Dave Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Lovely work there Noel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Securing pins to hold containers on wagon and prevent movement. Holes drilled in floor of C-Rail 20ft containers to match and facilities mounting containers in either direction as well as running containers empty. First coat of paint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 GSV almost finished! Just the water fillers left and a change of couplings to do. Lightly weathered using weathering powders applied both dry and some wet using cotton buds to adjust. Not too heavy as back in the CIE single stripe B&T era they were kept reasonably clean unlike the later IR/IE era. Gloss varnish ready for SSM waterslide transfers, applied the decals using decalfix, then finally matt varnish to seal. I will lightly weather the sole bar and undersides to fade the white decals on the chassis. Shaping and fitting the door grab rails was a challenge with my shaky hands and poor eyesight. Thanks to Eoin's @murrayec advice I filed off the moulded plastic ones. Reasonably happy the way it turned out for a first GSV conversion. Next up a Bachmann BCK conversion to maroon 3173 hopefully over the Christmas holidays. What I've enjoyed most is learning from the mistakes I made along the way. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Excellent work Noel, just the right amount of weathering which is not overdone-look forward with interest to your 3173 conversion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Stunning - absolutely superb job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just beautiful, looks perfect 10/10 I love the grass, where did you get it please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayec Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Excellent Noel It looks great and done very neatly Eoin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scahalane Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Very well done Noel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Good on yer. Well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Thanks guys for the kind and encouraging comments. Will post a pic in natural light tomorrow and perhaps a video clip. It took a lot longer than I'd thought when starting out but enjoyed every bit. Looking forward to trying 3173. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Noel sir, you have again, set a barrier with your skills, congrats & very well done sir, I'm challenged to say keep up the remarkable work, but I have to do something like that in the future....I did say LIKE THAT..!! heaven help me.... Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclass007 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Lovely job! Something to be proud of...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-r Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Noel, what a fantastic job on the Gsv,. You rightly should be very proud of this achievement . Very well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 as an aside can anyone discern from the real thing what the text immediately over the fillers was its Has " Tank filler " , followed by something , that I cant resolve in any picture I have Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhu Varren Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) I presume this is what you are after. You can just about make it out as 'Tank Filler Water'. Edited December 18, 2017 by Dhu Varren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Its too small to make a readable transfer or decal as evidenced by photos. You could paint a faded white patch to make it look like there is lettering there but doesn't seem worth the hassle given its too small to read without a microscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 thanks Diu Varren , I also unearthed a pic on flickr that was very clear Tank filler water 29 minutes ago, Noel said: Its too small to make a readable transfer or decal as evidenced by photos. You could paint a faded white patch to make it look like there is lettering there but doesn't seem worth the hassle given its too small to read without a microscope. its about half the size of the main lettering , might be doable , Ill email a few custom decal people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Junctionmad said: its about half the size of the main lettering , might be doable , Ill email a few custom decal people Interested to see how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Work continues on the 20ft skeletal container wagon rake. Four more painted bauxite (railmatch acrylic 235). They are awkward to airbrush and waste a lot of paint due to the need cover all the shaded angles of the skeletal chassis. Ready for decals and weathering. These will be used to haul C-Rail 20ft Bell containers in mixed goods traffic formations behind B&T locos. The 3D kit was supplied by ifm and is quick and easy to assemble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRi1959 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Very realistic assembly line, impressed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 3:49 AM, jhb171achill said: The BR livery vanished in its entirety before entering traffic - the entire coach was painted in the standard CIE livery with black roofs from the outset. Nothing orange and black ever ran with grey roofs. Dirt, of course, can throw up many shades of many things.....! The structural alterations to the coaches were carried out by British Rail possibly at Derby and delivered by train ferry to The North Wall in grey primerfor fitting out by CIE. Well done to Noel for the conversion. I never mastered the art of cutting and splicing plastic coach sides, I will probably go for the option of Bill Bedford etched sides in combination with Comet MK 1 parts if I ever get round to building a van to run with my MM Craven coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Mayner said: The structural alterations to the coaches were carried out by British Rail possibly at Derby and delivered by train ferry to The North Wall in grey primerfor fitting out by CIE. Well done to Noel for the conversion. I never mastered the art of cutting and splicing plastic coach sides, I will probably go for the option of Bill Bedford etched sides in combination with Comet MK 1 parts if I ever get round to building a van to run with my MM Craven coaches. Thanks, you read my mind John. I have a set of Bill Bedford sides ready for the next project 3173 using Bachmann BCK donor. The brass sides are nice but lack surface relief features such as window frames, hinges, door handles, etc. There is also a set of double doors where there should be a single door (see below). The alternative is to cut'n'splice the Bachmann plastic sides or SSM may have 3173 BCK brass sides available in the new year which should have the correct single door and may have relief features such as window frames, etc. Bottom of pic Bill Bedford brass sides for 3173 and Bachmann BCK donor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 The Bill Bedford overlay has the correct door arrangement for the ex bck as used by CIE/I.E. the RPSI may have closed the double door during its overhaul in RPSI ownership. Great work on the recent BSK conversion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Good as it is, the Bill Bedford is overlay is inaccurate in that the double doors next to the guard’s door should be closer to that door by one door’s width. If you look at the BCK next to the overlay, you’ll see what I mean. The blank door of the pair is where the 1st class passenger door was. The RPSI BGSV has lost this blank door during the recent renovation. Hope that all makes sense. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks Stevie. Two photo sketches below showing mapping of BCK to GSV 3173 layout a) brass sides b) Bachmann BCK donor. At the moment I am leaning towards the plastic option of cutting and splicing Bachmann BCK donor sides rather than the brass which seems rather featureless. Bill Bedford sides Bachmann BCK donor Edited December 20, 2017 by Noel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 I used to absolutely hate applying waterslide transfers/decals. Fiddle/faddle, shakey hands, impossible eyesight, folded transfers, argggh. But through trial and error these past few months I'm just beginning to learn to cope with them. Despite what they say about using products like 'decalfix' to assist on matt surfaces, transfers are so much easier to apply and blend the edges on gloss finish and later matt varnish over them to seal. Finally finished the chassis numbers on the 20ft skeletal container wagons. Just a light weathering with RailMatch acrylics tomorrow and they will be ready to run under Bell containers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Finished the 20ft Bell container wagons. Coat of frame dirt for the wheels. Then a bit of light weathering for the wagons and springs. They look better dulled down with a bit of light frame dust Drilled the bases of the C-Rail Bell containers with four holes and tested each containers mounting holes aligned with every wagon. A fun and very simple kit to put together. Happy the way they turned out. Will post a video of the full rake in traffic at some stage. The Bell's themselves are now due a visit to the paint shop for a very light dusting to get rid of the clean 'toy' look. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Fantastic work! Incidentally, does anyone know why some Bell containers had white roofs, others navy and purple / pink like the sides, and others all-white? I think the all-white ones may have been refrigerated or insulated - but the other variants? Edited December 23, 2017 by jhb171achill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Fantastic work! Incidentally, does anyone know why some Bell containers had white roofs, others navy and purple / pink like the sides, and others all-white? I think the all-white ones may have been refrigerated or insulated - but the other variants? Thanks Jonathan. Somebody on here explained the reason for the white roofs last year and I vaguely remember it may have been to reflect heat, but I could be wrong. Photo of a BELL refrigerated container below, but it badly needs some weathering to get rid of the 'fisher price' toy look. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 They look just right, good job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Noel said: Thanks Jonathan. Somebody on here explained the reason for the white roofs last year and I vaguely remember it may have been to reflect heat, but I could be wrong. Ah! That would make perfect sense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanrail Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 23/10/2017 at 12:35 PM, Noel said: Side one: Body modified, now filler and rub down, see blemishes, refill and run down again Humbrol model filler seems to dry in a few hours and then files and sands very easily Side two: Completed modifications to other side. Twin doors swapped with window, two single doors filed flat ready for filler. Vent window squared off. Plastic panel RHS inserted to replace double doors moved where LHS 2nd window used to be. Next step filler, file, sand and first prime to reveal any blemishes. As these Lima roofs are snap fit and pop on and off really easily will leave interior for another day, but will have to make mods to under frame and source B5 bogies. Haven't really worked much with plastic card before but enjoying trying to figure it out. This is kind of fun. lovely work on your coach modifications. keep it up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Next up on the workbench will be some Silverfox resin kits I've collected over past year or two. A class B&T livery (rebuilt stepped orange band) - 071 donor chassis C class flying snail green Eau-de-nil livery - 141 donor chassis Sulzer 101 class flying snail green Eau-de-nil livery - Bachmann donor chassis (BR cl 24 sound project) Dutch GSV - RPSI green to run with their mk2 rake These may take some time. Will start by doing some of the common work on all four in parallel to save time. Then its cut'n'shut time for some centre drive donor chassis. Silverfox A + C class kits Silverfox Dutch GSV kit + B101 class Sulzer kit due for 'eau-de-Nil' flying snail green livery That'll keep me busy for a while 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shrives Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Good luck ! A large amount of work but I am sure end will be first class. Like you I have A to work on which will give the office lads time to procure the RTR one !!! Certainly the luxury chassis plan will give lots of power ! I think Kirley has contact for lovely whitemetal side frames for the A class which will really help. robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Four started. Spent a few hours removing flash and preparing these before first stage prime using Halford plastic grey primer in the spray booth. A few hours filing and sanding, but the resin bodies were in pretty good shape, mainly work to tidy up around the windows and buffer beams. The SF B101 sulzer will be first to get attention as next before any more painting there is the matter for fitting a cut'n'shut 071 donor chassis and figuring out how I can transfer the lighting from the 071. The chassis will need two cuts to shorten it each side of the motor so the cardan shafts will still be long enough to allow both bogies move freely when she goes around bends and over points. This is when it starts to get exciting . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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