BosKonay Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Arising from the crowd funding thread, a quick poll and thread to determine, all else being equal, if people would be willing in principle to fund / prepay for a desirable model.
BosKonay Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 Feel free to suggest here what you'd like to see made and we can run a subsequent poll
dave182 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Top 3 in order of preference: 121 Class rtr A Class rtr CIE 20' container with side doors on rtr chassis
Waterfordtrain Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Would prepay for any good quality irish loco .
Dunluce Castle Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I'd be happy to pay for a scale steam loco, diesel not so sure
DiveController Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 What I'd prepay for and relative level of interest in each model A class (one, probably more) C class (one) 121 (at least two if not produced by MM) 800 Class steam (three, since it is a difficult kit I couldn't model yet)
Warbonnet Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 If we are going to run a poll after this one lads we need suggestions of actual prototypes rather than "anything". Maybe keep it to one or two suggestions too otherwise the list might get very long! Cheers.
DiveController Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 If we are going to run a poll after this one lads we need suggestions of actual prototypes rather than "anything". Maybe keep it to one or two suggestions too otherwise the list might get very long! Cheers. I think that is what is happening with these posts to gauge interest? People are suggesting two or three on here and hopefully there will be some predominant items recurrently mentioned, which I guess would be what we potentially run with if it went ahead
Warbonnet Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I think that is what is happening with these posts to gauge interest?People are suggesting two or three on here and hopefully there will be some predominant items recurrently mentioned, which I guess would be what we potentially run with if it went ahead A couple of posts have mentioned "any Irish loco" etc. We cant really put that in as an entry in a poll. If anyone wants to take the idea forward a notch they can use the data from these polls to add a concrete base to their case and see if there is any desire for such a project to occur. First, find out if people are willing to pay up front. Then find out exactly what most people want and take it from there. When this poll finishes we will open a new poll with the suggestions in this thread to see what the most popular item will be.
heirflick Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I would love anything rtr but limiting myself to one model, it has to be the A class.
Dunluce Castle Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I'd be happy to pay for a scale steam loco, diesel not so sure 1) NCC mogul 2) NCC Jeep That's my top 2
scahalane Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 It would be great to see a high quality rtr a-class. But in the four years it would take to churn this model out I'd imagine that 3d printers will have reached a high enough quality so we'll be knocking these out from our desktops!
Glenderg Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 The standard top 10? Lemme have a go. 4 Wheeled Ballast Wagon 4 Wheeled Cement Bubble 4 Wheeled Double Beet Double Bogie Tara Wagons 121 A Class 4 Wheeled Cement Bubble MK4 DVT A Class Sambo 4 Wheeled Cement Bubble A Class Never any good at maths....
Noel Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Yes but only if locos are centre drive (ie dual driving bogies), dual flywheel, all wheel drive and all wheel pickup with lights, 21pin DCC socket and speaker box, same quality as MMs A class black & tan Steam Mogul 2-6-0 DCC ready (direct drive with flywheel + Stay alive) 121 class (option for dummy non driving 121 for pairs)
irishthump Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Sorry guys, but I can't see myself shelling out in advance for the production of any model, especially with the timelines mentioned. As for top 3... 1 - 121 2 - A Class 3 - C Class
irishthump Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 121 class (option for dummy non driving 121 for pairs) It was discussed before, but a dummy loco costs very nearly as much a one with a motor.
Glenderg Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 237 views and only 21 votes? Is that 21 people checking this forum 10+ times each, or just a load of forum lurkers not bothering voting? Hup yer game folks, this is truly appalling. Log in - vote - simples.
DiveController Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) 237 views and only 21 votes? Is that 21 people checking this forum 10+ times each, or just a load of forum lurkers not bothering voting? Hup yer game folks, this is truly appalling. Log in - vote - simples. Oops, been skewing that statistic a little GD as I viewed the new comments that were posted pretty regularly. But yes, have seen all the usual suspects on the thread but that's not a lot of people. Based on BK's? recent stats there are hundreds of people on this site. I'm presuming (Mod, correct me if I'm wrong) but only members can vote on this poll? I notice when I'm on the site that there are several members but many more guests at any one time. They may be modelers that do not happen to be members or casual passers-by, I'm not sure. I'd need to refer back to those stats on that thread. This is not a general election for another rainbow coalition:rolleyes: If you want to have the possibility of a new model you've got to vote, folks. Even if its no, please still let us know that you're not up for this. You don't have to post any comments. So far with 21 possibles, we'd only have to buy 25 models each so I'm still optimistic Edited November 17, 2014 by DiveController
Jimbo325ci Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I'd be willing to front up. 1. 121 2. A class
DartStation Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 1. A Class Specifically not including the 121 as this will be covered by Paddy Murphy at some point - patience is a virtue!!!!!!! and we know that is will be a quality model based on the ones to date.
Dave Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I would buy 4 121's and would take 2 A classes.
John-r Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I'd be willing to pay up front, A class or 121, I would buy both.
BosKonay Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 Based on BK's? recent stats there are hundreds of people on this site. I'm presuming (Mod, correct me if I'm wrong) but only members can vote on this poll? We have 603 members, of whom 202 visited the site in the last month (defined as 'active' as a result) We do see a large amount of non signed-up traffic, which is normal enough, most members will read and lurk for (in some cases) months before joining.
Warbonnet Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Based on BK's? recent stats there are hundreds of people on this site. I'm presuming (Mod, correct me if I'm wrong) but only members can vote on this poll? Yes, only members who have logged in can vote.
timmycork Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I think prepaying is fine as long as you know the terms. Have a reputable supplier to guarantee quality, a date of delivery (close estimate).
ttc0169 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 (1)-001 class-Supertrain livery (2)-121 class-Supertrain livery (3)-201/C class-Supertrain livery.
BosKonay Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 Just a reminder to please ensure you VOTE as well as give a wishlist ! Thanks!
Noel Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 This is a great idea in principle. Two thoughts. First choice of liveries could be a problem as economies of scale would preclude doing say three runs in different liveries. Secondly there are two possible 'crowd' scheme options, one where folk are not shareholders and simply prepay for loco stock, alternatively where folks prepay what is in effect equity in a scheme. In the former the sole 'owner' earns revenue going forward, wheras in the second it is shared by the group members (ie stock or dividends), but this can be costly to administer. Just a thought.
BosKonay Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 The simplest option to date would seem to be where you simply buy the loco(s) you want, in advance. Once enough have been sold, the production can commence...
Warbonnet Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 For an insight into how Kickstarter works it's worth looking at this website. http://www.ngaugependolino.com/ At the moment it's a speculative exercise to see if there is interest there, then what people would be interested in. After that it's up to individual(s) to take the data to the next left if they so wish to do. I wouldnt worry about the politics or the inner workings of how something like this would eventually work just yet.
BosKonay Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 Interesting quote from that site: The bottom line is that Rapido will produce the model if we can generate 800 pledges, instead of the 1,000 DJM would have needed. Gives an indication of the commitment needed.
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