Westcorkrailway Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said: Murphy Models 071 Class no. 082 with LokSound decoder and two packs of IRM Ballast wagons for €750: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/model-railways/29166896 Oh boy… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Poor description. He doesn't mention Murphy Models anywhere. He will struggle to be found. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 25/1/2023 at 7:03 AM, murphaph said: Poor description. He doesn't mention Murphy Models anywhere. He will struggle to be found. You weren't the only one to think that: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) He has a second bundle up now also with a 201 and 5 MK2Ds for €900.. Again won’t split it which is less than ideal as the MK2s are a mix of black and orange roofs so not even a uniform rake.. plus the value is way off, none of the in really in demand MK2s included.. About €550 is probably fair value IMO(€250 for the 201 and €60 each per coach) Open to offers though! Edited January 27, 2023 by MOGUL 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I have gotten a few bargains from www.collectireland.com last month 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, MOGUL said: He has a second bundle up now also with a 201 and 5 MK2Ds for €900.. Again won’t split it which is less than ideal as the MK2s are a mix of black and orange roofs so not even a uniform rake.. plus the value is way off, none of the in really in demand MK2s included.. About €550 is probably fair value IMO(€250 for the 201 and €60 each per coach) Open to offers though! I suspect that you might sell a complete train for maybe €500 or €600, but not €900. Adverts.ie is not eBay, it doesn't have the reach or audience, and it's not a timed auction site so the red mist is missing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 27/1/2023 at 8:23 PM, DJ Dangerous said: I suspect that you might sell a complete train for maybe €500 or €600, but not €900. Adverts.ie is not eBay, it doesn't have the reach or audience, and it's not a timed auction site so the red mist is missing. But unlike ebay, Adverts is in Ireland, so people are not as terrified of VAT, postage or import fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Can anyone see the irony in calling this thread 'Bargain Watch'? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, connollystn said: Can anyone see the irony in calling this thread 'Bargain Watch'? Because the bargains are usually sold before they ever touch this thread! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 27/1/2023 at 5:15 PM, MOGUL said: He has a second bundle up now also with a 201 and 5 MK2Ds for €900.. Again won’t split it which is less than ideal as the MK2s are a mix of black and orange roofs so not even a uniform rake.. plus the value is way off, none of the in really in demand MK2s included.. About €550 is probably fair value IMO(€250 for the 201 and €60 each per coach) Open to offers though! They must be trying to pay for rent in Dublin for that money.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 201 has sound so €350 5 Mk 2 Cravens(His words not mine) then work out at €110 each! Thems even dearer than me! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) He must be REALLY reluctant to sell… Edit: turns out he is, and I can understand a bit more Edited January 30, 2023 by Westcorkrailway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Gulp what prices! Feeling fortunate that I stabled a collection between 2014 and 2018 before these sort of excessive market prices spiked. Got fair value when Chris Dyre sold me 141/181s for gbp£95, and Dave Bracken for €110. Thanks guys. It seems only a few years ago I bought a new 071 IR off the shelf new from Marks Models for only €139. Where will it all end Ted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 It's called greed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: It's called greed Ah I wouldn't expect anyone to sell anything to me for less than market value, especially in these inflationary times. Who knows what financial pressure sellers are under these days. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said: He must be REALLY reluctant to sell… Edit: turns out he is, and I can understand a bit more Reluctant to sell at anything less than 80% of a mark up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said: He must be REALLY reluctant to sell… Edit: turns out he is, and I can understand a bit more 2 minutes ago, MOGUL said: Reluctant to sell at anything less than 80% of a mark up? OK, just for you two numpties, where maths obviously isn't your strong point: €115 for the Empty Flats from IRM - price still on the website so look it up... €35 postage from Las Canarias to Dublin... €10 customs and "handling fee" before An Post will release it - declared it as a low value gift to keep that amount down... €20 to me for investing the time, energy and money in making something that was impossible to obtain, suddenly be available, in perfect condition, for collection in Dublin... And, it's also possible that these were one of the parcels that DHL raped me for receiving back in the day, but I can't be sure so haven't factored it in. I'm too busy in work for this shit during the week. Maths is easy. If you want to buy them, well and good, if not, good for you. Lord, give me patience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 This is true. The original price paid by a seller is unknown. Not everyone was able to buy at the original retail price. I recently sold a few bits and also had to factor in the fact I paid sterling with no rake discount + Vat + handling charges + post to Germany for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, murphaph said: This is true. The original price paid by a seller is unknown. Not everyone was able to buy at the original retail price. I recently sold a few bits and also had to factor in the fact I paid sterling with no rake discount + Vat + handling charges + post to Germany for them. Truth is, I can't be 100% sure what the postage cost to me was at the time of purchase. I'm guessing €10 if I break down the cost of a larger parcel pro-rata, but can't prove that. And DHL raped me with exorbitant handling charges at one point, when IRM were stuck using them temporarily. Again, I can't be sure if this was one of those parcels. Something like €40 or €50 handling fees per parcel. Not per order, but per parcel. Maybe @Westcorkrailwaywould be so kind as to share a photo showing the postage price of the parcel that he received from me? Somewhere between half and a quarter of the size of this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: OK, just for you two numpties, where maths obviously isn't your strong point: €115 for the Empty Flats from IRM - price still on the website so look it up... €35 postage from Las Canarias to Dublin... €10 customs and "handling fee" before An Post will release it - declared it as a low value gift to keep that amount down... €20 to me for investing the time, energy and money in making something that was impossible to obtain, suddenly be available, in perfect condition, for collection in Dublin... And, it's also possible that these were one of the parcels that DHL raped me for receiving back in the day, but I can't be sure so haven't factored it in. I'm too busy in work for this shit during the week. Maths is easy. If you want to buy them, well and good, if not, good for you. Lord, give me patience! In our defence, none of that info is obvious from the ad on adverts and I didn’t link the sellers handle back to you.. I just saw an ad at €180 for something that’s listed at €100 on IRM.. For somewhere kind of in the Eu(aware canaries is a weird case) the costs quickly stack up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Truth is, I can't be 100% sure what the postage cost to me was at the time of purchase. I'm guessing €10 if I break down the cost of a larger parcel pro-rata, but can't prove that. And DHL raped me with exorbitant handling charges at one point, when IRM were stuck using them temporarily. Again, I can't be sure if this was one of those parcels. Something like €40 or €50 handling fees per parcel. Not per order, but per parcel. Maybe @Westcorkrailwaywould be so kind as to share a photo showing the postage price of the parcel that he received from me? Somewhere between half and a quarter of the size of this one... I think postage was big alright. Double digits or something like that. Plus an post made me pay customs….which I definitely was not expecting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, MOGUL said: In our defence, none of that info is obvious from the ad on adverts and I didn’t link the sellers handle back to you.. I just saw an ad at €180 for something that’s listed at €100 on IRM.. For somewhere kind of in the Eu(aware canaries is a weird case) the costs quickly stack up! A. That's the wrong product. The SKU and running numbers are IN MY ADVERT. B. The username and avatar should be a giveaway. Various members have even joked about it on here before. C. None of that needs to be clear in the advert. The asking price is the asking price. D. There is no defence. If somebody doesn't know what they are talking about, they should stop talking. E. Canaries ARE a special case - we'll see just how bad postage from here is when @Westcorkrailwayposts a photo. F. I'm the one taking the risk by undervaluing it while getting it up to Dublin, so that the buyer doesn't have that risk- all that risk for €20 that may not even be profit as I can't calculate what it cost me to receive initially. G. Just wait till you see how much it costs me to post an A Class up, again with me taking the risk by undervaluing it so that the buyer doesn't have that risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: I think postage was big alright. Double digits or something like that. Plus an post made me pay customs….which I definitely was not expecting And that was the minimum size and weight. I ended up with a box of air, so found something else to fill up the space. Correos en Canarias don't price like Correos España. You buy the tarriff and make the most of the space and weight. I have a rake of the original IRM Container liners to sell, probably for €650 odd, don't care if anybody objects to the mark-up, but I have no way of getting them to a buyer, so they sit on top of my wardrobe, laughing at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Nice to see an honest seller - title, description and lead photo all mention "Dicky". If only there were more sellers like this: https://www.ebay.es/itm/144922075863 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said: Nice to see an honest seller - title, description and lead photo all mention "Dicky". If only there were more sellers like this: https://www.ebay.es/itm/144922075863 I don't get it , normally you are giving out about the price that some lads are asking for other bits and bobs and then ok with this one where the price is actually over double the original selling price? Honest though! Still a good price for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Georgeconna said: I don't get it , normally you are giving out about the price that some lads are asking for other bits and bobs and then ok with this one where the price is actually over double the original selling price? Honest though! Still a good price for someone. I whine and complain about gougers making a fortune and depriving genuine enthusiasts in the process. We don't know what this seller paid, maybe they travelled to Dublin to buy them, maybe they had them posted to a UK address, so maybe they're making €5 or maybe they're making €15 EURO. Either way, their cut is tiny, if there is one at all, and it's still a savage price for some lovely looking wagons. It's the gougers who are adding hundreds to the prices and / or bought only to speculate that annoy me. Evan Kelly, I'm looking your direction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Pair of IRM Taras for €80, great price, sold-out at IRM and Marks Models: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/model-railways-irish-railway-models-tara-mines-wagons-x-1packs-g/28777219 Pair of IRM Spoil wagons for €110, good price, specially for this particular seller, and a good way to get yourself some empty Flats for C-Rail containers: https://touch.adverts.ie/models/irish-railway-models-wagons/28361598 Whole model railway for sale, including stock, for €850: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/model-railway/27123713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Nice looking 2700 for €200. Includes DCC chip. Graham's Resprays seem to have been good. The lining in particular on this one is well done. There was a botched looking one for €300 a few weeks back. https://touch.adverts.ie/models/irish-model-railway-iarnrod-eireann-2700-dmu/29286004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 IRM Ballast wagons going for peanuts: https://www.donedeal.ie/hobbies-for-sale/irish-railway-models-ballast-wagons/33329806 Taras, both blues and browns: https://www.donedeal.ie/hobbies-for-sale/irish-railway-models-tara-mines-wagons/33329819 Outstanding price for the entire Bachmann Irish trainset, DCC fitted: https://www.donedeal.ie/hobbies-for-sale/bachman-irish-railway-train-set-dcc-fitted/33168752 All from the same guy. That Bachmann set, wow, I'd snap that up in a second if I were up in Ireland. Almost tempted to not share it with you lot and somehow plot to get it for myself! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Not quite sure if they're bargains, but they may be to some... Murphy Models 112 for €650: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/murphy-models-nir-112-locomotive-northern-ireland-railways/29345275 Murphy Models 111 for €500: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/murphy-models-unrun-nir-111-locomotive-northern-ireland-railways/29345364 Murphy Models 209 for €300: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/murphy-models-unrun-nir-209-locomotive-northern-ireland-railways/29345438 Murphy Models 8208 for €300: https://touch.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/murphy-models-nir-8208-locomotive-enterprise-livery/29345478 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Silly prices 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: Silly prices A fool and his money are soon parted. "Take my money NOW!" (that's what I used to say to my former wife) Anyway, think someone will be desperate enough to pay those 'Bargain' prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Not so sure that they are bargains but sharing them here increases the odds of them going to somebody who is a genuine enthusiast, whatever the price. Seller might be flexible, somebody might be prepared to pay a big whammy to find that one missing loco, or IRM might drop some more photos of themselves measuring and scanning the real-life locos and put the kybosh on the current market prices. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 201's sold for €500 anyway, they are out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, Blaine said: 2 201's sold for €500 anyway, they are out there The Murphy Models 071 & 201 locomotives sell for mad prices but is there really a market big enough for a modern day version with the bells, whistles, et al to be produced? Wonder what people will be paying those models this time next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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