airfixfan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Seen some photos on Facebook showing a lot of graffiti and vandalism of the main line stock stored there. Any one know what is happening and is the West Clare running again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 84C Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 My wife and I went to the West Clare in 2012 and I was surprised the locos were in a not very secure compound and not all of them well sheeted from the elements. I hope things have changed for the better there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Some good news Clare County Council approved a planning application for a 1506SqM Railway Museum at Moyasta during Nov 2019. https://www.planningalerts.ie/application?pref=555AA620181195A5C00024809833CEAC097DFD I don't know if the application relates solely to a museum/store for ITG stock or a West Clare MuseumThere is a €29.37 subscription to view the file on-line. The ITG had applied and failed to obtain planning permission several years ago as a large industrial (museum) building would have been out of keeping with the open (windswept) landscape of the area The ITG web site admits that some of the locos are long term restoration projects and some are simply stored as a source of spares. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 You can search the Clare Co Co website for planning applications. Just Putin Moyasta in the location field and museum in the description field and 3 applications are returned. The one in 2019 seems to be just for retention of PP granted back in 2010 but I didn't go into the files. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 The photos posted on Facebook were taken this week and showed a lot of severe vandalism to the mainly ex CIE rolling stock with many tarpaulins removed or damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 That's what you get when you leave stuff on an unsecured area in plain sight by the side of a main road. It's like you're asking for it to be interfered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Maybe it's just me, but I continue to find it remarkable that Mayner, in New Zealand is first to flag up news from County Clare. Such is the power of the Web in enabling us to share knowledge - even if not all of it is interesting like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexford70 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Is it ITG or Jackie Whelan looking to create the museum? What is the relationship between them does anyone know? https://clarechampion.ie/wheels-turning-for-west-clare-railway-expansion/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Wexford70 said: Is it ITG or Jackie Whelan looking to create the museum? What is the relationship between them does anyone know? The museum is Jackie Whelan's project, as is the rest of the operation at Moyasta. The ITG stock is there with the intention of being housed in the museum when it is constructed. There were no other feasible alternatives at the time the ITG had to vacate Inchicore Works. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Good to hear the locos will be sheltered indoors from the corrosive sea air there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexford70 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Garfield said: The museum is Jackie Whelan's project, as is the rest of the operation at Moyasta. The ITG stock is there with the intention of being housed in the museum when it is constructed. There were no other feasible alternatives at the time the ITG had to vacate Inchicore Works. The wikipedia page for the ITG suggested something different: "The group is also building a museum at Moyasta on the West Clare Railway to hold some of their locomotives. At present four locomotives, A3R, 124, 152, and 190 are located in Moyasta." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traction_Group#External_links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wexford70 said: The wikipedia page for the ITG suggested something different: "The group is also building a museum at Moyasta on the West Clare Railway to hold some of their locomotives. At present four locomotives, A3R, 124, 152, and 190 are located in Moyasta." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traction_Group#External_links I wouldn't be relying on Wikipedia for definitive information. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Beckett Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Garfield said: I wouldn't be relying on Wikipedia for definitive information. Quite. The ITG are not building a museum but are supportive of Jackie's efforts, he has faced many hurdles and does not get much support from any quarter, least of Internet and social media commentators, and souvenir hunters who trespass and break bits off our locos to take home or sell. As to the success or otherwise of his venture, I don't know. If someone else has a railway or a secure storage site that they can provide and pay for, we would be delighted to hear from you. Edited July 21, 2020 by Mike Beckett 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Sorry guys from the photos posted on Facebook earlier this week all the ex CIE stock appeared to have been well trashed with photos inside coaches and Diesel locos for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, airfixfan said: Sorry guys from the photos posted on Facebook earlier this week all the ex CIE stock appeared to have been well trashed with photos inside coaches and Diesel locos for example. What photographs? I've seen images of the Mk3 DVT and A15, but the ITG locos are all under tarpaulins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERAILED Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 There's some unhealthy level of toxicity in the world of Irish railway preservation - I'm so glad to be long out of it. There's some pictures of Moyasta here - no date - but I suspect quite recent. http://www.industrialheritage.eu/2021/European-Year-Rail/ENDANGERED/IE/rolling-stock-at-Moyasta4 I moved on to check on the ITG and there's some appalling stuff about them posted by some Aussie (?) nutter on Facebook - evil people etc. They are probably responsible for Covid-19 too. There would be no standard gauge diesel preservation in Ireland were it not for the efforts of WISRA, GSRPS and head and shoulders above the rest - the evil ITG. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) The “eval ITG” (deliberately misrepresenting-spelt) came about as a humorous skit. This followed the appearance a few years ago of a Facebook page whose aim was to discredit the DCDR. At one point the ITG were described within this as “evil”. The FB page was mis-spelt, with poor grammar too. This led to banter between various people who knew the story, privately making fun of this FB page, along the lines of “Iff them Eval IT’G typeS do& nOT Restire theStesm Engin, We Will @proTEST....” etc etc.....! ......all written in that style! Edited July 25, 2020 by jhb171achill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 20/7/2020 at 10:14 AM, airfixfan said: Seen some photos on Facebook showing a lot of graffiti and vandalism of the main line stock stored there. Any one know what is happening and is the West Clare running again? Can you share the photos here, or at least a link to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 Sorry those photos have banished from FB since the last time I looked about a year ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just to update this project - yes, it's Jackie & Pauline Whelan who applied; the ITG are simply allowed an area to store their stuff. An initial funding application was prepared, submitted and processed, but rejected some time back. It is my understanding that the Whelans are still investigating other funding options, or "tweaking" the rejected application. The fact that they have planning permission will give a few "brownie points" to their funding application. Should their centre find funding and is built, the ITG will be allowed (indeed, encouraged) to display some of their items there, cosmetically restored, in perpetuity. Here's hoping.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexford70 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Some more photos here Unsure when taken. Edited October 17, 2021 by Wexford70 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Wexford70 said: Some more photos here Unsure when taken. Those photos will be great for the IRM lads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexford70 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 new photos on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/733162906774904/permalink/4403390716418753/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Roughly how much does one of those giant corrugated boxes that covers a loco or coach cost? Likewise how much do those giant tarps cost? I saw this lovely video on YouTube: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Is that two A class locos there? I think there's a black & tan one under a tarp (A3r?) as well as the green-liveried loco, does anyone know the loco number of the green one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Roughly how much does one of those giant corrugated boxes that covers a loco or coach cost? Likewise how much do those giant tarps cost? I saw this lovely video on YouTube: I love that these locos somehow survived the cutters torch and are just chilling out by kilkea. I really need to visit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Patrick Davey said: does anyone know the loco number of the green one? 015 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Blaine said: 015 Thanks - nice to have a model of it now too. Who owns it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Patrick Davey said: Thanks - nice to have a model of it now too. Who owns it? As far as I know, 015 is owned by Jackie Whelan, who operates the setup at Moyasta. There may be a few others involved, too. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 poor coaches, Were they tagged down there or before they arrived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Georgeconna said: poor coaches, Were they tagged down there or before they arrived? What do you know about tagging, eh? Sounds suspicious! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Georgeconna said: poor coaches, Were they tagged down there or before they arrived? They sat down in the Sherrif Street yard after being withdrawn from service as far as I know, so they may have arrived like that. Either way, at least they haven't been cut up! Edited November 2, 2021 by skinner75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 16 hours ago, Garfield said: As far as I know, 015 is owned by Jackie Whelan, who operates the setup at Moyasta. There may be a few others involved, too. Correct, plus the usual facebook heroes wanting to restore it to mainline condition. Was originally preserved in place of 001 by Irish Rail but quickly turned in a spares box for 003/039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Junction Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 2/11/2021 at 9:51 AM, skinner75 said: They sat down in the Sherrif Street yard after being withdrawn from service as far as I know, so they may have arrived like that. Either way, at least they haven't been cut up! Another year or two and they may as well be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 The ex NIR Gatwick coaches at Dundalk were noted to be in very poor condition now on Wednesfay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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