IRM Bakes Some Danish Delights As We Team Up With Heljan To Deliver Oil Tankers

[ttc0169]

2 hours ago, ttc0169 said:

18+ 2 barrier wagons -I’ll check my guards journal from that period to confirm numbers. 

  My Guards journal from 2001…..

 

[flange lubricator]

17 minutes ago, MOGUL said:

The magnesite used tank wagons, but the Foynes to Ballina Coal/Oil was actually 20ft tank containers on flat wagons

The Esso wagons were much bigger too 15'0" wheelbase and 25'2 1/2"length and 27'8 1/2" over buffers with a 6000 Gallon capacity .

[flange lubricator]

Nice footage of the Esso liner on the Sligo line from 3.00

 

[Colin_McLeod]

5 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

Underside of the model:

From IRM teaser. 

Edited December 4 by Colin_McLeod

[Ironroad]

A picture published Jun '71 IRRS JNL (no. 55) of a Charles Roberts ESSO tank wagon arriving at North Wall. This photo was  originally posted on this site by josefstadt in the Irish Shell & BP thread Dec 17 2014.

 

 

[flange lubricator]

23/03/2002 128+135 on the Up Esso Liner From Sligo to North Wall passes Lough Owel between Edgeworthstown and Mullingar.

[ttc0169]

2 hours ago, ttc0169 said:

  My Guards journal from 2001…..

 

02/12/2002 we have a 201 class  locomotive 210-note the 47’ empty barrier wagon 30273 behind 210

[flange lubricator]

5 minutes ago, ttc0169 said:

02/12/2002 we have a 201 class  locomotive 210-note the 47’ empty barrier wagon 30273 behind 210

I think I was out that day in Clara it ran in daylight hours on Monday about lunchtime. 

[murphaph]

Bullet bit. One of each set ordered. I'm sure I'll figure out a way to widen them  Are EU deliveries not free anymore or is that just a glitch? The order process says €7.50 delivery charges are due.

[derek]

Tell me this is a silly/ childish question, but does the word "Esso" actually appear anywhere on these tankers. Just asking............

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, murphaph said:

The order process says €7.50 delivery charges are due.

 

Excellent...

 

 

[minister_for_hardship]

9 minutes ago, derek said:

Tell me this is a silly/ childish question, but does the word "Esso" actually appear anywhere on these tankers. Just asking............

It did, two large esso ovals , 1 per side that were removed subsequently. You can see the oval shaped set of anchor points that held them on in later photos before those too were removed.

Edited December 4 by minister_for_hardship

[Mol_PMB]

Anyone fancy doing a repaint?

(photo posted by @seagoebox in a different thread a couple of years back)

[flange lubricator]

3 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

Anyone fancy doing a repaint?

(photo posted by @seagoebox in a different thread a couple of years back)

You can clearly see the mounting brackets for the esso signs . 

[Davenport]

Edited December 4 by Davenport
Question

[MOGUL]

1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said:

Anyone fancy doing a repaint?

(photo posted by @seagoebox in a different thread a couple of years back)

The short lived operation desert storm livery.. And the result of such an easy mix up, if only the nice chap with the U.K. accent who called asking if they could have the tanks back that they had sent over in the 60s had realised he was talking to CIE instead of the FCA!

[flange lubricator]

Here is a lovely picture of the wagons on the Alexandra Road in Dublin.

 

[Robert Shrives]

Great news. some where on here in my lock down wagon thread is my effort with the Dapol kit and Westy  etches.   

but are these the same as etches go further along the barrel? I was musing on mine being suitable to fill out a train, but having realised I had done them as loco fuel tanks then I guess it is time to select and organ and get an order in!

Edited December 4 by Robert Shrives

[ttc0169]

And three packs duly ordered......... thank you IRM and Heljan....

[chris]

4 hours ago, flange lubricator said:

Here is a lovely picture of the wagons on the Alexandra Road in Dublin.

 

when can we expect a model of that diesel mechanical loco then?

[Mayner]

Speed limits/in service modifications.

The ESSO tank wagons were introduced into service with their original UK style tank mounting and ESSO shield, and included Class A, the Class B with shorter barrel and Bitumen tankers all on the same chassis. I have a photo of a Bitumen tanker complete with ESSO logo stored/dumped at the Point in the early 80s.

Although initially allowed to run at 50mph speed for these tankers  was gradually reduced to 35mph as a result  of a series of de-railments of empty tank wagons during the late 70s-80s. Donomon Co Roscommon date un-known, Moyvalley 21 Aug 83 (up Sligo Oil).

North Wall-Oranmore-Claremorris-North Wall ESSO Oil trains

The North Wall-Oranmore-Claremorris-North Wall oil train appears to be a short lived twice weekly service which appears to have started in the Mid-70s and ceased late 70s-early 80s. The ESSO Oranmore terminal was served by a new loop off the main line disconnected by early 80s, possibly as a result of a re-organisation of ESSO distribution in Ireland

Claremorris Traffic.

This traffic ran attached to the Claremorris Liner which would have been routed via Tullamore and Portarlington from the late 70s, when the Up Asahi became the only freight scheduled over the Mullingar-Athlone section of the Midland Line. 

6 ESSO tanks were attached to the rear of the (mainly Guinness' Liner when I last saw the train in July 2005.

The ESSO trains ceased to carry petrol & highly flammabe (Class A) products as a result of updates in Hazardous Substance legislation as a result of which they basically became obsolete.

 

21mm Gauge conversion.

Converting the Heljan tank wagons to 21mm gauge is likely to involve widening the existing chassis to provide sufficient width (26mm) between inside face of axleguards to accommodate 21mm EMF profile wheelsets.

These days a completely new 3D printed chassis in an engineering resin with ABS properties or printed in metal such as aluminium would be a better option than trying to widen a plastic injection molded chassis cast in a material that is difficult to glue.

About 25 years ago I assembled a rake of 21mm gauge 'ESSO' Tank wagons from Dapol kits principal modifications involved moving the kit solebars out 1mm on each side and extending the barrel at each end. Main issue was that the difficulty in achieving a reliable glued joint between solebar-packer-chassis lead to un-reliable running and failures. 

Ironically the steadiest running wagon used a 'standard'  OO/EM profile wheelset on a 26mm axle with the wheels pushed out to 21mm gauge, running on MJT inside bearing compensation units.

Using 3D printing as an option printing should ideally be carried out on a high format full size machine capable of printing in an engineering resin or metal, I have found out from bitter experience that a desktop printer may not be up to such work.

I used a freelance 3D modeler and a New Zealand based printer for the design and prototyping of the 20T Brake van and other models, but ended up using Far Eastern printers because the business that successfully produced our prototypes considered printing small scale models not worth the hassle and other businesses (overseas and local) struggled to achieve an acceptable print quality.

 

[leslie10646]

Ah, wildly after my period - I live to fight again!

[NIRCLASS80]

Duly ordered. Nice little release. Thanks IRM

[DJ Dangerous]

Ordered via A/S website instead of IRM website as a test, pricing worked out identical, to the cent.

Will these ship to customers before, alongside, or after, the H Vans and Grain Wagons?

[BosKonay]

43 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Ordered via A/S website instead of IRM website as a test, pricing worked out identical, to the cent.

Will these ship to customers before, alongside, or after, the H Vans and Grain Wagons?

They are all coming in together on the same ship.

[leslie10646]

Wot? No wagons before Christmas?

What are the family going to put in my stocking?

[DJ Dangerous]

20 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

They are all coming in together on the same ship.

 

Aaaaaanything else of interest on that same ship?

 

1 minute ago, leslie10646 said:

Wot? No wagons before Christmas?

What are the family going to put in my stocking?

 

Coal!

[minister_for_hardship]

15 hours ago, leslie10646 said:

Ah, wildly after my period - I live to fight again!

Likewise. Bank account breathes sigh of relief.

[Mol_PMB]

38 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

They are all coming in together on the same ship.

I have visions of a vessel the size of the Ever Given with every container full of Accurascale and IRM products!

[leslie10646]

Mind you, I can possibly help with barrier wagons -

You don't have to have the container.

[Mol_PMB]

3 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

Mind you, I can possibly help with barrier wagons -

You don't have to have the container.

Yes please! I was hoping that IRM would announce the 22’ container flats, but in the meantime some of yours and John’s earlier 20’ variants would be very welcome. 

[MOGUL]

4 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Aaaaaanything else of interest on that same ship?

 

 

Coal!

That would be telling but we do have your coal needs covered 

https://www.accurascale.com/en-eu/products/real-coal-loads-for-mdo-v-wagons?srsltid=AfmBOor2Iv7Iw7nQ0KqOT1dWgP46fb_akb-G-HM_5qz0JcuxYI-8lNkx

[mphoey]

mine ordered going to be a lot of freight deliveries in janruary to everyone . how to hide from the wifes is the next trick

[MOGUL]

7 minutes ago, mphoey said:

mine ordered going to be a lot of freight deliveries in janruary to everyone . how to hide from the wifes is the next trick

We can put them all in one big box for you, so you only have to explain yourself once 

[DJ Dangerous]

4 minutes ago, MOGUL said:

We can put them all in one big box for you, so you only have to explain yourself once 

 

That's exactly what I'm hoping for!

Customs up in Madrid are more deadly than @mphoey's wife could possibly be.