RedRich Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 That is just over 10 years ago, how time has flown. The Beet wagons made a distinctive noise, you would hear them before you would see them in some instances. How much things have changed is shocking. Lot's of track lifted, Beet trains ended, no more MK111's, 141's 181's 121's, or Orange 071's. God I loved those Beet wagons. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wasn't the wagon a design that IE had thought about but scrapped the idea when it was known that Beet would no longer run on the rails. Open to correction if wrong. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Another two gems. Love 081 hauling the laden 4 wheel beets and the empty bulk beets together to shunt them in for loading. Way more then the 36TEU limit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 If you pause the video at 1:50' date=' anyone know anything about that wagon. I've never seen anything like it on the network before.[/quote'] That wagon you refer to was a one off trial build,it was intended to be a replacement for the double deck two axle wagons...but as we now all know the beet traffic didn't last, Excellent video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Another two gems. Love 081 hauling the laden 4 wheel beets and the empty bulk beets together to shunt them in for loading. Way more then the 36TEU limit there. Super stuff Railer brings back happy memories hard to belive the beet is gone 10 years now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Great videos. I am curious about the industrial complex shown on the right hand side of the screen on the January 2006 video. Can anyone shed some light on what it was and its history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josefstadt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Brilliant stuff Railer! Thanks for sharing. Patrick, Great videos. I am curious about the industrial complex shown on the right hand side of the screen on the January 2006 video. Can anyone shed some light on what it was and its history what place in the video is the are you refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiretrains Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Great videos. I am curious about the industrial complex shown on the right hand side of the screen on the January 2006 video. Can anyone shed some light on what it was and its history Is it this in this video? It's the large grain complex belonging to R & H Hall. It saw wagon-load traffic throughout the 1950s and 60s and then it later years saw container style spasmodic grain trains during the mid to late 1990s until this traffic ceased altogether. The rail connection into complex was lifted recently following the track rationalisation at Waterford station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Super stuff Railer brings back happy memories hard to belive the beet is gone 10 years now Never saw the bulk beets in action. Nice shots of 112 helping out with that. Hopefully we might see this back in 2017? Will there be a factory somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 'Off the beeten track' series of three dvds by VideoLines is excellent - covering the 1998 beet campaign. First dvd covers the empties, second covers the loaded trains, and the third dvd is a cab ride from Waterford to Wellington Bridge. I've been rewatching them over the last few days. Available from http://railwayvideo.co.uk/irish-railways.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-r Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Great videos,thanks for sharing railer, Like dc,never saw the bulk beets in action before,some wagon,anyone know where they ended up. Skinner75, didn't know these DVDs existed ,thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Skinner75, didn't know these DVDs existed ,thanks for the link. No problem - not from the usual suspects (Markle or Video125), so I was surprised when I found them too. The cab ride (vol3) is excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Now this is my recollection of beet trains ( I presume the A has failed in the first train ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 in the wellington bridge shunting , jeepers that level crossing must have spent a lot of the time closed by the way , what was the little yellow weighted wagon for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Great footage by Joe St Leger. It's likely that the A failed on the beet, although it is also possible B190 was piloting the train over a particular section. By 'weighted' wagon, I assume you're referring to the wagon at the rear of the passenger/parcels train? Looks like a standard 20ft container on a flat wagon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 by the way , what was the little yellow weighted wagon for It was a shuttle attached to a steam powered pully system under the track. It was used to move the wagons by the loading arm as they filled up. It reduced the need to have a loco slowly move the wagons as they were loaded up. It used to break down at times causing a loco to be stuck there all day just loading up wagons for others to haul. Don't think the drivers assigned to that duty were too happy when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It was a shuttle attached to a steam powered pully system under the track. It was used to move the wagons by the loading arm as they filled up. It reduced the need to have a loco slowly move the wagons as they were loaded up. It used to break down at times causing a loco to be stuck there all day just loading up wagons for others to haul. Don't think the drivers assigned to that duty were too happy when it happened. looking at the picture , its looks like the loco draws the shuttle forward and a single wire winch pulls it back. Don't think there was anything under the track. ( or maybe CIE could launch F15s from a steam catapult based in wellington bridge, now theres a conspiracy theory ) did the 141s etc have slow speed creep control ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 did the 141s etc have slow speed creep control ? No. The 071s were supplied with it but the feature was soon isolated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I thought it was steam powered, convinced I read that somewhere a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP6936 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 141s are very controllable at slow speeds anyway, without any extra gubbins. They make excellent shunting locos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Now this is my recollection of beet trains ( I presume the A has failed in the first train ) Great footage of my favourite era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 141s are very controllable at slow speeds anyway, without any extra gubbins. They make excellent shunting locos. The idea behind creep control, was that the loco didn't slow or gain speed irrespective of load ( a kind o flow speed cruise control ) , the tendency for diesel electrics is that that they slowly build up sped, requiring constant throttle adjustments other wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP6936 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The idea behind creep control, was that the loco didn't slow or gain speed irrespective of load ( a kind o flow speed cruise control ) , the tendency for diesel electrics is that that they slowly build up sped, requiring constant throttle adjustments other wise. I agree, and I think creep control is a good idea in many cases, but in the case of the 141s, working in and out of idle and notch 1 will have them creeping along anyway. You're correct, a DE does continue to load up when power is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Now this is my recollection of beet trains ( I presume the A has failed in the first train ) Great find the loose coupled beets could load to 55 wagons 780 tons between Campile (which acted as a marshalling yard for loaded bet trains) and Limerick Container wagons appear to have been regular Limerick-Waterford passenger trains including AEC railcars into the early 70s, the traffic possibly meat or dairy products for export through Waterford or Rosslare. Oliver Doyle wrote about heavy traffic in bacon carried in BR insulated FM wagons from Waterford. The B141 taking the Ballinacourty line with the short goods train is an interesting one, was she simply shunted to clear the Limerick line for a service train or a trip working to Waterford Iron Founders siding at Waterford West. The line across the viaduct to Grace Deiu Junction remained open for traffic to and from the foundry following the closure of the Waterford-Mallow line in 1967, the traffic ceased and the junction removed by the late 1970s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I walked that line both across the red bridge and down the spur to the foundry many times from about 71 to 77 , the spur was in very bad condition and the junction was gone by 75 i believe. I dont think that clip shows a loose freight about to cross bridge, I suspect its just using the line as an effective headhunt. since I went into waterford every day to go to school, I well remember the long strings of beet wagons, ( know of your fancy later designs neither ), slowly running through the station , typically pulled by a A, and occasionally a 121 or a sulzer. ( usually struggling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMMUTER29000 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Laytown - 13 January 2016 (Part 1) Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail Commuter 29000 DMU 29010 passes over the Laytown Viaduct Service: 12.30 Dublin Pearse to Drogheda Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail Commuter 29000 DMU 29029 + 29001 arrives & departs Laytown Station Service: 13.38 Drogheda to Dublin Pearse [video=youtube;Mj4q67-WV4o] Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail ICR 22000 DMU 22037 Enterprise passes Laytown Station + horn Service: 13.20 Dublin Connolly to Belfast NI Railways 3000 EMU 3003 + 3001 pass Laytown Station Service: 12.35 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly Iarnród Eireann Irish Rail Commuter 29000 DMU 29010 & ICR 22000 DMU 22052 + 22010 departs Date: 13 January 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMMUTER29000 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Laytown - 13 January 2016 (Part 2) Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail 071 loco 086 + 9 Tara Mines Ore Wagons pass Laytown Station Service: 14.00 Alexandra Road Tara Terminal to Tara Mines Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail ICR 22000 DMU 22008 + 22018 pass Laytown Station Service: Not in Service Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail Commuter 29000 DMU 29019 + 29005 depart Laytown Station Service: 14.37 Drogheda to Bray Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail ICR 22000 DMU 22044 passes over the Laytown Viaduct Service: Not in Service Iarnród Eireann Irish Rail ICR 22000 DMU 22010 + 22052 passes over the Laytown Viaduct Service: 15.15 Drogheda to Dublin Pearse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Some nice video clips. Like 086 hauling the Tara wagons and the viaduct clip. Please forgive my lack of enthusiasm for buses on rails (ICR/DMUs) that sound more like one of these than a real train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMMUTER29000 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Some nice video clips. Like 086 hauling the Tara wagons and the viaduct clip. Please forgive my lack of enthusiasm for buses on rails (ICR/DMUs) that sound more like one of these than a real train. Thanks Noel! In that case here is a video that you should find more interesting - not a railcar in sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewanderer Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 VIDEO: A rare 9ICR passenger working to Cork this evening with 22055 + 22051 + 22054 working the 2100 Heuston - Cork service. This is normally formed by a 3ICR + 4ICR formation. In Cork the sets will be split with 2X3ICR forming the 0550 Cork - Heuston & 3ICR forming the 0615 Cork - Heuston "Express". Thurs 18.02.16 Click the image below to view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMMUTER29000 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Locomotive action at Howth Junction Station and Drogheda Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail 071 loco 086 + 12 Tara Mines Ore Wagons pass Howth Junction & Donaghmede Date: 20 January 2016 Service: 14.00 Alexandra Road Tara Terminal to Tara Mines Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail 29000 DMU 29019 + DART 8100 EMU 8117 & 201 loco 206 + De Dietrich 9002 pass Drogheda Commuter Railcar Maintenance Facility Date: 3 February 2016 Service: 11.00 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail 071 loco 075 + Tara Mines Ore Wagons pass Howth Junction & Donaghmede Station Date: 20 January 2016 Service: 12.25 Tara Mines to Alexandra Road Tara Terminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The joy of youtube is the little gems that you come across every now and then like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4cKgeAUUo. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Or this Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Or these and Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) The joy of youtube is the little gems that you come across every now and then like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4cKgeAUUo. Stephen Some beautiful laminate stock on this one. Great to see A9 in black. Thanks for posting, Stephen!! Edited May 29, 2016 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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