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31 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Just looking at them, the gap between coupled coaches is huge. Is there a way of amending the couplings, I wonder, to close that enormous gap?

its pretty bad, it really is. 

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Finally, they're here. There was a hiccup during the customs payment but thankfully things resolved themselves and now these coaches are mine. Now I just need to pick up something that could run them!

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46 minutes ago, Darrman said:

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Finally, they're here. There was a hiccup during the customs payment but thankfully things resolved themselves and now these coaches are mine. Now I just need to pick up something that could run them!

Enjoy them!

You should have picked up a 00 Works J15 when they were on sale!

HE HAS ONE OF NO. 125 AND NO.146 REMAINING

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These are very nice models. I only got a couple (B&T van and light green brake 2nd) and am sort of regretting that I didn't go for more. They arrived two weeks ago but being away with my work has meant that I have only recently been able to fit Kadees and add a few passengers to the brake. They run nicely, though admittedly my test track and the layout under construction don't have many or tight curves. The centre wheels are pretty easy to land on the track. To get the roof off, all I had to do was run a fingernail along the join between roof and bodyside and then it was straightforward to lift the roof up and off.

Must weather the B&T van a bit, but it looks pretty good behind 190 and a Cravens as it is.

 

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On 14/11/2022 at 4:15 PM, Georgeconna said:

Can't see anything on the Website that suggest the numbers? Weird, I don't want to end up with Duplicates.

This was the original idea which I was told would happen, weeks only before Hattons expired.

I ordered one of everything bar the 4-coach set. The idea initially discussed was that some might just buy the set, but if they wanted another third, another van, or another anything, they’d get a different vehicle number.

If someone has the 4-coach set, pist up the vehicle numbers and I will check if they’re the same.

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49 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

If someone has the 4-coach set, pist up the vehicle numbers and I will check if they’re the same.

The numbers are, all 3rd 439 & 454, 1st/3rd 541, 3rd/Guard 98. (not easy to read and I'm nearsighted)

As I recollect at the point of ordering I was satisfied that the running numbers of the four coach set did not duplicate the numbers of those sold singly.

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9 hours ago, Ironroad said:

As I recollect at the point of ordering I was satisfied that the running numbers of the four coach set did not duplicate the numbers of those sold singly.

Same. I don't order duplicates any more, preferring to wait for a re-run. I would have also checked the running numbers before pulling the trigger and I ordered the box set and all the individual ones except the B&T which is out of era for me. Mine are sitting in the post office back home waiting for me to return and pay the vat.

 

 

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8 hours ago, murphaph said:

Mine are sitting in the post office back home waiting for me to return and pay the vat.

Remember you have limited time to pay the VAT or the parcel is returned to sender.   You can pay VAT on line at www.anpost.ie

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8 hours ago, murphaph said:

I would have also checked the running numbers before pulling the trigger and I ordered the box set and all the individual ones except the B&T which is out of era for me.

When I supplied the historical info to Hattons for these, I sent them a list of several alternative numbers for each vehicle type. With their demise nbow, and not having ordered a set of 4, I was therefore unsure whether they had actually used them all or not.

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13 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Remember you have limited time to pay the VAT or the parcel is returned to sender.   You can pay VAT on line at www.anpost.ie

Cheers Colin but home is Germany for me. Having said that they also return them to sender after a week and we have no nice option to pay online like An Post. Cash at the door or they take them to the local post office for you to collect yourself. An Post is way more customer orientated in this regard.

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On 27/10/2024 at 5:45 PM, Patrick Davey said:

Love the Genesis coaches but they are noticeably smaller compared to more specific Irish stock, as can be seen in @Jarl’s bottom photo above.  Mixing them with other vehicles might not look right……

I shouldn't worry about that much. I haven't got access to my books here but after a bit of googling, found an image of 2 x 6 wheelers and bogie stock and there's a significant height difference between the two.

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Installed 1 lighting kit there. Seems the capacitor is not charging, for whatever reason. I tried installing a DCC decoder, but still no capacitor function. Anybody experienced the same?

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On 27/10/2024 at 12:45 PM, Patrick Davey said:

Love the Genesis coaches but they are noticeably smaller compared to more specific Irish stock, as can be seen in @Jarl’s bottom photo above.  Mixing them with other vehicles might not look right……

They will probably look good relative to the track😁

On 2/11/2024 at 5:43 AM, Sea Breezer said:

Installed 1 lighting kit there. Seems the capacitor is not charging, for whatever reason. I tried installing a DCC decoder, but still no capacitor function. Anybody experienced the same?

It should be getting power directly from the track. Try another coach to troubleshoot, whether it’s the pickup or the lighting kit.

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43 minutes ago, Sea Breezer said:

Somebody more electro-savvy than me might be able to answer.. What is this?

Cheers

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That's a capacitor - holds a charge, to keep the lights running in case of dead spots on the track

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35 minutes ago, skinner75 said:

That's a capacitor - holds a charge, to keep the lights running in case of dead spots on the track

That’s what I thought.. But have a look at the last few posts 🤔

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On 1/11/2024 at 7:24 PM, minister_for_hardship said:

I shouldn't worry about that much. I haven't got access to my books here but after a bit of googling, found an image of 2 x 6 wheelers and bogie stock and there's a significant height difference between the two.

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EXACYLY! If anyone has a model Park Royal, eg the old IFM one, as far as I can see its dimensions are correct. It looks like 800 beside 90 when sat beside a SSM (scale) GSWR six wheeler. 

Same with older bogies. Very much lower roofs than anything built after around 1912/15.

One of the many reasons why in the pre-1972 days, trains looked such a mish mash to those accustomed to sleek Mk 2 sets with zero variation.

And, the reason why so many of our older enthusiasts would see passenger trains from the 1960s/80s onwards as bland. Never any more than one body shape. Before 1965, you’d go a long way to see a train with even two vehicles alike!

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This photo from Jonathan Allen on Flickr shows a 1970s train comprised of CIE stock but still with a remarkable range of carriage shapes:

161 at Broomhedge | I mention elsewhere the 400mm lens Jim E… | Flickr

Mk1, Cravens, Park Royal, Laminate, and the more conventional wooden-bodied 1950s CIE stock.

Admittedly still more uniform than the days when 6-wheelers or clerestory coaches would turn up, but that was before my time!

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6 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

This photo from Jonathan Allen on Flickr shows a 1970s train comprised of CIE stock but still with a remarkable range of carriage shapes:

161 at Broomhedge | I mention elsewhere the 400mm lens Jim E… | Flickr

Mk1, Cravens, Park Royal, Laminate, and the more conventional wooden-bodied 1950s CIE stock.

Admittedly still more uniform than the days when 6-wheelers or clerestory coaches would turn up, but that was before my time!

And there you have it. An Enterprise the way I remember; nine vehicles of seven types. 

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