jhb171achill Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 That is 100% outstanding work. I think that's the single most realistic genny van I've ever seen, apart from the real ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scahalane Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Happy accidents are great, that worked out really well for you. Great job well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Brilliant work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Top class model, well done. There is nothing worse that the last stage of varnishing going wrong, but sometimes it can help with weathering even though it was not planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 That's stunning, absolutely top class work. Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derry Road Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Brilliant result, great looking model. Well done. TDR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Thank you al for the great comments, it's really appreciated! I've just glued the glazing in using Rocket Odourless, which is safe to use on glazing as normal superglue would haze the windows. My next project will possibly weathering an 071, and just about to research the Plough Brake Vans, to go with the upcoming ballast wagons. I know SSM do a brake van kit, but I'm put off by a brass kit, an my soldering skills are hopeless, so I'm looking to convert a BR Shark. Might not be 100%, but hopefully will look the part. Thanks again for the comments Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 Hi All, Sorry been a bit quiet lately, but I have managed to weather a 201 and a 071. After searching Flickr for reference photos, 201s seemed pretty clean in 2005/2006, with the usual frame dirt underframe and exhaust staining. The 071 turned out slightly dirtier than I planned. Must dash for now, if anyone is interested I can write up my processes in the next few days Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Great job,particularly like 077 nice bit of grime on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo325ci Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Nice work! I've a few bits of stock that needs weathering - would love to get a walk through of how you do it, what you used etc when you have time. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Impressive weathering in particular on 077,just right and not overdone-well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 Hi All, Thank you for the comments, much appreciated! I must apologise I forgot to take step by step photos, so I keep nipping back to te models to take photos of certain bits! These are the materials I used, Humbrol Maskol Humbrol Weathering Powder AV0002 White Humbrol Weathering Powder AV0004 Smoke Humbrol Weathering Powder AV0007 Dark Earth Humbrol Weathering Powder AV0008 Rust Humbrol Metalcote 27004 Phoenix Precision P977 Rusty Rails Railmatch 402 Frame Dirt Railmatch 403 Roof Dirt Railmatch 412 Weathered Black. AK Interactive Fuel Stains I weathered both locos at the same time, as I like to reduce the amount of cleaning. If both models are having the same colour applied, then may as well do it at the same time, although I will explain both locos separately. Both models were dis-assembled as much as possible. For the 201, the body simply unclips at the four corners, and the bogie frames pull away. The 071 was a pig, with only the centre body lifting away, but the fuel tank does unscrew which does help. The cabs and bogie side frames are attached with wires, so were left in place. The fist stage I did was mask the windows with Maskol. Looking at the 201, they do seem pretty clean. I try and look at 'patterns' in a locos weathering, certain time periods, depots, workload etc. all affect the weathering. Looking at this photo of 210 from hurricanemk1c shows a fairly clean bodyside, and a flat frame dirt underframe, with a few darker patches on the underframe equipment. 210 at Limerick, August 2010 by Kieran Marshall, on Flickr Looking at the roof, that only has a exhaust mark at the No1 end, that is quite sharp, presumably where washing plants only reach so far. 205 & MK2s on 1625 Heuston-Waterford at MP17 01-May-07 by metrovick, on Flickr Staring with the body shell, the roof was masked up to create the edge of the exhaust stain. I didn't press the edge of the tape down, but let it raised slightly, so the edge wasn't crisp. The exhaust stain was made up from Railmatch 412 Weathered Black, with a few drops of the Humbrol Metalcote mixed in. The paint was airbrushed on, wafting on along the roof, until the desired effect is reached. The masking was then removed and the lower edge was treated with a waft of Railamtch 402 Frame Dirt, just enough to take the sheen off the model. Turning to the chassis, the wheels were carefully airbrushed with the frame dirt square on, to reduce the amount of overspray on the wheel treads and pickups. I then sprayed the fuel tank and the other bits with frame dirt, making many light passes from different angle to ensure there were no clean bits showing. To create the darker patches, I mixed Frame Dirt with a bit of Roof Dirt and Metalcote, and brushed on by hand following the patterns in the photo. Finally, a small amount of AK Interactive Fuel Stains around the fuel filler, streaking down and out to give it a slight wet look. Looking at the 071, they all seem to have a oily fuel tank, which catches the end of the bogies, and dark staining down the bodysides. 087 & MK3 PPull on 1325 Heuston-Limerick crossing the Curragh 21-Mar-08 by metrovick, on Flickr On the front, the exhaust extends down the cab, and on the skirt there are some lighter patches over the rails, and faded warning panels. 077 by GB56134, on Flickr With this in mind, the first job was to fade the red warning panels. I used the white weathering powder, gently brushing on with vertical steaks where possible, but came out too pink, so I brushed some of the Rust weathering powder over the top, which gave it a nice orange tinge. Unfortunately its not as fades as I had hoped, but least its not harsh and in your face. Next I sprayed the frame dirt around the bogies, fuel tank and front skirt. Across the loco front, and also the body side and cab doors got a more gentle wafting. The front skirt above the rails were dry brushed with Phoenix Precision P977 Rusty Rails, to give a different tone in that area. The roof was sprayed with Weathered Black with a few drops of Metalcote mixed in, again spraying from all different angles, as a tiny bit of orange will stick out a mile. This was also wafted down over the cab fronts, and streaked down the bodysides. The inner edges of the bogies were sprayed with Roof Dirt and a few drops of Metalcote mixed in, along with the fuel tank and buffer heads. The fuel tank was heavily streaked in the AK Fuel Stains. Finally the underframes of both locos were dusted with the Dark Earth weathering powder, and the exhausts had a dusting of the Smoke powder to create some more tones. Both locos were sealed with Testors Dullcote Spray (with the exception of the 071 fuel tanks). I hope that all makes sense, I can waffle a bit, but if anyone needs more photos/ explaining just let me know, Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Daryl,, that's one very, very serious piece of weathering, hats off to you sir, if you could do a video of your expertise it would be mega, very well done, particularely liked the 071, btb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Wow. The contrast between the pristine model and the weathered is amazing. Ultra realism how are yah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo325ci Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Thanks for that, it's well written and easily understood! Again, very nice work there and looking forward to seeing more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Thats excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craven1508 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 wow! magic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Brillient,they look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Thank you all for the comments, much appreciated! About the video, next time I weather something I might film it, not keen on the idea though as I hate the sound of my voice but will take better step by step photos Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Above is a picture of the real 3188 at the Inchicore Works open day in June 1996 you have certainly captured the wrap around paint on the ends and the B5 bogies look the business , where did you get the extended buffers from? Edited June 9, 2016 by flange lubricator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for sharing that photo of 3188. One thing I do find odd if the white stripe at the top doesn't match the cravens. The buffers ar Comet Models C42 BR extended buffers x12. Thanks again, Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 Hi All, Some progress on the Brake/Ballast van. I was planning to convert a BR 'Shark', and bought a Cambrian kit at a model show. Unfortunately they are very different, with major surgery required to get it right, so I've planned to scratch build the body. After looking for suitable donor vans, bearing in mind I would only use the chassis and roof, an LMS 20t brake van would be spot on. Unfortunately, I managed to get an LNER brake van (at £4 at a show, I couldn't say no), which is a tad too short. The model was took to bits, and the chassis stripped of pretty much everything. Fortunately there isn't much underneath, I have the ploughs from the Cambrian kit, and plan to get the J hangers/ leaf springs from MJT. This is when I found out the van was to short, so I've lengthened it. I did start making the sides, but the pillars kept snapping/ bending, unttil a mate suggested chopping the end of the van off, turning it around and making the veranda from the 'inside' of the van. I can only stress the good saying 'measure twice, cut once'. I didnt, and cut the veranda side too low, so one side has some plasticard strip to bulk it up. The pillars on the veranda are 1x1mm plasticard strip, and the inner concave part of the roof has a plasticard insert, filled and sanded smooth. On the inner end of the door/ veranda, the underside was filed down to accept a 1mm thick floor. The sides will go on the side of the floor. I didn't do my sums right and cu the side 1mm too short, so out comes the plasticard strip again! The rough side offered up in place. The large cutouts are for the windows, the two one rear half will be made up from 1x1mm plasticard strip literally before everything goes together. I plan on adding the mesh over the holes (if anyone knows where to get it from, please let me know! ), and then plop a clear plastic 'window' and secure it carefully to the mesh. Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Nice work so far. Sometimes it's just as quick to make all the body from plasticard than trying to chop up a good wagon that is only half right to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Ingenious little build, with entertaining blow by blow instructions! This should be a nice product when complete. Looking forward to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted August 8, 2016 Author Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hi All, The ballast plough is making slow progress, but getting there. It's about 80% there build wise, requiring some leaf springs and axle boxes, duckets, a roof and small details. I'm currently drawing up duckets to 3D print, as the thought of making (upto) 4 duckets all identical put me off! I will attempt to add the ducket windows into the CAD drawing, but with meshing going over the windows, I might not bother. The plough posing on the layout, the coupling hooks are MJT 2953, and need to source some brake pipes as well. The plough is from a Cambrian Shark kit. Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 This might save you a bit of grief - flattened version, just score the dotted lines, fold and glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulzer201 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Excellent production of a top rate GV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Thank you all for the replies , Glenderg, many thanks for the ducket diagram, I had a go but couldn't get on with it, but it was very helpful for the CAD model, and this has been tweaked and windows added. I've just sent those off for 3D printing, and also a generator set for the GSV. This Diesel Generator Industrail Z Scale is designed to go on the back of an Z scale flatbed wagon, but a quick measure up and it shouldn't look to bad in the GSV. Back on to the ballast plough, I've started on van No.2, this time taking a different approach, butchering up a Dapol brakevan kit (C038). Again, it wont be perfect, but the underframe looks a bit Irish, and until I can get hold of some MJT parts (that are currently out of stock) or from anywhere else, these will have to do. First job was to remove the square axle box, And replace with a modern roller bearing. These were made up from 2.4mm rod with a thin plasticard triangle over the end. There was also a fillet of plasticard added between the spring and the bearing. I also beefed up the disks below the J hanger, with some 2.4mm rod with a chunk cut out, and slipped over the hanger. The right hand one has been modified. The underframe was shortened and made up/ guessed from the (poor) instructions, and was looking good until they were offed up to the doorway/ veranda made up earlier, and the frames were too narrow. Fortunately the glue had not quite set, so the sides were prised way, which left the frame and the buffer beams. The buffer beams had the buffer back plates removed, along with the protruding pips. The bufferbeams were attached to the floor of the veranda, and the sideframes added on. This now gave me the problem of the wheelsets kept falling out! Romford bearing were added to narrow the gap down, and these were fettled and tested on a short bit of tarck until everything was snug. Unfortunatly I fogot to take photos of this but but for reference here is the bearings, Bodysides were made up in the same fashion as the previous van, appologies for the poor photos, these were quickly taken on the layout, Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Great work Daryl,the photo's are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Thanks Popeye I've had a parcel from Shapeways with the 3D printed goodies inside First up the genny set for the GSV. While not perfect, it will be a massive improvement over the mashed together bits that were inside! My photos do not do the model any justice, photographing something all white/ transparent ain't easy! And testing for size... Next up is the duckets, Looking at prototype photos, I've made the windows on the van slightly too big, so they will have to be narrowed with plasticard strip. That's all for now, Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I enjoy your innovative approach to modelling, keep posting please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The genny looks great. It will be even better painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The genny looks great.It will be even better painted. Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl43068 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Thanks for the praises guys! I've painted the genny this afternoon, will have to go over it again and fill the gaps in. Cheers Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Nice job,pity it won't be seen too much inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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