Galteemore Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, murphaph said: It's an Alphagrahix kit right? It should have the clearance under the splashers to be rebuilt to the proper gauge in that case. Is that correct? It should. Having built 3 Alphagraphix loco to 5’3”, though, great care has to be taken in the construction process to ensure clearances, esp on a loco as tiny as Argadeen. If the original builder hasn’t pushed the splasher width to the max, could be a tricky proposition. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 12 hours ago, Garfield said: A nice model of the Timoleague & Courtmacsherry Light Railway's 'Argadeen'. I'm not sure how authentic the lined green livery is, though. Argadeen appears to be in GSR post 1929 condition with "Imps" boiler, though looks very pretty in lined green. I seriously thought of getting rid of my 4mm stuff and building an O Scale T&C layout several years ago, 1-2 locos, 1-2 coaches available as kits and 10 wagons and an easier scale to work in than 4mm when your getting on a bit! . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mayner said: Argadeen appears to be in GSR post 1929 condition with "Imps" boiler, though looks very pretty in lined green. I seriously thought of getting rid of my 4mm stuff and building an O Scale T&C layout several years ago, 1-2 locos, 1-2 coaches available as kits and 10 wagons and an easier scale to work in than 4mm when your getting on a bit! . I’m always contemplating doing that as well. There is a bandon tank, an F6, a J26, J30, Agrideen and mologa in “big” scale I hear rumours of a C class 3D print too and as you say, plenty of coaches the only thing holding me back is building the stock….and the track! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 If it's in post-1929 condition, and if accuracy is desired, all-over grey is the only show in town. It was never black. I'm still, out of interest, trying to track down what way it was decorated on delivery........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Are people out of their damn minds? What do they be smoking? https://www.ebay.es/itm/314176155413 €400 plus taxes and shipping for A46. @murphaph has an A46 for sale for less than half that price! Jaysus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Have you seen what old Nintendo stuff goes for?!?!? (doesn't mean that they'll get it, but the rare games market is crazy) https://www.ebay.es/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=nintendo+rare&_sacat=0&_sop=16 Edited October 6, 2022 by skinner75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, skinner75 said: Have you seen what old Nintendo stuff goes for?!?!? https://www.ebay.es/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=nintendo+rare&_sacat=0&_sop=16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 4 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Are people out of their damn minds? What do they be smoking? https://www.ebay.es/itm/314176155413 €400 plus taxes and shipping for A46. @murphaph has an A46 for sale for less than half that price! Jaysus! Now you know why people buy more than one of each model. One to keep, the rest to flog on for a quick buck.... That's what happened to Bachmann's NRM Prototype Deltic, and the London Underground S-stock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 We can always make more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, BosKonay said: We can always make more! You could. Either: 1. The bottom will drop out of the market; or 2. The eBay floggers will continue to buy up stock in order to protect values (see Prototype Deltic and LU S-stock above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BosKonay said: We can always make more! Not until after your 071's, please! Are you going to do a 319 Retales variant of the 071? Might be a risky one in 1:76 but I'd definitely take a few. My 1:87 one looks like a midget. Edited October 6, 2022 by DJ Dangerous 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 15 hours ago, skinner75 said: Have you seen what old Nintendo stuff goes for?!?!? (doesn't mean that they'll get it, but the rare games market is crazy) https://www.ebay.es/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=nintendo+rare&_sacat=0&_sop=16 Up until recently, the most expensive video game item was 32,000 for a sealed copy is super Mario Bros (1985). Now it’s up to 2 or 3 million. the main change seems to be a heavy dos of money laundering next they’ll be money laundering with 071’s! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 17 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Are people out of their damn minds? What do they be smoking? https://www.ebay.es/itm/314176155413 €400 plus taxes and shipping for A46. @murphaph has an A46 for sale for less than half that price! ***sus! Smoking kit-kat's perhaps? We live in an imperfect world, free enterprise generates the wealth that feeds and shelters all of us, but free market forces throw up the odd anomaly. Thankfully I doubt neither the seller or buyer will need to visit a food bank anytime soon. First world problems? Toy choo-choos can make even the most rational of us do strange things at times. In a moment of lust and weakness I paid what was then considered a high price of €140 for an MM 141 about 4 years ago. Two weeks later I bought another from Dave Bracken for €105 which was about the market level back then and a fair price. Win/Win buyer and seller happy. I shudder to think what my 141s might fetch now on crazybay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I have less sympathy for people paying extortionate prices for Irish models now than at any time in the past. We have active RTR manufacturers of high quality stock and motive power. Yes, you need to be a little patient and you need to have your pennies saved for the releases when they come, but they do come, on a regular basis now with IRM too. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, murphaph said: I have less sympathy for people paying extortionate prices for Irish models now than at any time in the past. We have active RTR manufacturers of high quality stock and motive power. Yes, you need to be a little patient and you need to have your pennies saved for the releases when they come, but they do come, on a regular basis now with IRM too. Exactly this - I don't have any layout, but I am still buying the IRM releases as they come out. I'd be a right eejit to not buy them when they are released, and then in X years time when I have a layout, have a whinge about crazy secondhand prices when IRM have sold out!! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Same here. No layout but buying what I need for the layout I want to build. I did go a bit mad at the beginning buying duplicates to renumber, for example I have a second rake of both ferts and kegs that I will be looking to sell and replace with the new IRM ones with updated running numbers. But I learned my lesson and now I limit myself to one of each item and wait for the rerun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 It's not just video games or railway models, people are buying and selling Pokemon cards, designer clothes and even sports shoes, basically buying them with the intent of flipping them for a profit.. Probably the most notable one in recent years was the PS5, where you had parents desperate to get one for Christmas presents while scalpers tried to sell them for 3x what they paid for them! I'm not sure where the trend has come from, but social media has definitely fuelled the trend and I think some of it generational with Gen Xers preferring to be seen as "Entrepeneur" for doing this shit rather than just putting the head down and doing actual work.. As Stephen said, manufacturers can squeeze out the scalpers by producing more stock/new releases, but some brands are fully aware of what is going on an actively promote it by issuing limited editions on a monthly basis.. Want to know how crazy the world is, watch this, anyone for a packet of Oreos for $91K! https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissakravitz/2020/02/20/supreme-oreos-are-selling-for-4000-on-ebay/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, MOGUL said: It's not just video games or railway models, people are buying and selling Pokemon cards, designer clothes and even sports shoes, basically buying them with the intent of flipping them for a profit.. Probably the most notable one in recent years was the PS5, where you had parents desperate to get one for Christmas presents while scalpers tried to sell them for 3x what they paid for them! I'm not sure where the trend has come from, but social media has definitely fuelled the trend and I think some of it generational with Gen Xers preferring to be seen as "Entrepeneur" for doing this shit rather than just putting the head down and doing actual work.. As Stephen said, manufacturers can squeeze out the scalpers by producing more stock/new releases, but some brands are fully aware of what is going on an actively promote it by issuing limited editions on a monthly basis.. Want to know how crazy the world is, watch this, anyone for a packet of Oreos for $91K! https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissakravitz/2020/02/20/supreme-oreos-are-selling-for-4000-on-ebay/ digital property is the most mind boggling…..paying for non tangible items I can’t wrap my head around….shame as I’m sure we could all make some serious money if we knew! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Yeah, the whole NFT takes it to a whole new level.. No to bomb the thread with youtube links, but this is the best/funniest take on it I've seen.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 https://www.ebay.ie/itm/314176163092 The IE ballast ploughs went for €170 + shipping. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) When Seamus Graham told me years ago that way back when the MM 141/181s were first released, he had some customers who bought 4 of every single running number, I didn't believe such was possible but I certainly do now. The country was in the depths of the global financial crisis at the time. Who has that kind of money to spare, especially to take a punt on what are basically toys for the boys. What size layouts can utilise more than 15-25 locos on track? What's the point in having stuff hidden away in boxes except for future planned layouts? or ISUEOL (in storage until end of life), in perfect condition for next owner who buys for a song (executors sale). Personally for me models are to be operated and played with, yet I confess have some special items stored away too, only brought onto the layout for special occasions (eg J15, AEC 2600, etc). Its a free world. Enjoy collecting and/or playing. Edited October 7, 2022 by Noel type due lexdysia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Seamus did not mention my name, did he? 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Seamus did not mention my name, did he? Or my 39….. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 6 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Seamus did not mention my name, did he? No, He said 4 of every running number not 10 Nice collection. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said: digital property is the most mind boggling…..paying for non tangible items I can’t wrap my head around….shame as I’m sure we could all make some serious money if we knew! Emperor's New Clothes. You own it, but you don't own it. Smoke and mirrors. It could disappear if someone presses the wrong button. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Horsetan said: Emperor's New Clothes. You own it, but you don't own it. Smoke and mirrors. It could disappear if someone presses the wrong button. Indeed! Give me 121s. As, J15s and 141s any day! On 6/10/2022 at 11:02 PM, DJ Dangerous said: Not until after your 071's, please! Are you going to do a 319 Retales variant of the 071? Might be a risky one in 1:76 but I'd definitely take a few. My 1:87 one looks like a midget. What is that loco on the left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: What is that loco on the left? Class 319, Subseries 2, numbers 201 to 220, known affectionately as "Retales". Retales has two meanings; "patchwork" and "scrap metal". The 319's were built using a patchwork of 071 style bits from GM, and the scrap metal / remains of the original Class 319's. The original 319's had a single cab, about two thirds of the way along the body. Great performers but were terrible for rust, so instead of being completely scrapped, they were torn apart and rebuilt in the Subseries 2 locos. I think that most of them were sold and exported to Argentina, but there are still a few skulking around: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 An 071 hauling easily twice what they do here….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: An 071 hauling easily twice what they do here….. They sound more like 121's, though: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 11:31 AM, jhb171achill said: An 071 hauling easily twice what they do here….. To be fair to our 071s, the Retales have an extra 4 cylinders, they have a 16Cyl instead of the 12 in the 071s.. Also, although our liners are short, they tend to be heavy as they move a lot of liquid in tanks.. More conventional container traffic like above, even though a longer train would likely weight less.. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 11:42 PM, DJ Dangerous said: They sound more like 121's, though: A completely different design of loco to the 071s apart from the cab ends! As Mogul notes they have a 1870hp 16cyl engine rather that the 12cyl in to 071 The "Retales" appear to have an 567CR non-turbo engines which explains why they appear to sound like the 121. Max speed 74.4mph less powerful than on 071 Approx 13 tons heavier with a similar traffic effort which would have made a Retales more suitable for heavy freight work & less prone to slipping than an 071 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renfe_Class_319_(later_versions) Basically EMD used standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, Mayner said: A completely different design of loco to the 071s apart from the cab ends! Yup: On 8/10/2022 at 2:12 AM, DJ Dangerous said: Class 319, Subseries 2, numbers 201 to 220, known affectionately as "Retales". Retales has two meanings; "patchwork" and "scrap metal". The 319's were built using a patchwork of 071 style bits from GM, and the scrap metal / remains of the original Class 319's. The original 319's had a single cab, about two thirds of the way along the body. Great performers but were terrible for rust, so instead of being completely scrapped, they were torn apart and rebuilt in the Subseries 2 locos. I think that most of them were sold and exported to Argentina, but there are still a few skulking around: Don't worry, @Mayner, I forgive you for missing that - reading is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 A46 allegedly sold for €399 + shipping: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/314185648038 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, murphaph said: A46 allegedly sold for €399 + shipping: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/314185648038 I rememember a certain forum member selling one for half that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Less than half that! And he still has it for sale, I think? If so, I might buy it from him and sell it for €400 on eBay. I'm sure they bought it themselves using another profile in order to inflate prices, there has to be some con going on there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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