IRM Steam Speculation

[Robert Shrives]

2 hours ago, leslie10646 said:

When this link arrived in my inbox this morning, I thought that if these guys can do something as obscure as this, then almost anything is possible. Mind you, the Festiniog (all 14 miles of it) has more followers than the all the railways in Ireland.

Robert Shrives will be over the Moon!

https://www.hattons.co.uk/directory/versiondetails/5499/peco_products_oo9_ffestiniog_4_wheel_quarryman&utm_source=klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=modvehid5499-pecoquarrymanfrgreyinstock#models

Yep banged by head many a time (slow learner) on the door from the balcony on van no6. As a passenger guard and as freight guard on engineering trains over many years. tooling costs hopefully not too bad for a "simple" box. 

Robert 

[jhb171achill]

Me too - I had a holiday job on the FR in the summer when I was 17…. almost fifty years ago….happy days.

Edited December 22, 2022 by jhb171achill

[leslie10646]

I've just had another Hattons e-mail -

Rapido Trains are doing the famous Scottish loco the "Jones Goods" (a 4-6-0 in YELLOW (or green) for you youngsters!) - we should all stop speculating - just live long enough, and EVERYTHING will appear!

Certainly the Highland Railway modellers will be reaching for the 20 year old Malt this Christmas in celebration of what is to come!

[Colin R]

On 19/12/2022 at 9:30 PM, BosKonay said:

Our manor features diecast chassis, footplate and body

Is it just me or could this be taken as the direction of travel for a steam loco? 

[Lambeg man]

1 hour ago, leslie10646 said:

Rapido Trains are doing the famous Scottish loco the "Jones Goods" (a 4-6-0 in YELLOW (or green) for you youngsters!) - we should all stop speculating - just live long enough, and EVERYTHING will appear!

As a paid up member of the 'Hacking Club' I have to ask did not the GS&WR build some similar looking locomotives at the turn of the century? A narrow boilered 4-6-0 which were called "Long Toms" for some reason. Page 121 of the 'Bible'. Class 362, only three built and all withdrawn by 1928. Not my era but might float someone's boat.

[Colin R]

A couple of links which I hope work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GS%26WR_Class_362#Sources

https://ia600509.us.archive.org/19/items/locomotivesof19000lake/locomotivesof19000lake.pdf

 

 

[leslie10646]

2 hours ago, Lambeg man said:

As a paid up member of the 'Hacking Club' I have to ask did not the GS&WR build some similar looking locomotives at the turn of the century? A narrow boilered 4-6-0 which were called "Long Toms" for some reason. Page 121 of the 'Bible'. Class 362, only three built and all withdrawn by 1928. Not my era but might float someone's boat.

Sorry, Steve, the GSWR loco was inside cylinders and appears to have had a more highly pitched boiler.

[Lambeg man]

2 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

Sorry, Steve, the GSWR loco was inside cylinders and appears to have had a more highly pitched boiler.

Thank you Leslie, I stand corrected.

[Patrick Davey]

Any sign of that by now famous IRM countdown widget............?

[GSR 800]

7 minutes ago, Patrick Davey said:

Any sign of that by now famous IRM countdown widget............?

we were promised an announcement within the year...I'd imagine if there was one it'd be around the time of some of the big shows?

Edited September 12, 2023 by GSR 800

[DJ Dangerous]

Maybe there's a cross-over, reveal of the century, IRM's first steam loco and Accurascale's first O Gauge loco are one and the same!

@BosKonay did say that there was an Irish connection...

All will be revealed...

[Broithe]

6 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

@BosKonay did say that there was an Irish connection...

He's just teasing - they use the same coupling.

[Noel]

Flying snail steam era. Murphy Models/Bachmann Mogul N class. DCC'd some time ago. Looking forward to the IRM green Park Royals to run with GSWR Irish steam loco models.

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by Noel

[Georgeconna]

Wonder would PM do another release of those at some stage. 

[Noel]

5 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

Wonder would PM do another release of those at some stage. 

Doubt there is enough demand for an Irish Steam loco to make a production run of sufficient size to be economic and profitable.  Perhaps folks buy a current DCC ready bachmann in one of the BR liveries and respray to GSWR/CIE grey. Its an easy paint job, there is no lining needed just logo transfers.

[BosKonay]

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Doubt there is enough demand for an Irish Steam loco to make a production run of sufficient size to be economic and profitable.  Perhaps folks buy a current DCC ready bachmann in one of the BR liveries and respray to GSWR/CIE grey. Its an easy paint job, there is no lining needed just logo transfers.

You never know  At least one of the new tools underway at irm towers is steamy. 

[DJ Dangerous]

24 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

You never know  At least one of the new tools underway at irm towers is steamy. 

Was just gonna say, there's been a lot of speculation over the past year or so on what the first IRM steamer will be.

The first Accurascale steamer, the Manor Class, is mind blowing. I don't have a controller to do the loco justice, but the slow speed DC running and sensitivity to introducing current is top class.

Whether it's a GSR 800 or a J15 or something else, we're in for a real treat:

 

 

[Georgeconna]

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

You never know  At least one of the new tools underway at irm towers is steamy. 

Excellent news. Looking forward to that! Sound one duly ordered already in the head. 

36 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Was just gonna say, there's been a lot of speculation over the past year or so on what the first IRM steamer will be.

The first Accurascale steamer, the Manor Class, is mind blowing. I don't have a controller to do the loco justice, but the slow speed DC running and sensitivity to introducing current is top class.

Whether it's a GSR 800 or a J15 or something else, we're in for a real treat:

 

 

My Buddy bought a Manor from IRM at the show, Bargain price too, I dithered too much given that it was GWR, Looking forward to seeing his one go!

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by Georgeconna

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

Excellent news. Looking forward to that! Sound one duly ordered already in the head. 

My Buddy bought one from IRM at the show, Bargain price too, I dithered too much given that it was GWR, Looking forward to seeing his one go!

 

 

I chose Cookham Manor because I think that's the eighties preserved livery, so ties in with the BR blue that I remember.

A tech question for @BosKonay's boys:

Will an A Class LokPilot damage Cookham Manor or will she run well on one with no damage? I'd like to be able to try her on DCC and that's the only option for the foreseeable future.

Original IRM Steam Speculation thread:

 

 

[Ironroad]

4 hours ago, Noel said:

Doubt there is enough demand for an Irish Steam loco to make a production run of sufficient size to be economic and profitable.  Perhaps folks buy a current DCC ready bachmann in one of the BR liveries and respray to GSWR/CIE grey. Its an easy paint job, there is no lining needed just logo transfers.

Please, I think you have posted negatively on this subject before and it's disappointing to have cold water being thrown on the possibility or in fact now the probability, that such a model will be announced in the near future. I understood IRM were to announce a steamer this year. Why would you want to deter them? , Not that I think you will.

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, Ironroad said:

Please, I think you have posted negatively on this subject before and it's disappointing to have cold water being thrown on the possibility or in fact now the probability, that such a model will be announced in the near future. I understood IRM were to announce a steamer this year. Why would you want to deter them? , Not that I think you will.

 

Very well put, couldn't have done it so well myself.

I suspect that it's a case of "when" rather than "if" for an IRM-spec Irish steam loco, and I find that prospect very very exciting!

[leslie10646]

Talking of the Accurascale "Manor", when Richard McLachlan and I noted that the lads had done "ANTHONY Manor", we knew just had to buy one for Oisin, the Great Man's (ANTHONY McDonald, RIP) son. So we presented the appropriately named engine to the young man on Sunday at Blackrock.

Thanks, IRM / Accurascale for producing the perfect memorial to a simply super guy, who we all miss.

[TimO]

@DJ Dangerous I agree the Manor is a very smooth runner on DC especially after some running in. The Manor uses a NEXT18 decoder in the tender so a 21 pin decoder will not fit. I hope this answers your question.

[DJ Dangerous]

8 minutes ago, TimO said:

@DJ Dangerous I agree the Manor is a very smooth runner on DC especially after some running in. The Manor uses a NEXT18 decoder in the tender so a 21 pin decoder will not fit. I hope this answers your question.

 

Thanks, @TimO, glad I didn't waste time on that barrel of monkies.

[jhb171achill]

On 6/12/2022 at 12:03 PM, Flying Snail said:

Absolutely ... its a no brainer! Go nice with the WCIR 4-wheeler triple packs 

Surely the 5 wheeled ones might be better?

[Flying Snail]

9 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Surely the 5 wheeled ones might be better?

I know what you're at .... trying to transform them bit by bit into Midland 6 wheelers!

[Patrick Davey]

On 1/11/2023 at 3:45 PM, BosKonay said:

You never know  At least one of the new tools underway at irm towers is steamy. 

This is agonising.......... 

[BosKonay]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:51 PM, DJ Dangerous said:

 

I chose Cookham Manor because I think that's the eighties preserved livery, so ties in with the BR blue that I remember.

A tech question for @BosKonay's boys:

Will an A Class LokPilot damage Cookham Manor or will she run well on one with no damage? I'd like to be able to try her on DCC and that's the only option for the foreseeable future.

Original IRM Steam Speculation thread:

 

 

The Manor needs a next18 lokpilot as a 21 pin wouldn’t fit unfortunately 

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

The Manor needs a next18 lokpilot as a 21 pin wouldn’t fit unfortunately 

So...

Could you "speculate" ( ) as to another retailer of A/S decoders?

[BosKonay]

24 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

So...

Could you "speculate" ( ) as to another retailer of A/S decoders?

accurascale.com ?  

1 minute ago, BosKonay said:

accurascale.com ?  

Spend over €100 and we even pay the postage. 

[DJ Dangerous]

16 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

accurascale.com ?  

 

No international postage available since the Royal Mail Cyber Attack, so I'm looking for alternatives.

There are so many variants of the Next18 LokPilot that I'm confused. Looks like 59118 and 59128 are the two main ones but I can't see on the AS site which it is.

 

 

Although, I must say that Accurascale branching out and selling tampons and advertising personal trainers is a great cross-merchandising exercise, very impressed:

 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by DJ Dangerous
Added screenshots

[jhb171achill]

I’m thinking a useful, common 0.6.0 maybe, but not the J15. Many possibilities.

[leslie10646]

I think I've already told the story of the late and revered Drew Donaldson, waiting for a train at Pettigo, while other enthusiasts contemplated what might be on the next train said -

"Gawd, I'd love a P"

Well, JB, I'd love a SG3 (GNR heavy goods locos, for you youngsters).

[Georgeconna]

On 6/12/2022 at 12:37 PM, murphaph said:

Medium term I would not rule out an IRM J15 given how numerous they were.

Yep, OO works was limited in numbers. As good as it was for its time a proper one, Slightly more affordable with DCC Sound,  Controllable Lamp lights, Flicker in the Firebox, Animated crew with wave and a bit more finesse would be great, or anything in Blue!!

[Noel]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

I’m thinking a useful, common 0.6.0 maybe, but not the J15. Many possibilities.

Yes, Anything but 4-4-0 as they are generally awful runners. No 4 or x60 tender locos