Join IRM At The Dublin Model Railway Exhibition This October Bank Holiday For All New Locomotive Announcement

[GSR 800]

It'd be pretty funny if IRM pulled out the Woolwiches.

Plenty of variants there, including the 6ft driver type, and for Accurascale there's been no British N class model for well over 20 years!

It would also allow them to expand to the U class, the N1s, and the K class tanks.

Not very likely, but food for thought...

[Westcorkrailway]

2 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

It'd be pretty funny if IRM pulled out the Woolwiches.

Plenty of variants there, including the 6ft driver type, and for Accurascale there's been no British N class model for well over 20 years!

It would also allow them to expand to the U class, the N1s, and the K class tanks.

Not very likely, but food for thought...

It’s food for thought, certainly seems like an open goal but how much are 2nd class K class locos are on the market and how much are they selling for. 
 

[jhb171achill]

3 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

It’s food for thought, certainly seems like an open goal but how much are 2nd class K class locos are on the market and how much are they selling for. 
 

 

6 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

It'd be pretty funny if IRM pulled out the Woolwiches.

Plenty of variants there, including the 6ft driver type, and for Accurascale there's been no British N class model for well over 20 years!

It would also allow them to expand to the U class, the N1s, and the K class tanks.

Not very likely, but food for thought...

Certainly IS food for thought. And to add to variety, the Woolwiches were about the only class within which all three CIE livery variations could be found - the green, grey and black.

1.  GSR / CIE all-grey, with numberplate

2.  CIE all-grey with painted number (variants with or without flying snails on tenders). One or two anyway retained grey to the end.

3.  Lined green  - certain examples only, they weren't all green.

4.  Plain black - only a few examples.

5.  Lined black - carried by a single one for no more than about 18 months, for the Rosslare Express.

And the period of their operation spans brand-new GSR days in 1925, to the very early 1960s. A good stretch by any standard.

But overall, yes, there is much to be said for a new IRM-standard model of one of those. Trouble for me is, I've three Bachmann ones.....!

[Colin_McLeod]

 

On 12/10/2024 at 10:34 PM, leslie10646 said:

For those of those of us with long memories, ModelU could be commissioned to make models of the each of the drivers and firemen who worked on the Stone Trains - (Saint Thomas) Tommy Crymble, Billy Steenson, Harry Ramsay, Alan Robinson, "Batman" Simpson, Big Dan McAtamany, Willie Graham, Gerry Phelan, Barney McCrory ........

 

Now that's something I would buy.  Don't even need to do a loco.

 

Serious suggestion;

How about an IRM Jeep hauling a rake of IRM spoil wagons and a second Jeep at the rear? 

 

 

Edited October 16 by Colin_McLeod
Duplication of text

[John-r]

2 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Serious suggestion;

How about an IRM Jeep hauling a rake of IRM spoil wagons and a second Jeep at the rear? 

Now, that would be the ultimate wishlist, as well as the Hunslets I might add. Having said that, I have built, with more to do,the Provincial wagons spoil wagons (having watched the real one's growing up), and have thoroughly enjoyed building them, well done Leslie.  A few years ago at one of the shows can't remember which one, their was someone, again can't remember who, they had two jeeps pulling a long take of spoil wagons, impressive to say the least.

[leslie10646]

11 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said:

 

 

Now that's something I would buy.  Don't even need to do a loco.

 

Serious suggestion;

How about an IRM Jeep hauling a rake of IRM spoil wagons and a second Jeep at the rear? 

 

 

John beat me to it - thanks, John - So what's wrong with my Spoil wagon kit - apart from that you have to build it? Over 220 in service and a new order for half a dozen today! (Thanks Damien!).

[Colin_McLeod]

14 hours ago, leslie10646 said:

John beat me to it - thanks, John - So what's wrong with my Spoil wagon kit - apart from that you have to build it? Over 220 in service and a new order for half a dozen today! (Thanks Damien!).

Nothing wrong with your kit.  I have six of them hauled by an MIR Hunslet in NIR light blue livery as a ballast train.

However rtr is popular among those who are short of expertise and/or time to build kits.

[leslie10646]

Yes, Colin, so you have! Thanks for buying them.

IRM will have fun doing it as a wagon, as no drawings appear to exist.

We didn't quite make it up, but a NORWEGIAN friend had made some measurements and with his permission, I'll pass them on - I'll act as his agent to negotiate a price!

[John-r]

Sorry to go slightly of topic,  did any of the spoil wagons survive into preservation or private ownership ! , be an awful shame if not.

[Galteemore]

45 minutes ago, John-r said:

Sorry to go slightly of topic,  did any of the spoil wagons survive into preservation or private ownership ! , be an awful shame if not.

All cut up in the 90s afaik. Not much use to preservationists. If rumours are true, one or two survive at the end of a very overgrown - and inaccessible - disconnected siding at Magheramorne ….

[John-r]

Thanks very much for the reply Galteemore.  Preservation at its best.

[BEANO3005]

Just maybe IRM are ahead of the class and catch everyone with an all new multi powered battery/electric Dart+ unit. 

[derek]

49 minutes ago, BEANO3005 said:

Just maybe IRM are ahead of the class and catch everyone with an all new multi powered battery/electric Dart+ unit. 

Why oh why does everything electric have to be so damn ugly. Ugly electric cars and now this monstrosity

[DSERetc]

On 17/10/2024 at 2:43 PM, leslie10646 said:

 

We didn't quite make it up, but a NORWEGIAN friend  ....

A NORWEGIAN in Belfast.     Overheard in a Belfast pub "I'll just have a NORWEGIAN!"

DSERetc

[leslie10646]

On 19/10/2024 at 6:49 PM, BEANO3005 said:

Just maybe IRM are ahead of the class and catch everyone with an all new multi powered battery/electric Dart+ unit. 

No, It's a Class WT.

I've just ordered 1,000 Spoil Wagon kits which will be sent to the Philippines to be built in time for the iRM Christmas 2025 Boxed Set Offer -

TWO Class WTs

Twenty Spoil wagons as a Boxed Set,

complete with oval of track and a few points

and a Loading Bank

so that you can have the whole Stone Train operation on your layout.

Locos with sound, of course - digitally controlled from "Loud" to "Very, Very Loud" so that you can imitate the train going up the bank through Trooperslane.

 

[Niles]

On 19/10/2024 at 6:49 PM, BEANO3005 said:

Just maybe IRM are ahead of the class and catch everyone with an all new multi powered battery/electric Dart+ unit. 

I have one my Dad's old Railway Modellers from the early 80s which reviews Hornby's then new Class 58 model and discusses how it pre-empted the prototype, which had yet to debut. I believe it turned out there were some flaws but still.

[Colin_McLeod]

Wasn’t it the same with the Hornby Dublo Deltic?

[Patrick Davey]

So did anyone sleep last night?

[MOGUL]

1 hour ago, Patrick Davey said:

So did anyone sleep last night?

Very well thank you..

But I had the benefit of already knowing, and a drop of whiskey before bed! 
 

 

[Galteemore]

I see the news is out. Excellent choice, and logical too….

[Mayner]

19 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

I see the news is out. Excellent choice, and logical too….

What a dilemma, I was blown away when I sneaked into Amiens St 50 odd years ago and first saw the train and always wanted one although totally outside of my main area of interest and over committed financially what do I do? 

Keep away from electronic media, lock myself in the shed until I complete all my unfinished modelling projects?

Edited October 26 by Mayner

[Galteemore]

6 minutes ago, Mayner said:

What a dilemma, I was blown away when I sneaked into Amiens St 50 odd years ago and first saw the train and always wanted one although totally outside of my main area of interest and over committed financially what do I do? 

Keep away from electronic media, lock myself in the shed until I complete all my unfinished modelling projects?

John - know what you mean. I find the only antidote is to model in 7mm scale to 36.75mm gauge. If IRM decide to launch a range in those parameters I’m done for! 

[Tullygrainey]

39 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

John - know what you mean. I find the only antidote is to model in 7mm scale to 36.75mm gauge. If IRM decide to launch a range in those parameters I’m done for! 

Sticking with 4mm but focusing on the BCDR works too!

[Flying Snail]

So its not the jeep, but I think the Hunslet is a nice choice - makes sense with the Mk2b's too, and it will do well for IRM.

 

And I'm not writing off the jeep just yet - I think I saw @Warbonnet say on Facebook that the Irish steam announcement is due in early 2025?

[DiveController]

On 9/10/2024 at 2:37 AM, murphaph said:

Well the Mark's Jinty is cheap and available now but of course they didn't really leave Belfast harbour so that may limit their attractiveness but I bought one to put in the display case. I think I'd like the C Class and I think that's sort of inevitable but maybe not yet. I'll be happy with whatever it is I think

Where did the Marks Special Commission come from? I have the original one (by Bachmann iirc). these seem to beHOrnby and are not DCC ready either.....

[Westcorkrailway]

On 19/10/2024 at 6:49 PM, BEANO3005 said:

Just maybe IRM are ahead of the class and catch everyone with an all new multi powered battery/electric Dart+ unit. 

Good prediction…wrong manufacturer!

[DiveController]

On 26/10/2024 at 8:16 AM, Flying Snail said:

So its not the jeep, but I think the Hunslet is a nice choice - makes sense with the Mk2b's too, and it will do well for IRM.

 

And I'm not writing off the jeep just yet - I think I saw @Warbonnet say on Facebook that the Irish steam announcement is due in early 2025?

I realize that they said a locomotive announcement and not necessarily steam. Love the Hunslet but the whole 'Irish steam' model development is getting as old as the prototypes.

I am NOT wishing for a Jeep but knowing the IRM strategy of model development, that may well come to pass. Anyway off now to check out the SHOP for some Hunslets by NIRM 

Edited October 27 by DiveController

[Horsetan]

On 14/10/2024 at 5:36 AM, GSR 800 said:

It'd be pretty funny if IRM pulled out the Woolwiches.

Plenty of variants there, including the 6ft driver type, and for Accurascale there's been no British N class model for well over 20 years!

It would also allow them to expand to the U class, the N1s, and the K class tanks.

Not very likely, but food for thought...

The Woolwiches were a good six inches wider than the N they originated from. Also the K1a/393 were given 6' drivers.

The SR U had a different wheelbase and boiler pitch to the N/Woolwiches, and were subdivided into low or high footplate depending on whether rebuilt from the K tanks (longer frames behind the rear axle) or built new as Moguls.

The N1s are probably the easiest variant of the N, but again there are differences in front footplate, cab front, and no. 822 in particular had a somewhat different valve gear arrangement.

Maunsell Moguls are not easy to model, even though they look superficially similar. Kit manufacturers do get it wrong, especially when trying to portray the U. 

[LNERW1]

27 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Good prediction…wrong manufacturer!

Context? Has someone made the Alstom DARTs?

[Westcorkrailway]

26 minutes ago, LNERW1 said:

Context? Has someone made the Alstom DARTs?

Yup. Murphy models 

[LNERW1]

Wow, I missed that.

and yet @murrayec is the only brave soul to make 8100s. I’d take his over any RTR offering though, I know it’s made by a skilled modeller and not a machine in China.

Where can you get the MM units?

[murphaph]

3 minutes ago, LNERW1 said:

Wow, I missed that.

and yet @murrayec is the only brave soul to make 8100s. I’d take his over any RTR offering though, I know it’s made by a skilled modeller and not a machine in China.

Where can you get the MM units?

Eoin is a unique craftsman/engineer/artist indeed but I think it's a little unfair to say that modern RTR models are made by a machine in China. They have (very many) parts made by machine that need to be assembled by hand. Anyone who has taken one apart and reassembled it again can testify to that. No machine can yet do this intricate work.

The MM units will not be available for sale for quite some time through their usual retailers I presume. IRM, Mark's etc.

[BosKonay]

4 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Eoin is a unique craftsman/engineer/artist indeed but I think it's a little unfair to say that modern RTR models are made by a machine in China. They have (very many) parts made by machine that need to be assembled by hand. Anyone who has taken one apart and reassembled it again can testify to that. No machine can yet do this intricate work.

The MM units will not be available for sale for quite some time through their usual retailers I presume. IRM, Mark's etc.

RTR models are hand assembled and hand painted. Best model makers on earth live over there. bar none. 

[LNERW1]

I’m going to cut this off because I don’t like starting arguments. Thanks.

also I’m not saying rtr stuff is shite but I’d prefer to support a dedicated modeller than a company as large as IRM/accurascale. That’s all, thank you, please don’t make this a big spat, thank you.

[BosKonay]

13 minutes ago, LNERW1 said:

I’m going to cut this off because I don’t like starting arguments. Thanks.

also I’m not saying rtr stuff is shite but I’d prefer to support a dedicated modeller than a company as large as IRM/accurascale. That’s all, thank you, please don’t make this a big spat, thank you.

A company like IRM is literally a bunch of modellers who are extremely dedicated to the point of making it their livelihoods. 

I’m a huge fan of cottage industry and think it’s vital for a thriving hobby but model companies are not big corporations (bachmann and hornby aside)