasker 500

Edited September 13, 2021 by MOGUL

[jhb171achill]

Is it a steam crane?

 

(Here's me bus....)

[spudfan]

Will it cost as much as the Roco one?

[jhb171achill]

28 minutes ago, spudfan said:

Will it cost as much as the Roco one?

Depends if it has kadees or not.

[Galteemore]

That’s a huge debate when Stratford on Avon Model Railway Club start a new layout project. Kadee or not Kadee, that is the question. 
 

Sorry - I’ll get my coat - or hose and jerkin…

[Mayner]

A multi purpose Railway Crane a complete reversal from IE recent practice of hiring mobile cranes for recovery and Hi-Rail excavators for p.w. work.

https://www.kirow.de/typo3temp/cokcb2web/files/ee0d10fd6f03cc58b239cac7c8f13b38/MULTI_TASKER_EN.pdf

 

[Blaine]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:14 PM, Mayner said:

A multi purpose Railway Crane a complete reversal from IE recent practice of hiring mobile cranes for recovery and Hi-Rail excavators for p.w. work.

https://www.kirow.de/typo3temp/cokcb2web/files/ee0d10fd6f03cc58b239cac7c8f13b38/MULTI_TASKER_EN.pdf

 

All depends on the work intended - will out lift an excavator and quicker onsite than a mobile crane. Big Mobiles often need a space cleared/created whereas this one can use the existing rails. All depends on the job naturally. This has been bought for civil engineering work, unlikely it will be used in a re-railing operation

[MOGUL]

2 hours ago, Blaine said:

All depends on the work intended - will out lift an excavator and quicker onsite than a mobile crane. Big Mobiles often need a space cleared/created whereas this one can use the existing rails. All depends on the job naturally. This has been bought for civil engineering work, unlikely it will be used in a re-railing operation

A lot of OHLE masts and subtstation equipment to go up in the next few years.. Like you said, this will have better access than a road crane

[spudfan]

Interesting to see the different gauge tracks together. I hope they did realise that this goes on the 5'3" and not the 4'81/2"  rails...

[Blaine]

22 hours ago, spudfan said:

Interesting to see the different gauge tracks together. I hope they did realise that this goes on the 5'3" and not the 4'81/2"  rails...

Its an off the shelf product ultimately, look closely to see the 5'6 rail too, although it could also be Iberian Gauge

Edited September 15, 2021 by Blaine

[DoctorPan]

Oh nice to finally see pictures of the real thing after hearing discussions about it 2 years ago. Will be a valuable bit of kit over the next few years with the various infrastructure projects soon to be kicking off 

[MOGUL]

https://ireland.rhomberg-sersa.com/en/news/new-kirow-crane-for-irish-rail-network
 

Due in the next few weeks 

[jhb171achill]

An impressive looking thing, even if I would never even begin to understand what all the buttons or for, or the numerous signs and labels. It seems, from the narrative above, that IE staff will not operate this thing at all, but instead a team of people employed by a specially set-up Irish subsidiary of the makers - is that right?

Seems over-the-top in  terms of administration - and somebody's company CEO salary and dividends.

Could this be like the creeping and insidious "privatisation" of the British NHS by introducing more and more "private contractors" and "specialist firms", and "partners"?

Just a thought.

On a completely different note, any time I see the latest thing that maintenance and PW people are getting, I wonder what my father, a lifelong PW Civil Engineer, would have made of it! Old-school as he was in many ways, he was always keen to embrace new tech, and was pleased to be one of the first to get hold of the GNR's first ever tamper, which he deployed between Dundalk and Inniskeen before the GNR's Eastern District snaffled it........

[Mayner]

It looks like IE have contracted out track maintenance to Rhomberg Sersa Group possibly a "partnership' agreement. Possibly IE staff transferred to the new undertaking similar to what happened in the UK during the 1990s.

Seems to be a multinational track/infrastructure maintenance company https://www.rhomberg-sersa.com/en that operates in Europe, the UK and Australia.

Edited September 26, 2021 by Mayner

[MOGUL]

On 25/9/2021 at 2:07 PM, jhb171achill said:

An impressive looking thing, even if I would never even begin to understand what all the buttons or for, or the numerous signs and labels. It seems, from the narrative above, that IE staff will not operate this thing at all, but instead a team of people employed by a specially set-up Irish subsidiary of the makers - is that right?

Seems over-the-top in  terms of administration - and somebody's company CEO salary and dividends.

Could this be like the creeping and insidious "privatisation" of the British NHS by introducing more and more "private contractors" and "specialist firms", and "partners"?

Just a thought.

On a completely different note, any time I see the latest thing that maintenance and PW people are getting, I wonder what my father, a lifelong PW Civil Engineer, would have made of it! Old-school as he was in many ways, he was always keen to embrace new tech, and was pleased to be one of the first to get hold of the GNR's first ever tamper, which he deployed between Dundalk and Inniskeen before the GNR's Eastern District snaffled it........

 

On 26/9/2021 at 9:52 AM, Mayner said:

It looks like IE have contracted out track maintenance to Rhomberg Sersa Group possibly a "partnership' agreement. Possibly IE staff transferred to the new undertaking similar to what happened in the UK during the 1990s.

Seems to be a multinational track/infrastructure maintenance company https://www.rhomberg-sersa.com/en that operates in Europe, the UK and Australia.

IE have contracted out the maintenance and operation of the OTM fleet for about 15 years now.. Rhomberg Sersa are just the latest incumbent, I think they won the tender about 3 years ago now.. 

It was originally operated by Lloyd rail for about 9-10 years

 

[K801]

will there be some flat wagons ordered to go under the boom during transportation or maybe a couple of old liner flats

[Broithe]

I assume it's been scanned already and I'm expecting the container to arrive for Christmas 2023?

[MOGUL]

Latest update from Rhomberg Sersa saying the Crane has arrived, pic below attached.. Not sure where but looks a bit like NW

 

Edited October 4, 2021 by MOGUL

[hurricanemk1c]

Arrived on Thursday, delivered to Portlaoise around midnight Thursday into Friday

[MOGUL]

1 hour ago, hurricanemk1c said:

Arrived on Thursday, delivered to Portlaoise around midnight Thursday into Friday

Any pictures in daylight?

[connollystn]

Not sure how to react to the news that Iarnrod Eireann have out-sourced the maintenance of way (wasn't aware of this until now). Might start to see either the 071s or 201s starting to appear displaying the Rhomberg Sersa livery - interesting times, indeed.

[MOGUL]

2 hours ago, connollystn said:

Not sure how to react to the news that Iarnrod Eireann have out-sourced the maintenance of way (wasn't aware of this until now). Might start to see either the 071s or 201s starting to appear displaying the Rhomberg Sersa livery - interesting times, indeed.

It isn't the maintenance of way, its operation and maintenance of the OTM machinery.. Has been this way for about 15 years now, but fairly sure the equipment still carries IE logos as they are still owned by IE..

Edited October 5, 2021 by MOGUL

[connollystn]

Thanks Mogul. Totally unaware of that. I'm really out of touch with how the permanent way is being maintained. Wonder how long we'll have to wait for IRM to produce a model of this crane?

PS. Following that comment it's likely that I'm public enemy no. 1 with the guys at IRM Towers

[ttc0169]

Perhaps a new model for IRM….

[connollystn]

@ttc0169 - That's a brilliant suggestion. Wonder if the guys at IRM Towers will take note.

[DiveController]

On 6/10/2021 at 3:35 PM, ttc0169 said:

Perhaps a new model for IRM….

You have got to be kidding me, Noel! it's barely been commissioned and so much other stuff to do.

There's the MV Hibernia and a lineside model of Carlisle pier first surely!

Sure, you'll have no room for it on Tara Junction anyway

Edited October 8, 2021 by DiveController

[ttc0169]

3 hours ago, DiveController said:

You have got to be kidding me, Noel! it's barely been commissioned and so much other stuff to do

Sure, you'll have no room for it on Tara Junction anyway

There is always room on Tara junction….watch this space….!!!

[Sleeper]

Took a shot of this the other day before someone weather's it

 

Edited October 23, 2021 by Sleeper

[connollystn]

Thanks for the picture, was wondering when one would appear of it finally on Irish tracks. Are these cranes bespoken?

[DartStation]

On 8/10/2021 at 10:45 PM, ttc0169 said:

There is always room on Tara junction….watch this space….!!!

From speaking to TTC at Wexford yesterday and with some downtime today I managed to complete my version of the new crane- here are a few pics of mine - enjoy 

 

 

[popeye]

Where did you get that??

I like the underframe but the top looks a bit plastic.

When weathered down it will be nice. 

[DartStation]

Hi popeye

Its KiBri kit - with a few modifications and my own decals.

Thanks

PR  

[MOGUL]

After 20 months in Portlaoise waiting on the pen pushers to do their thing, the Kirow has been unleashed to the wilds today! Doing a tour of the network this week(likely for gauging purposes)

[alittlebit64]

30 minutes ago, MOGUL said:

After 20 months in Portlaoise waiting on the pen pushers to do their thing, the Kirow has been unleashed to the wilds today! Doing a tour of the network this week(likely for gauging purposes)

Its doing the Rosslare Line as far as Wexford this week, but I'm not sure about other runs

[hurricanemk1c]

3 hours ago, MOGUL said:

After 20 months in Portlaoise waiting on the pen pushers to do their thing, the Kirow has been unleashed to the wilds today! Doing a tour of the network this week(likely for gauging purposes)

There's been overnight training and trials too, just because nobody sees it doesn't mean nothing has happened.