Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

[DJ Dangerous]

On 7/5/2023 at 2:22 PM, Colin R said:

Bandon tanks er? well SSM do an etched kit...

 

Just for reference, @Weshty's Bandon tank and other locos can be ordered here:

http://www.studio-scale-models.com/Locos.shtml

The SSM email bounces everything back but he does attend to the other email address listed.

[DiveController]

On 11/5/2023 at 3:44 AM, Niles said:

1944 in the early green at Downpatrick. And yes, I know that technically it wouldn't have carried this livery as a brake conversion or with the plated over windows but it's actually one of the very early ones (originally numbered 1381, so the 3rd in the batch) so quite likely would have been one of the ones to carry it.

Given the RPSI ones generally carried the lighter green it's something different anyway.

Well , if memory serves it became second in the batch after 1380 was converted to AM14.Wasn't 1381 refurbished to 1944 after being involved in the Cheryville accident?

EDIT: On reviewing the 1987 list of stock it looks like in addition the following coaches are missing from the PR 1379- sequence and may be the ones converted to TL brakes coaches 1941-8 c.1984.

1381, 1382, 1392, 1393, 1397, 1412, 1414

I presume that 1380 and 1408 were still AM 14 & AM 15 (c 1971) or had they been retired? I don't see them listed  in 1987 but I seem to be short of a brake coache above. Maybe one from the 1420 series?

1419 which had been Snack 2423 until c 1984? was back in the regular PR fleet 

Edited May 12, 2023 by DiveController

[DJ Dangerous]

So, now that the IR livery Mk2B/C coaches are starting to land with people, and the NIR and RPSI Mk2B/C coaches are now homely, what's the word on Project Park Royal?

Will the H Vans and Grain Hoppers be skipping ahead of the Park Royals?

Will the Park Royals pip the ICR's to the post?

Will the sluggish Canarian dispatch of my own IR livery Mk2's be here before the next IRM project arrives in stock?

Tune in next month to find out!

[jhb171achill]

On 6/5/2023 at 10:07 AM, Barl said:

We were only there on Monday funnily enough, had a good look at the coaches given the announcement the day before! 

Janey mac, can they not get the livery even half right!

[Warbonnet]

decorated park royals and full update due in the next 4 weeks! 

[Mayner]

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

So, now that the IR livery Mk2B/C coaches are starting to land with people, and the NIR and RPSI Mk2B/C coaches are now homely, what's the word on Project Park Royal?

Will the H Vans and Grain Hoppers be skipping ahead of the Park Royals?

Will the Park Royals pip the ICR's to the post?

Will the sluggish Canarian dispatch of my own IR livery Mk2's be here before the next IRM project arrives in stock?

Tune in next month to find out!

I ordered some packs of Bulleid Opens together with a single Park Royal, hopefully some day they will arrive together. 

 

[murphaph]

29 minutes ago, Mayner said:

I ordered some packs of Bulleid Opens together with a single Park Royal, hopefully some day they will arrive together. 

 

You should probably send them a support mail John as you are specifically asked not to combine pre-orders from different product lines in case one line arrives much later than the other and the first line is out of stock before the second line arrives. Stock is not held for a customer until all the pre-orders are in stock AFAIK so your open wagons might be sold to someone else if you don't sort it out with a request for support. There are only a handful left in stock so get your skates on

Edited July 12, 2024 by murphaph

[Niles]

53 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Janey mac, can they not get the livery even half right!

@Cyberbeagle and I spent considerable time researching the subject of how many eau de nil lines the dark green ones carried when repainting 1944 at Downpatrick—the evidence we found suggests only one.

And yes, contrary to what many say, a few of them DID carry the dark green (and with 1944/1381 being the third in class, it's quite likely it was one of them).

[jhb171achill]

29 minutes ago, Niles said:

@Cyberbeagle and I spent considerable time researching the subject of how many eau de nil lines the dark green ones carried when repainting 1944 at Downpatrick—the evidence we found suggests only one.

And yes, contrary to what many say, a few of them DID carry the dark green (and with 1944/1381 being the third in class, it's quite likely it was one of them).

Yes, only one!

[MOGUL]

1 hour ago, Mayner said:

I ordered some packs of Bulleid Opens together with a single Park Royal, hopefully some day they will arrive together. 

 

Hi John,

as @murphaphhelpfully said, best course is to contact our support team with your order number. For orders with products from multiple lines, our system will only fulfil the order once all the items are in stock and we have to manually intervene to split the orders upon receiving a request from the customer

Regards

Andrew 

[DJ Dangerous]

22 minutes ago, MOGUL said:

Hi John,

as @murphaphhelpfully said, best course is to contact our support team with your order number. For orders with products from multiple lines, our system will only fulfil the order once all the items are in stock and we have to manually intervene to split the orders upon receiving a request from the customer

Regards

Andrew 

 

So, you're saying that we can force IRM to operate a Trunk Service for us by adding something not expected for a long time to our basket?

[GSR 800]

Anything on the Park Royals?

[DJ Dangerous]

11 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

Anything on the Park Royals?

 

There must be some sort of update due on these soon enough. Gonna go out on a limb and say Q1 or Q2 delivery?

[GSR 800]

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

There must be some sort of update due on these soon enough. Gonna go out on a limb and say Q1 or Q2 delivery?

There was an update due 7 weeks ago

On 12/7/2024 at 11:44 AM, Warbonnet said:

decorated park royals and full update due in the next 4 weeks! 

 

[DJ Dangerous]

6 minutes ago, GSR 800 said:

There was an update due 7 weeks ago

 

 

Yup, that's why I think there has to be one soon. Although the "due in the next 4 weeks" bit was ambiguously worded enough to be non-committal.

Probably not on a Sunday, though.

[derek]

2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Yup, that's why I think there has to be one soon. Although the "due in the next 4 weeks" bit was ambiguously worded enough to be non-committal.

Probably not on a Sunday, though.

saying nothin

[DJ Dangerous]

8 minutes ago, derek said:

saying nothin

 

I'm sure that Marks' will have them in stock when they arrive.

 

On 12/7/2024 at 7:35 PM, derek said:

Yeah, I actually cancelled my preordered Park Royals . All the wagons arriving ahead of them was a bit of a pain, given that the Royals were ordered about ten years ago it seems. After I obtained some Cravens it really made my mind up to cancel. In fairness if I hadn't got the Cravens, I would have hung on. And on..............

 

 

 

[derek]

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

I'm sure that Marks' will have them in stock when they arrive.

 

 

 

 

Dave , you must have very big spoons with the amount of stirring you are doing

[DJ Dangerous]

1 minute ago, derek said:

Dave , you must have very big spoons with the amount of stirring you are doing

I'm saying nothin'!

[Warbonnet]

Hi folks,

Decorated samples are being prepped. We currently await them and will provide a full update when they land with us. 

each coach is coming with a big wooden spoon. Thankfully Derek already has one, so he wont miss out now he has cancelled his order, he'll just miss out one the nicest Irish coach model to date (well, neck and neck with our Mark 2s!)

Cheers!

Fran

[DJ Dangerous]

5 minutes ago, Warbonnet said:

Hi folks,

Decorated samples are being prepped. We currently await them and will provide a full update when they land with us. 

each coach is coming with a big wooden spoon. Thankfully Derek already has one, so he wont miss out now he has cancelled his order, he'll just miss out one the nicest Irish coach model to date (well, neck and neck with our Mark 2s!)

Cheers!

Fran

 

You win the internet today!

[Broithe]

Those engaged in the dentistry industry may already have their own handy, pocket-sized IRM spoon.

[derek]

8 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

Hi folks,

Decorated samples are being prepped. We currently await them and will provide a full update when they land with us. 

each coach is coming with a big wooden spoon. Thankfully Derek already has one, so he wont miss out now he has cancelled his order, he'll just miss out one the nicest Irish coach model to date (well, neck and neck with our Mark 2s!)

Cheers!

Fran

Ah shur, I said I was saying nothin.  And it's Dave needs the spoon. I'm sure the coaches will be beautiful, but I don't really need a lot of stock, and with the cravens I got I will be just fine. No really. I will just be over here in the corner silently sobbing Best of luck with them

[Fowler4f]

Park Royal coaches are now in production. Another step forward !

[GM073]

What's the latest with delivery, seems like I've been waiting years...

Thanks,

Alan

[Mol_PMB]

3 minutes ago, GM073 said:

What's the latest with delivery, seems like I've been waiting years...

Thanks,

Alan

Good question, they're shown as 2025 Q2 on the status page, but not in transit yet, so I hope they have a fast ship!

https://www.accurascale.com/pages/projects

 

[mphoey]

Are the park royals due next month as site is saying quarter 2

[Horsetan]

On 28/5/2025 at 6:16 PM, mphoey said:

Are the park royals due next month as site is saying quarter 2

Probably more towards the end of the year.

[GSR 800]

On 28/5/2025 at 6:16 PM, mphoey said:

Are the park royals due next month as site is saying quarter 2

payment due in september

[Ironroad]

3 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

payment due in september

Some inconsistency in that, I've already been asked for payment, and paid

[west_clare_wanderer]

Another stupid question... 

Are the suburban Park Royals suitable for representing a branchline train in the west - Kerry, Clare, Limerick, Cork etc - in the 1970s?

I don't have much space but I'm thinking a solitary Park Royal could do the job for my branchline layout. 

As always, thank you in advance for any advice. 

 

[Mol_PMB]

I'd say a Park Royal would be quite plausible rolling stock for a branchline in that area in the mid-late 1970s (and indeed the 1980s), and the suburban ones weren't limited to Dublin.

At that time, it wouldn't be solo: there would have to be a heating/guards van of some sort, and probably another passenger coach or two almost certainly of a different type (hopefully with a toilet!). As a starting point for your rake, the Park Royal is a wise purchase, and it looks like they will be super models.

Services of that nature would be Limerick to Junction, Ballybrophy and Waterford/Rosslare, also Cork to Tralee and Cork-Cobh.

Jonathan Allen has some superb photos on Flickr from this era.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/albums/

 

[Mol_PMB]

The second vehicle in that train appears to be a brake second, converted from a composite built in the 1950s. That should provide some more seats, a toilet and a the guard’s facilities. It does not appear to have a steam-heat boiler or generator but it’s April so perhaps warm enough to do without. 
Some of these brake second conversions did have boilers, but the lack of hatches and exhausts on the roof suggests this one did not. Here’s another shot of the same train from Jonathan:

https://flic.kr/p/2nmq55N

 

Edited yesterday at 09:22 by Mol_PMB

[west_clare_wanderer]

4 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

I'd say a Park Royal would be quite plausible rolling stock for a branchline in that area in the mid-late 1970s (and indeed the 1980s), and the suburban ones weren't limited to Dublin.

At that time, it wouldn't be solo: there would have to be a heating/guards van of some sort, and probably another passenger coach or two almost certainly of a different type (hopefully with a toilet!). As a starting point for your rake, the Park Royal is a wise purchase, and it looks like they will be super models.

Services of that nature would be Limerick to Junction, Ballybrophy and Waterford/Rosslare, also Cork to Tralee and Cork-Cobh.

Jonathan Allen has some superb photos on Flickr from this era.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/albums/

 

 

Mol,

As always, thank you so much! I'm always so grateful for your help and input. 

That's really useful to know. The era certainly allows for plenty of variety. Before the days of standardised fixed rakes of rolling stock and block trains. 

I've just spent an hour or so happily perusing Jonathan Allen's photographs. I'm going to lose lots of time in that fantastic resource. 

Of course, I should have added that it would be paired with a steam heating van or brake. There are some lovely shots of short trains in the '70s with that kind of set up.  

There's also some wonderful photos a little further north of the Loughrea line, just before it closed, with a G Class and solitary coach. Now that's the essence of a branchline! 

I've also toyed with trying to pick up a Cravens to go with a Park Royal. 

Thank you again. You're a gent!

David 

Edited yesterday at 13:27 by west_clare_wanderer

[jhb171achill]

3 hours ago, west_clare_wanderer said:

 

Mol,

As always, thank you so much! I'm always so grateful for your help and input. 

That's really useful to know. The era certainly allows for plenty of variety. Before the days of standardised fixed rakes of rolling stock and block trains. 

I've just spent an hour or so happily perusing Jonathan Allen's photographs. I'm going to lose lots of time in that fantastic resource. 

Of course, I should have added that it would be paired with a steam heating van or brake. There are some lovely shots of short trains in the '70s with that kind of set up.  

There's also some wonderful photos a little further north of the Loughrea line, just before it closed, with a G Class and solitary coach. Now that's the essence of a branchline! 

I've also toyed with trying to pick up a Cravens to go with a Park Royal. 

Thank you again. You're a gent!

David 

Loughrea will feature at a book launch hopefully planned for Saturday 1st November, the 50th anniversary of the last train there. Quite a few rolling stock photos in it, too.