The Eagle Has Landed - NIR Hunslets Next For Accurascale IRM

[Robert Shrives]

Deed done 3 in varying livery inc the rail tour yellow panel.  Yes class 80 but guess the easier win will be the original livery Enterprise next time the Mk 2s are run.  Having retired from the remains of Crosscountry trains in August I was quite amazed by a collection by my former colleagues - a  335 euro IRM card - they knew me too well it seems!  could well be an avenue to spend .. 

Thanks again gang. 

Robert 

[Patrick Davey]

Bells & whistles (ha) DCC sound fitted 'Falcon' ordered - thank you IRM!!!

[Georgeconna]

Great new!!! the operating roof fan has sold it for me!! 

[Signal Post]

Perhaps @BosKonay might be able to clear up a bit of confusion in my mind regarding pre-orders using the account login (i.e. where loyalty points are awarded).... I have a pre-order in for H-Vans and I wish to order some Hunslets, from what I have read above it appears that if I order the Hunslets (via the account) it would appear that the H-Van order gets cancelled? This seems strange to say the least or am I reading it wrong? Any clarification would be much appreciated.

[BosKonay]

1 minute ago, Signal Post said:

Perhaps @BosKonay might be able to clear up a bit of confusion in my mind regarding pre-orders using the account login (i.e. where loyalty points are awarded).... I have a pre-order in for H-Vans and I wish to order some Hunslets, from what I have read above it appears that if I order the Hunslets (via the account) it would appear that the H-Van order gets cancelled? This seems strange to say the least or am I reading it wrong? Any clarification would be much appreciated.

If you order a Hunslet and H vans, the order will probably ensure the H vans sell out before you get them. The general guidance is DONT mix preorders with other ranges or with in stock items. 

So if you want H Vans, place an order for H Vans, if you want a Hunslet too, place a second order for the loco. Hope that helps!

[James Regan]

While we are on the subject of pre-orders, and don’t get offended, it appears pre-ordering multiple items is a little cumbersome. For example, if I pre-order one Hunslet, I have to add it to cart, the cart opens and then I cant go back to the Hunslet page to order a second one without going to the main menu and again selecting Locomotives, Pre-Order etc. If instead I click on continue shopping it takes me to the whole range and not just Hunslets. It would be great if you could go back to the page with the range you are selecting from so you can easily select multiple items. I had the same issue with the Park Royals. It seems to work more efficiently for items in stock such as the Bullieds. Ideally you could check multiple items and just click pre-order for the bunch but if that functionality isnt available and others such as rails of sheffield dont have it, keeping the page you are ordering from available would be good enough.

[BosKonay]

3 minutes ago, James Regan said:

While we are on the subject of pre-orders, and don’t get offended, it appears pre-ordering multiple items is a little cumbersome. For example, if I pre-order one Hunslet, I have to add it to cart, the cart opens and then I cant go back to the Hunslet page to order a second one without going to the main menu and again selecting Locomotives, Pre-Order etc. If instead I click on continue shopping it takes me to the whole range and not just Hunslets. It would be great if you could go back to the page with the range you are selecting from so you can easily select multiple items. I had the same issue with the Park Royals. It seems to work more efficiently for items in stock such as the Bullieds. Ideally you could check multiple items and just click pre-order for the bunch but if that functionality isnt available and others such as rails of sheffield dont have it, keeping the page you are ordering from available would be good enough.

Why would anyone get offended? Check how preorders work here https://www.accurascale.com/collections/nir-101-dl-class-hunslet

I assume that's what you mean, in that you can click preorder for multiple items on the collection page and it's all seamless? If so it's on the todo list for the IRM website (you can also shop on the acc website and we'll be listing all IRM items there too as we move forward, with shipping globally too)

[Signal Post]

Thanks @BosKonay for the very quick response, so just to clarify when I look at my account (logged in) it shows recent order (for H-Vans) order number IRM-xxxx(numbers not shown here for obvious reasons), if I now go to the shop and order Hunslets, they will show in my cart and then I place the order, does my "recent orders" now show IRM-xxxx (the H vans) and IRM-yyyy (the Hunslets) or do the Hunslets get added to the IRM-xxxx (ie an order with H-vans and Hunslets).

I suppose what I am asking (in a roundabout way) is if I wish to order items from two different lines tonight then if I place the items from one line in the cart and submit it, then go to a second line, add them to cart and submit the order, does this generate two separate (ie not mixed) orders?

[BosKonay]

1 minute ago, Signal Post said:

Thanks @BosKonay for the very quick response, so just to clarify when I look at my account (logged in) it shows recent order (for H-Vans) order number IRM-xxxx(numbers not shown here for obvious reasons), if I now go to the shop and order Hunslets, they will show in my cart and then I place the order, does my "recent orders" now show IRM-xxxx (the H vans) and IRM-yyyy (the Hunslets) or do the Hunslets get added to the IRM-xxxx (ie an order with H-vans and Hunslets).

I suppose what I am asking (in a roundabout way) is if I wish to order items from two different lines tonight then if I place the items from one line in the cart and submit it, then go to a second line, add them to cart and submit the order, does this generate two separate (ie not mixed) orders?

Every time you checkout, you get a new order, and a new order number .Your recent orders when logged in will show just the last one, and you click the 'see all orders' button there to see the complete list of what you've ordered.

All lines in a cart are what you are checking out, so add all the items from the same range you want, then click the checkout button and confirm, and it will create an order for those items.

Then your cart will be empty, and add the next lot, etc - hope that 's clear!?

[James Regan]

10 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

Why would anyone get offended? Check how preorders work here https://www.accurascale.com/collections/nir-101-dl-class-hunslet

I assume that's what you mean, in that you can click preorder for multiple items on the collection page and it's all seamless? If so it's on the todo list for the IRM website (you can also shop on the acc website and we'll be listing all IRM items there too as we move forward, with shipping globally too)

Yes, thats even better! Pity, I did it the hard way.

[Signal Post]

Ah! the fog clears! That makes sense. Thanks @BosKonay so much for taking the trouble to clarify this especially at this late hour of the evening, it was nice meeting with your colleagues at the show today, the Hunslets look super and were a very pleasant surprise, I for one hadn't expected to see them for a very long time...

[mphoey]

20 minutes ago, James Regan said:

While we are on the subject of pre-orders, and don’t get offended, it appears pre-ordering multiple items is a little cumbersome. For example, if I pre-order one Hunslet, I have to add it to cart, the cart opens and then I cant go back to the Hunslet page to order a second one without going to the main menu and again selecting Locomotives, Pre-Order etc. If instead I click on continue shopping it takes me to the whole range and not just Hunslets. It would be great if you could go back to the page with the range you are selecting from so you can easily select multiple items. I had the same issue with the Park Royals. It seems to work more efficiently for items in stock such as the Bullieds. Ideally you could check multiple items and just click pre-order for the bunch but if that functionality isnt available and others such as rails of sheffield dont have it, keeping the page you are ordering from available would be good enough.

i usually back track 2 and it brings me to the page i was looking at add new one then backtrack 2 again

[DJ Dangerous]

21 minutes ago, James Regan said:

While we are on the subject of pre-orders, and don’t get offended, it appears pre-ordering multiple items is a little cumbersome. For example, if I pre-order one Hunslet, I have to add it to cart, the cart opens and then I cant go back to the Hunslet page to order a second one without going to the main menu and again selecting Locomotives, Pre-Order etc. If instead I click on continue shopping it takes me to the whole range and not just Hunslets. It would be great if you could go back to the page with the range you are selecting from so you can easily select multiple items. I had the same issue with the Park Royals. It seems to work more efficiently for items in stock such as the Bullieds. Ideally you could check multiple items and just click pre-order for the bunch but if that functionality isnt available and others such as rails of sheffield dont have it, keeping the page you are ordering from available would be good enough.

Right click on the pre-order button, and choose to open in a new tab.

If using a touchscreen device, tap and hold instead of just tapping, and choose to open in a new tab.

You can easily toggle between tabs.

Your device will remember what's in the basket, so you can close the basket tab and repeat the process for the next one.

[Basil]

One of the last locos I expected! Immediate pre-order from me.

Another silver fox kit doomed to remain in its box forever...

[James Regan]

12 minutes ago, mphoey said:

i usually back track 2 and it brings me to the page i was looking at add new one then backtrack 2 again

Thanks guys for the work arounds. If you check out Accurascale you can see how seamless this can be. 

[chris]

8 hours ago, James Regan said:

These are a wonderful product. I didn’t expect you would choose these given how few were on the network. The Enterprise is a great train with a rich history, and now I will have something to head my Mark IIs, below. I do love the uniqueness of the maroon and hope some maroon coaches may be in the future. I’ll try to order one of each. 
 

A bit off topic but where does that display come from please?

Its really smart with the full lenght.

[enniscorthyman]

I may get 101 in blue NIR livery.They look superb.You could haul ferts and cement bubbles with them I persume-freight transfer from Adelaide.

[murphaph]

18 hours ago, murphaph said:

Great stuff. I'll be ordering those two and probably exercise a little bit of Rule 1 to justify the purchase 102 with the yellow panels. 

Duly ordered those three just now. Not 100% sure I'll hold on to the 102 with yellow panels but I'd prefer to have it and not need it than "need" it and not have it. I'd advise anyone even half thinking about getting any of these to place a pre-order. People are already kicking themselves over not ordering more Hattons' Genesis and these will be rarer and better. It will be easy to sell on a unit should one decide it's surplus to requirements. 

[Horsetan]

13 hours ago, Basil said:

One of the last locos I expected! ...

The amusing thing was that IRM let slip a video about 48 hours before the official announcement, showing the working roof fan, plus a link to a half-completed webpage about the Hunslet.

It was all deleted after about 15 minutes, but if you were lucky enough to spot it, you'd definitely have known!

[Noel]

Purely personally i was hoping for a C class or a Sulzer 110 or even 113. The Hunslet to IRM standards will make a lot of people happy.

[Rapid130RS]

Orders placed. Looking forward to them

[murphaph]

12 minutes ago, Noel said:

Purely personally i was hoping for a C class or a Sulzer 110 or even 113. The Hunslet to IRM standards will make a lot of people happy.

They sure will. There's photographic evidence of them visiting the wheel lathe in Inchicore. I wonder did they ever do trials afterwards with a run light engine to Kildare and back to the works.

[gibbo675]

On 26/10/2024 at 11:30 AM, Warbonnet said:

For Hunslet, the answer was to sub-contract out the manufacturing work, so having designed the superstructure and bogies, fabrication of the superstructure, along with the final assembly, testing and painting were contracted out to British Rail Engineering Limited at their Doncaster site.

Traction was trusted to English Electric/AEI Traction, who designed the English Electric 8CSVT Mk II design prime mover for the project, which essentially was an updated version of the Class 20's prime mover, fitted with an additional intercooler. Linked to a Bo-Bo bogie arrangement, this unit provided 1,350 hp (1,010 kW), of which 350hp was required for the Mk2’s heating system!
Completed on schedule, 101 Eagle was handed over to NIR on May 8, 1970, with 102 Falcon following on May 22 and 103 Merlin on June 8 and all three locomotives (on temporary bogies) were subsequently shipped to Belfast on the Ferry from Preston (probably on the MV Ionic Ferry) and on arrival were moved to Queens Road for the fitting of the 5’ 3" gauge wheelsets.

Hi Folks,

I find this part of the introductory post interesting as I do know that Brush Traction tested diesel locomotives on re-gauged wheelsets on the Great Central Main Line in England prior to shipping. I think the locomotives were 3' gauge for East African Railways and were mechanically and electrically similar to the BR class 31 although styling and gauge were quite different.

Does anyone know if the locomotives were tested on BR before despatch to Preston and also were the locomotives moved between Doncaster and Preston by rail ?

Gibbo.

[James Regan]

12 hours ago, chris said:

A bit off topic but where does that display come from please?

Its really smart with the full lenght.

It’s from a company in Germany and they will ship to the US and elsewhere.

https://www.train-safe.de/en/Our-Products/Acrylic-display-case/Vision/

[exciecoachbuilder]

2 hours ago, murphaph said:

They sure will. There's photographic evidence of them visiting the wheel lathe in Inchicore. I wonder did they ever do trials afterwards with a run light engine to Kildare and back to the works.

Hi, I would say that it went straight back into traffic after being worked on in the wheel lathe. I don't recall any vehicles being trialled after a stint in the wheel lathe shop. The wheel lathe shop was like a production line, and I can't imagine every vehicle having to be sent out on trial? Maybe someone here knows better? 

[Der Rechtsanwalt]

 

[DiveController]

Anyone know which models have the TDm cabling and where it is located? Maybe above the headlight on the ends of the blue models?

Are lamps fitted to some of the models (present in one of the color diagrams)?

Edited October 27 by DiveController

[John-r]

Absolutely delighted with this announcement. Had the pleasure of seeing these at the Dublin show yesterday and the detail is stunning, the only problem is which one's to get. Quick question was there two types of blue livery and if yes are these both being done. Fantastic work lads.

[Newtoncork]

Great choice of loco. Couldn't decide so ordered all three!

[DiveController]

23 minutes ago, John-r said:

Absolutely delighted with this announcement. Had the pleasure of seeing these at the Dublin show yesterday and the detail is stunning, the only problem is which one's to get. Quick question was there two types of blue livery and if yes are these both being done. Fantastic work lads.

Yes and yes. They got the first blue livery c 1979 with red arc which was refreshed with the red chevron about 1988 but Merlin was withdrawn in 1989. Falcon got a darker blue (yellow ends) as the longest survivor in 1996 before it withdrawal from service in 1998. I think Eagle was out of service by that time

8 minutes ago, Newtoncork said:

Great choice of loco. Couldn't decide so ordered all three!

But which era? I have to get the blue of course but I'm hoping for a limited run of coaches to go with the maroon and blue, choices out of those four .....difficult

 

Edited October 27 by DiveController

[irishthump]

Pulled the trigger and preordered a Falcon (my needs are small!)

Sadly I can't get over to the show this year, but kudos to IRM for producing this loco. Can't wait!

[Colin R]

Well I was only going to do one but as they say, you can separate a fool from his money so that is one in the maroon, one in the early blue livery and one in the later blue versions, better start saving again from the pension pot.

If I had the money I would buy a load of them seeing what happens to the A class locos

[DiveController]

On 26/10/2024 at 11:57 AM, BosKonay said:

Bear in mind it's no money down on preorders and easy cancellation.

Working on that now and the information supplied is very helpful. If memory serves the 111s began to displace the Hunslets on the The Enterprise from the outset (at least, 1981) with the addition of the new gennys (in lieu of HEP) and cessation of the use of the driving trailers (for that purpose). Was the Enterprise still hauled by the Hunslets as late as 1983?

[Fowler4f]

Ordered 101 (arc) / 102 (syp) both with sound. Then succumbed to ordering 103 (chv) with sound as well.

All pockets empty with large holes !

No more this year IRM Please, well till after Xmas anyway.

[GNRi Milepost 105]

Ordered 101 with sound in original livery in anticipation of maroon/blue coaches. Also 102 in blue with sound to model push pull local services with mk2 bdts in grey/blue. I fondly remember the noise these locos made on acceleration so looking forward to delivery day. Thanks guys.