Junctionmad Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 chaps , I just realised that I have to reactivate my IrishRailModels account , but the link from 15/5 fails with " password reset error " ? dave WMRC Quote
Noel Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Dead Kennedy said: Back in black I vividly remember watching locos in that livery. Love the "tan" buffer beam. 1 Quote
Glover Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 One odd thing to note on the A class locos is the absence of a windscreen wiper over the non driving front window ( left hand side as you look at the loco). This appears to be more a feature of their earlier years; something else that didn't work on them?! I also remember reading that each loco was given an unofficial pet name; all were female names. That could provide an excuse to justify the purchase :" it's named after you, dear ". Then weather the thing!! Cheers, Glover 1 Quote
Mayner Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Glover said: One odd thing to note on the A class locos is the absence of a windscreen wiper over the non driving front window ( left hand side as you look at the loco). This appears to be more a feature of their earlier years; something else that didn't work on them?! I also remember reading that each loco was given an unofficial pet name; all were female names. That could provide an excuse to justify the purchase :" it's named after you, dear ". Then weather the thing!! Cheers, Glover Removing the wipers on the secondmans side seems to have been a common feature on both the A & C Class during the mid-late 1950s. Metropolitan Vickers electrical equipment had a very good reputation a factor that worked in favour of re-powering rather than replacing the Irish Metrovicks Possibly an economy measure to save on maintenance and stock up on spare parts when Todd Andrews was running the railways? There is the story about CIE removing half the light bulbs from the C&L "Bus Coach" as an economy measure during the same period. Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Mayner said: Removing the wipers on the secondmans side seems to have been a common feature on both the A & C Class during the mid-late 1950s. Metropolitan Vickers electrical equipment had a very good reputation a factor that worked in favour of re-powering rather than replacing the Irish Metrovicks Possibly an economy measure to save on maintenance and stock up on spare parts when Todd Andrews was running the railways? There is the story about CIE removing half the light bulbs from the C&L "Bus Coach" as an economy measure during the same period. Well i was in the cab of 001 in Heuston in the 80s and i think she was 'Nora'. Painted script between or just above the windows. Wonder if someone has the names of all 60? 3 Quote
Garfield Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Glover said: I also remember reading that each loco was given an unofficial pet name; all were female names. That could provide an excuse to justify the purchase :" it's named after you, dear ". Here they are in order (there was some duplication)... Michelle Sandra Susan Brona Mary Gillian Paula Laura Julieann Edwina Christina Deirdre Vera Alison Marina Marian Pamela Carol Debbie Frances Emma Sinead Anne Marie Kathleen Anne Marie Kimberley Clara Helan Marietta Lilly Claire Caroline Annabel Georgina Margaret Heidi Louise Catherine Sinead Grainne Barbarra Tracy Annie Michelene Jennifer Andrea Teresa Carmel Lorraine Emer Mary Breda Nora Janet Sarah Iris Roisin Bridie Karen Anne 1 1 5 Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, Garfield said: Here they are in order (there was some duplication)... Michelle Sandra Susan Brona Mary Gillian Paula Laura Julieann Edwina Christina Deirdre Vera Alison Marina Marian Pamela Carol Debbie Frances Emma Sinead Anne Marie Kathleen Anne Marie Kimberley Clara Helan Marietta Lilly Claire Caroline Annabel Georgina Margaret Heidi Louise Catherine Sinead Grainne Barbarra Tracy Annie Michelene Jennifer Andrea Teresa Carmel Lorraine Emer Mary Breda Nora Janet Sarah Iris Roisin Bridie Karen Anne Nora was 053, sorry! Quote
Colin R Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Just doing some research and I came across a loco no B113 as being the Irish prototype, so how many difference is there between the new model and this prototype and dare i ask, is the a kit of B113 anywhere? Colin Edited October 31, 2018 by Colin R Quote
Garfield Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Colin R said: Just doing so research and I came across a loco no B113 as the prototype, so how much difference is there between the new model and this prototype and dare i ask is the a kit of B113 anywhere? Colin B113 (originally 1100) was CIÉ's first Bo-Bo diesel. Both it and its sister 1101/B114 were constructed in Inchicore and had Sulzer engines, so there's no direct link between them and the A class, apart from similar traction motors and some other electrical equipment. 1 Quote
Colin R Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks Garfield. I wonder who might have some drawings of them in that case, it would be a limited market to say the least, but I fancy having one at some time. Colin Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Colin R said: Thanks Garfield. I wonder who might have some drawings of them in that case, it would be a limited market to say the least, but I fancy having one at some time. Colin 1 Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Glover said: One odd thing to note on the A class locos is the absence of a windscreen wiper over the non driving front window ( left hand side as you look at the loco). This appears to be more a feature of their earlier years; something else that didn't work on them?! I also remember reading that each loco was given an unofficial pet name; all were female names. That could provide an excuse to justify the purchase :" it's named after you, dear ". Then weather the thing!! Cheers, Glover 2 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Could be in trouble with the news of the new A's being produced 3 3 1 Quote
Mayner Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Dead Kennedy said: 1100&1100 were the first reasonably successful medium power diesel electrics designed and built in the British Isles and could be considered the forerunners of the BR Derby & BRCW Type 2 Sulzers. The British Rail locos and the B101 Class used an uprated version of the engine used in the 1100&1100 and their electrical system was considered superior to the Brush system used in the BR locos. The Inchacore built locos had a very high axleload by Irish standards and were restricted to 50mph as their plate frame bogies were rough riding and hard on the track. The 101 Class BRCW Sulzers were built with an A1A A1A wheel arrangement and fitted with drop equalising bogies to overcome the weight and riding problems of 1100&1101. Metropolitan Vickers may have gone for Crossley diesels in the A & C Class rather than the proven and reliable Sulzer engine to keep within the axle load and weight limits on the Irish system. Shapeways produce CIE Class B Sulzer designed by B Lancer. https://www.shapeways.com/product/PZZCYVXM6/cie-b-class-sulzer-locomotive-oo-scale?optionId=42321334 An Irish modeller built a batch of Sulzers to a high standard several years ago, but there about as rare as hens teeth. 1 Quote
flange lubricator Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 6 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Could be in trouble with the news of the new A's being produced I have a feeling that over the next number of months we are going to see a major sell off of silverfox/MIR A class locomotives on ebay etc Quote
Noel Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 7 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Could be in trouble with the news of the new A's being produced Thanks to helpful advice from @Warbonnet and @Glenderg four years ago, I was fortunate to only buy one of those RTR, subsequently building (assembling) two C class kits on 141 donor chassis. 45 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: I have a feeling that over the next number of months we are going to see a major sell off of silverfox/MIR A class locomotives on ebay etc I'm going to hang on to my few as they were an important part of Irish loco modelling history and were of their time. It will be nice to have one running on the layout for modelling nostalgia side by side with a fleet of IRM stunners designed by 'Sir Richard the Exact' and team IRM. It is a fantastic achievement by team IRM to get to a stage where they can realise such a major milestone and objective. 2 Quote
irishthump Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Noel said: Thanks to helpful advice from @Warbonnet and @Glenderg four years ago, I was fortunate to only buy one of those RTR, subsequently building (assembling) two C class kits on 141 donor chassis. I'm going to hang on to my few as they were an important part of Irish loco modelling history and were of their time. It will be nice to have one running on the layout for modelling nostalgia side by side with a fleet of IRM stunners designed by 'Sir Richard the Exact' and team IRM. It is a fantastic achievement by team IRM to get to a stage where they can realise such a major milestone and objective. I'll hang on to my one SF A Class. Mainly because I went through hell and high water to get the chassis running well and the lights working! But it will probably become a display model. I'll happily strip out the good motor and drive shafts, the pcb and the Loksound decoder to use in other projects! 1 Quote
irishthump Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 8 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Could be in trouble with the news of the new A's being produced Yeah you're in trouble alright, you're missing a Supertrain A. Don't worry I'll sort you out! 1 Quote
Georgeconna Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, flange lubricator said: I have a feeling that over the next number of months we are going to see a major sell off of silverfox/MIR A class locomotives on ebay etc Luckily I needed a few bob a few months back, After much deliberation I flogged off the 2 RTR ones I had and 2 bodies. Normally it does not work that way for me! Re the one Wind Screen, Que the loads of emails to IRM towers saying one wiper is missing off my Loco! there were loads of questions re the lights on the Black and Tan 141 with fellas coming in to the shop and saying only one light is working. 3 Quote
Broithe Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 40 minutes ago, Georgeconna said: there were loads of questions re the lights on the Black and Tan 141 with fellas coming in to the shop and saying only one light is working. The lights are on, but there's nobody in... 1 Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Some of these images may be useful, they are the running nos. of MVs being produced. 3 1 2 Quote
Colin R Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Now I am in trouble I like the photo of the dirty silver loco which means this could be a second mortgage for this lot ( I though I could just about allow my self three of these but the number is now creeping up) if I decide to buy those I want. Colin 1 2 Quote
jhb171achill Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Dead Kennedy said: A1 (new) A very interesting selection, Deadkennedy. The one of A42 at Rosslare* shows something that personally, I have not seen before - the dark green one WITHOUT lining. So, we now have proof that light (majority) and dark green alike had variations with and without lining. ( * I just KNEW, as I hinted in another post, that there was SOMETHING unique about A42!) 1 Quote
Irishrailwayman Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: A very interesting selection, Deadkennedy. The one of A42 at Rosslare* shows something that personally, I have not seen before - the dark green one WITHOUT lining. So, we now have proof that light (majority) and dark green alike had variations with and without lining. ( * I just KNEW, as I hinted in another post, that there was SOMETHING unique about A42!) Interesting to see the green A Class with the black/tan carriages! Quote
Eiretrains Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Irishrailwayman said: Interesting to see the green A Class with the black/tan carriages! The A42 was the loco involved in the Mullingar accident referenced below in earlier posts of this thread. The picture of it at Carlisle Pier dated 1962 I always thought may be suspect(!), given the black & tan stock, as it more reminiscent of the way the engine emerged from Inchicore post-1963 in the dark green unlined livery. This is believed to be the last A Class to remain in green in the 1960s. On 10/27/2018 at 11:59 PM, flange lubricator said: I think A42 was the last green A class ??? On 10/28/2018 at 9:14 PM, Eiretrains said: Locomotive A42 was originally in the silver as delivered and it may have retained this prior to the accident, as a few silver ones survived into early 1960s (in poor appearance as one can imagine) but I suspect if it had a livery change before then it would be green. This picture (slightly off colour) suggests dark green without lining in 1962, a year before Mullingar - date may be suspect though. I may draw attention that the dark green it did re-emerge in following the accident did not feature any lining too (like as in the picture) and it remained so until repainted into the overall black livery just prior to the re-engining programme. Edited November 1, 2018 by Eiretrains 3 Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Eiretrains said: The A42 was the loco involved in the Mullingar accident referenced below by in earlier posts of this thread. The picture of it at Carlisle Pier dated 1962 I always thought may be suspect(!), given the black & tan stock, as it more reminiscent of the way the engine emerged from Inchicore post-1963 in the dark green unlined livery. This is believed to be the last A Class to remain in green in the 1960s. Edited November 1, 2018 by Dead Kennedy A Class in background? Quote
flange lubricator Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Is that A42 ?? the damage looks different from this picture http://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000148612/Home?lookfor=a42&submit=Apply Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: Is that A42 ?? the damage looks different from this picture http://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000148612/Home?lookfor=a42&submit=Apply 37 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: Is that A42 ?? the damage looks different from this picture http://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000148612/Home?lookfor=a42&submit=Apply 1 Quote
Georgeconna Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 23 hours ago, Dead Kennedy said: Nora was 053, sorry! damn no Mandy either, I'll have think of another present for her for xmas then... Quote
Dead Kennedy Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 You could introduce Mandy to one of the 60 beauties above but we're going off track here 1 Quote
heirflick Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 On 10/31/2018 at 10:07 PM, Broithe said: Will anyone be producing transfers? Don't ask about Georgina..... 2 Quote
heirflick Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Dead Kennedy said: A1 (new) I have just wet myself! Fantastic selection of liveries - never to be seen again except in model form! Fair play to the boyos in IRM! 1 Quote
Broithe Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, heirflick said: Don't ask about Georgina..... No mention of a 'Karen' - did they save that until the 201 came along? 1 Quote
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