Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive

[Irishswissernie]

Kingscourt 3 June 1961 GNRI 132 on Special.

Donegal Town CA 1950's 2  views of wagons.

 

 

[Branchline121]

4 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

Kingscourt 3 June 1961 GNRI 132 on Special.

Donegal Town CA 1950's 2  views of wagons.

 

 

Very nice to see the Kingscourt line pre-70s. It’s harder to find pre-70s photos of that line than I would’ve originally thought!

[Andy Cundick]

Wagon 276s photo was taken on the 7-9-52,according to the back of the photo,Andy.

[Irishswissernie]

Mallow 163, 16 August 1994.

Tralee 176 + 145 and probably same pair later at Portlaoise 16 August 1994.

 

[Irishswissernie]

8 June 1961 Banagher branch, Bord na Mona Xing.2 views of the Special at Banagher same day.

 

 

 

[Irishswissernie]

Millstreet 5 June 1961.

Ballaghaderreen 8 June 1961.

Ennis 7 June 1961.

 

[Irishswissernie]

Dundalk Works yard Ca 1955 151, MAK diesel.

Dundalk station VS 206 on a Dublin bound service. CA 1955-7

 

[connollystn]

Great pics @irishswissernie, I didn't realise that GNR(I) had the MaK diesel locomotive as far back as 1955. Makes me wonder why they waited until the early 70s to get diesel traction for mainline passenger services.

[Garfield]

5 minutes ago, connollystn said:

Great pics @irishswissernie, I didn't realise that GNR(I) had the MaK diesel locomotive as far back as 1955. Makes me wonder why they waited until the early 70s to get diesel traction for mainline passenger services.

Quite a feat considering it went bust and was divided between CIE and the UTA in 1958. 

A fair share of the GNR's passenger services, including the 'Enterprise', were operated by AEC and BUT diesel railcar sets in its latter years.

[GSR 800]

24 minutes ago, connollystn said:

Great pics @irishswissernie, I didn't realise that GNR(I) had the MaK diesel locomotive as far back as 1955. Makes me wonder why they waited until the early 70s to get diesel traction for mainline passenger services.

As said, focus was on railcars from the early. The north went so far as to have MPDs pulling freight! 

That is not to see the GNR wasn't looking towards diesels and even electrification, they had quite extensive plans for such but the funds did not allow it. I believe New Irish Lines had something on it, will have to dig it up. The MAK was a glimpse of these plans for diesel freight locomotives.

[GSR 800]

Found it, November 2005 issue and its successor https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz86b7x52bf58oh/New Irish Lines - Vol. 4 No. 2 - 2005 November.pdf

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7y7ar7ocv92l0aa/New Irish Lines - Vol. 4 No. 3 - 2006 May.pdf

https://newirishlines.org/archive/

[Lambeg man]

On 18/7/2022 at 10:39 AM, Irishswissernie said:

8 June 1961 Banagher branch, Bord na Mona Xing.2 views of the Special at Banagher same day.

Hi Ernie,

This was where J. Edgington took the large group picture of the whole tour party. See the RPSI website for more.

4 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

Dundalk station VS 206 on a Dublin bound service. CA 1955-7

The first carriage is a 'C 2' All-First in "1953 Royal Train" livery, blue/cream sides, black ends.

[Irishswissernie]

Ex NCC today, 6 July 1968 , University 4 at 2.30pm.

June 1968, 53 near Ballymena.

1955CA Portrush 97.

 

 

[leslie10646]

I particularly was amused by the photo at Portrush - the loco appears to be starting, as the drain cocks are open and there seems to be steam around the chimney - but there is a gange right in front of the engine, so obviously not.

The pose of the foreman ganger is priceless!

[connollystn]

@GSR 800 - Thanks very much for those links to the New Irish Lines articles, made for plenty of very interesting reading.

[Irishswissernie]

Inchicore June 1961, J15B 711 appears to be in steam but as a stationary boiler. There are some kind of pipe connections near the cab and tender. The bicycle looks in better nick!

Clara 18 March 1963.

Ferbane 719 8 June 1961.

 

[Horsetan]

1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said:

Inchicore June 1961, J15B 711 appears to be in steam but as a stationary boiler. There are some kind of pipe connections near the cab and tender. The bicycle looks in better nick!....

 

 

Yes, that does look like stationary boiler service - the engine is well hemmed-in against the stop block and clearly isn't going anywhere. There aren't any other markings on it, so did 711 survive to the end in 1963 or was it withdrawn from service before that?

I'd have thought they would take the steam supply from the dome rather than a pipe from the drawbar area, but maybe Inchicore did things differently.

[Andy Cundick]

Judging from the plumbing it looks like an injector has been rigged up,by the tender,Andy.

[Mayner]

1 hour ago, Andy Cundick said:

Judging from the plumbing it looks like an injector has been rigged up,by the tender,Andy.

According to W (Bill) McDonnell in a "Decade of Steam" the J15b  710 Class had a reputation of poor steaming and the injectors gave trouble if the small GSWR tenders, probable reason for placing the injectors in an accessible place!

Edited July 22, 2022 by Mayner

[Horsetan]

On 27/3/2022 at 8:23 AM, Irishswissernie said:

Cork Glanmire Road .....

802 looking somewhat forlorn 14 January 1961.....

 

 

Slight problem with either the date or the engine.

802 Tailte was withdrawn in 1955 and was supposed to have been cut-up by 1957 (only her tender still existed, and Bulleid reportedly wanted it for his turf-burning experiments). If this is correct, the engine in the photo either cannot be 802, or the given date of Jan. 1961 is wrong.

If it's 1961, my guess is that it's more likely to be 801 Macha which did linger around for a while after withdrawal.

It may not be 800 Maedb, since the few photos of her from that period (and after) show her looking relatively unweathered, and anyway she was not withdrawn until 1961 - although after that she was missing her plates and the cab windows prior to being set aside for preservation -

[Westcorkrailway]

Macha was working the beet between Kent and mallow in the late 50s. This condition probobly matched the work it was doing 

[Irishswissernie]

Its a Roy Dennison slide taken on his trip in January 1961 so he has wrongly recorded the number. I shall amend it  to 801. Many thanks for the information and pointing the error out.

[Irishswissernie]

The Inchicore Works shunter 'Sambo' over the years. Spot the changes!

16 April 1940.

29 June 1959

June 1961

JW Armstrong photo from early CIE shows different smokebox base to later years

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Irishswissernie

[Galteemore]

Double smokebox doors were such a lovely anachronism. I think they rather suit her. 

[Billycan]

Still hopeful of someday knowing if the sister loco at Broadstone had a similar name.

[GSR 800]

2 hours ago, Billycan said:

Still hopeful of someday knowing if the sister loco at Broadstone had a similar name.

Well Sambo was a one off as far as I know, but there were shunters like the MGWR P's kicking around broadstone?

Not sure if any kept their names into CIE years

[Westcorkrailway]

4 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

 

 

 

I think I’ve seen a colour photo of this photo, the van just behind Sambo is in the rare Green as a pose to grey 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Westcorkrailway

[Irishswissernie]

West Clare, Kilrush either 5C or 6C CA 1950.

Kilrush wagon 17C ca 1950

Dublin, Connolly 124 20 July 1990.

 

[Andy Cundick]

Its 6c,as she had latterly square rear spectacle plates.whereas 5c reatined the original round ones,Andy 

[jhb171achill]

On 23/7/2022 at 12:43 PM, GSR 800 said:

Well Sambo was a one off as far as I know, but there were shunters like the MGWR P's kicking around broadstone?

Not sure if any kept their names into CIE years

"Negro" and "Sambo", un-PC as they are today, kept their names. These shunted in Waterford and Inchicore. There was the unofficial "Pat" at the coaling stage in Cork, and both "Argadeen" and "St Molaga" kept their names until withdrawal.

[GSR 800]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

"Negro" and "Sambo", un-PC as they are today, kept their names. These shunted in Waterford and Inchicore. There was the unofficial "Pat" at the coaling stage in Cork, and both "Argadeen" and "St Molaga" kept their names until withdrawal.

Indeed, but I've never heard of a single named shunter loco for Broadstone as billycan suggests.

Theres also Jumbo, but I've mentioned that before.

 

[jhb171achill]

21 minutes ago, GSR 800 said:

Indeed, but I've never heard of a single named shunter loco for Broadstone as billycan suggests.

Theres also Jumbo, but I've mentioned that before.

 

Nor have I.....certainly not in GSR days. By CIE days Broadstone was just a loco depot anyway.

[GSR 800]

On 22/7/2022 at 2:57 PM, Horsetan said:

Slight problem with either the date or the engine.

802 Tailte was withdrawn in 1955 and was supposed to have been cut-up by 1957 (only her tender still existed, and Bulleid reportedly wanted it for his turf-burning experiments). If this is correct, the engine in the photo either cannot be 802, or the given date of Jan. 1961 is wrong.

If it's 1961, my guess is that it's more likely to be 801 Macha which did linger around for a while after withdrawal.

It may not be 800 Maedb, since the few photos of her from that period (and after) show her looking relatively unweathered, and anyway she was not withdrawn until 1961 - although after that she was missing her plates and the cab windows prior to being set aside for preservation -

Was Maedb not withdrawn earlier than that? She was sitting in Thurles stored in 1960. 

The timeline seems quite muddled after that, pictures often having wrong timestamps. The IRRS has a picture dated 1964 of Maedb and Macha tender to tender in Inchicore, both intact. Theres another picture dated 1962-3 with Macha cut down to the frames! Another has her boiler and firebox on an old tender chassis dated feb 1963

The locomotive in the photo is almost certainly Macha

Interestingly here's a photo of one of the tenders at Inchicore, supposedly in 1959..

https://thetransportlibrary.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=204476&search=CIE+Coras+Iompair+Eireann&page=4

 

 

[Horsetan]

7 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

..... here's a photo of one of the tenders at Inchicore, supposedly in 1959..

https://thetransportlibrary.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=204476&search=CIE+Coras+Iompair+Eireann&page=4

That's likely to be Tailte's tender if the date is correct. The engine portion was long gone, but the tender did hang around for quite a long time after.

[Irishswissernie]

HC Casserley NCC today.

19 April 1948 Derry, Waterside 82 reverses the stock of the 8.15 ex Belfast out of the platform, Negative damaged!

22 June 1937 Belfast York Road 58 and 14