Murphy Models Mk2d

[popeye]

Just received an email from Hattons informing me the these coaches have been cancelled from production.

I don't know why or if they have been postponed.

[Wexford70]

Received the same email.

Am very disappointed.

Edited July 25, 2023 by Wexford70

[DJ Dangerous]

I wonder if he's just postponing the Mk2D's, or has decided to retail exclusively through the IRM shop / Irish retailers and cut Hatton's out?

[Westcorkrailway]

It might be hattons overestimating how many they were actually gonna get from MM…I have heard they have done that before 

 

it’s either that or they were straight up canceled? I could have sworn there were pre production samples at raheeny last October 

 

does anyone have a screenshot of the email?

[Sean]

I didnt actually realise we were waiting for additional mk2d's lol

 

Perhaps thats a good point as I dont recall hattons making ANY mention of the upcoming 141's, are they still listing the mk3's as upcoming?

[DJ Dangerous]

9 minutes ago, Sean said:

I didnt actually realise we were waiting for additional mk2d's lol

 

Perhaps thats a good point as I dont recall hattons making ANY mention of the upcoming 141's, are they still listing the mk3's as upcoming?

 

They haven't removed the Mk2D's or Mk3's from their website, yet.

[Sean]

Perhaps "a man we know" can investigate the true story here and bring us the inside scoop from wexford street.

[WRENNEIRE]

Stop Press!
Spoke to a man from Wexford St
Mk 2's should be here Q4
141's/181s (9) hopefully Q4 also
When these 2 projects are finished there are several others for 2024, details to be announced hopefully at the 3 day show in October
The things I do for you people  

[skinner75]

Shame Murphy's Models website hasn't been updated in a long long time

[Bob229]

39 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Stop Press!
Spoke to a man from Wexford St
Mk 2's should be here Q4
141's/181s (9) hopefully Q4 also
When these 2 projects are finished there are several others for 2024, details to be announced hopefully at the 3 day show in October
The things I do for you people  

Brilliant,     Thank you for the update 

[WRENNEIRE]

43 minutes ago, skinner75 said:

Shame Murphy's Models website hasn't been updated in a long long time

One man show
I think his phone still has a rotary dial?

[Flying Snail]

... and breathe!

Phew, I was worried there for a little while. Good to see all's still on track 

[DJ Dangerous]

3 hours ago, Flying Snail said:

on track

 

I see what you did there!

I wonder will it be Mk2D samples in Q4 or will it be the actual stock going on sale...

Gonna be a difficult Christmas even if it's one or the other, but both? Man, I wonder how much a nice tent costs.

[Niles]

7 hours ago, Flying Snail said:

... and breathe!

Phew, I was worried there for a little while. Good to see all's still on track 

 

[Noel]

Wonder if the MM mk3s are still on the radar?

[DJ Dangerous]

11 hours ago, Noel said:

Wonder if the MM mk3s are still on the radar?

 

Hopefully, somebody can pin Paddy down at the October show and get a feel for what's likely to happen, and when.

I'd guess that the Mk3's are an even bigger project than the Mk2D's, requiring a huge amount of research, design, and new tooling.

Almost sure that Paddy replied to an email of mine a year or so back, saying that he was looking into 21mm-friendly bogies, too.

EDIT:

Just to clarify, it was March 2021 when I received the email reply from Paddy Murphy, and he did not guarantee 21mm-friendly bogies.

His exact words were:

"We are looking at the bogie situation."

I don't want to make it sound like he guaranteed it or anything like that.

Edited July 26, 2023 by DJ Dangerous
Added Clarifiction

[Westcorkrailway]

????

not so much of interest for my era but im sure this is of great interest…

Edited August 7, 2023 by Westcorkrailway

[DJ Dangerous]

7 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

????

not so much of interest for my era but im sure this is of great interest…

 

Just got the same email.

Twelve models currently listed:

https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklist/siteresults?search/scales/OO/brands/Murphy Models/sub-types/CIE Mark 2D/liveries/Irish Rail | Iarnród Éireann/stockstatus/all

Please, please, please don't let everything arrive all at once!

MM Mk2D's, MM 141 / 181 re-run, IRM Park Royals, Hatton's Genesis coaches, Heljan Mk2's...

Shit!

[BosKonay]

Of note the now accurately wide bogies. 

[Tarabuses]

Wasn't it only 2 weeks ago that Hattons said these coaches had been cancelled from production?

[Niles]

Interesting that MM appear to be re-running the Galway restaurant and EGV, a win for consumers but perhaps not for ebay dealers.

[Gabhal Luimnigh]

2 hours ago, Tarabuses said:

Wasn't it only 2 weeks ago that Hattons said these coaches had been cancelled from production?

Yep 

[Leyny]

The photos on the Hattons site don't seem to match the descriptions. All are shown in CIE Supertrain livery but the descriptions are all for IR/IE liveries, no? Will any of this batch be in Supertrain livery does anyone know? 

[Flying Snail]

I'm not aware of any decorated samples having been shown off to the public so I'd go with the livery descriptions for now. Those photos on Hattons are of previous runs (Yes the photos are supertrain livery)

Edited August 7, 2023 by Flying Snail

[Sean]

I have been under the impression it will be these two livery types (obviously the mkd versions)

 

I dont think theres more supertrain coming.

[DJ Dangerous]

1 hour ago, Leyny said:

The photos on the Hattons site don't seem to match the descriptions. All are shown in CIE Supertrain livery but the descriptions are all for IR/IE liveries, no? Will any of this batch be in Supertrain livery does anyone know? 

 

Hatton's photos say:

 

 

[Leyny]

5 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Hatton's photos say:

 

 

Good spot DJ, my rapidly deteriorating eyesight missed that. I tell ya I wouldn't recommend this getting old lark to anyone...

[ganderino]

Will IRM be stocking these when they come out?

[Flying Snail]

Hatton's have just announced details of the upcoming 141/181s now too .... due sometime between Nov and Feb apparently

(and the pictures are from previous runs too )

Edited August 8, 2023 by Flying Snail

[NIRCLASS80]

On 7/8/2023 at 11:50 AM, BosKonay said:

Of note the now accurately wide bogies. 

Will IRM stock these coaches?

[Niles]

On 7/8/2023 at 8:13 PM, Flying Snail said:

I'm not aware of any decorated samples having been shown off to the public so I'd go with the livery descriptions for now. Those photos on Hattons are of previous runs (Yes the photos are supertrain livery)

There were some on display at the Raheny show last October, definitely some with the 'IR' branding (like this one https://flic.kr/p/x8cNNf )

[Flying Snail]

2 hours ago, Niles said:

There were some on display at the Raheny show last October, definitely some with the 'IR' branding (like this one https://flic.kr/p/x8cNNf )

There were? Excellent!! Looking forward to getting a rake of these

TBH I don't remember seeing any Mk2Ds at the show,  I only remember the 141/181s ... they had my full attention 

[Sean]

these 12 pre orders just popped up on the Marks Models site, due date and price.

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, Sean said:

these 12 pre orders just popped up on the Marks Models site, due date and price.

 

Let's hope not!

March 2024 is soon enough!

[BosKonay]

These are now available to log a preorder / intent with IRM - no payment taken at this point, we also don't have any deco / imagery, details, ETA, or price as yet. 

 

https://irishrailwaymodels.com/collections/murphy-models-mark-2d-coaches/availability_pre-order