richrua Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 v nice drawing. If I can get the sheckles together I will get one more set I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi,this newbie will answer this for you. The bottom of the hopper is indeed asymmetrical, and this fact surprised me when I did the measurements and photo survey. It took a little time to get my head round it to be honest. There is only 1 door per half of the hopper, opened very cleverly by the hand wheel adjacent. Turning this operated a screw link that operates a pivot that operates another pivot that 'cracks open' the hopper door. It is hinged from the outer edge of the door, opening close to the offset centre line. I've had fun doing this wagon and apart from 1 or 2 un mouldable features it's pretty close to the real thing. It's very enigmatic, that's for sure. Cheers Dave Dave welcome to the group. I have watched your work with your previous employer and wish you every success with your own company. I am delighted that you are on board with this project. Your willingness to interact with your customers brought a real breath of fresh air into the hobby and it shows you care. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Phew, I can rest easy now. I wasn't trying to put the model down, but that error just jumped out & hit the 'eye', the down side to being a draughtsman I guess. Cheers, Mike C Mike I know you from this and previous incarnations and I know that you care strongly about the little details that really set a great model apart from a good model. I share these views also. I can guarantee that the folks involved with this project will deliver a top model and set new standards. Each of the lads involved are also hobbyist's and will put into this what they would do in their professional lives. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The CAD images look very impressive. It's pretty instructive having the various parts picked out in different colors for those not used to looking at the mechanical aspect of the wagons. I think I finally understand some basic things like how the manual and vacuum braking systems actually work, the vacuum pipe diverting round one side of the wagon etc. This probably seems pretty basic and intuitive to modelers more familiar with rolling stock having had opportunity to be closer to the wagons due to career, or longevity as railway enthusiasts etc. Of course it's hard to find a shot of the prototype from this angle.I'm not sure if the discharge doors underneath open symmetrically on both sides or there are doors on only one side only? Still working out where these are hinged etc? Looking forward to these even more now:-bd It's nice to see someone taking a real interest in the operating side of the wagons. These details do matter to lot's of people and it's nice to see another modeller getting hooked. Top marks Dive, no homework tonight. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cheers Rich, we appreciate all the feedback and interaction. On a side note, there is an interesting development for the 21mm'ers. The wagon as you know is designed to prototype so it means the leaf springs and axle box are out to their original locations. We haven't squashed them in to suit underscale track. There is a little collar, about 2mm deep, like a piece of a cotton bud shank just outside the bearing itself. Removing this from either axle box will allow clearance for a 21mm wheelset, which should pop into the bearing behind. No need for top hat or brass bearings Richie. I had a good feeling that would be the case Richie. Fair play for including all prospective customers, I appreciate it, but wouldn't expect anything less from yourselves. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Sign me up for a pack lads. Pros have WAY outwayed the cons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I've caved and added another pack to the list. Damn you and your excellent products /broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Hi,this newbie will answer this for you. The bottom of the hopper is indeed asymmetrical, and this fact surprised me when I did the measurements and photo survey. It took a little time to get my head round it to be honest. There is only 1 door per half of the hopper, opened very cleverly by the hand wheel adjacent. Turning this operated a screw link that operates a pivot that operates another pivot that 'cracks open' the hopper door. It is hinged from the outer edge of the door, opening close to the offset centre line. I've had fun doing this wagon and apart from 1 or 2 un mouldable features it's pretty close to the real thing. It's very enigmatic, that's for sure. Cheers Dave Newbie indeed. Hi Dave, welcome to the forum and thanks for posting. Thanks for that description, makes perfect sense now. It's nice to see someone taking a real interest in the operating side of the wagons. These details do matter to lot's of people and it's nice to see another modeller getting hooked. Top marks Dive, no homework tonight.Rich, Many thanks, Rich. Comment appreciated v nice drawing. If I can get the sheckles together I will get one more set I think. I'd get the deposit down on it, Rich, the shekels have a way of turning up on time for delivery. I ordered another rake for gypsums. Oh, boy! Edited January 20, 2016 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks for the suport guys, am doing a tally this morning but we're rapidly approaching single digits of packs remaining... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks for the suport guys, am doing a tally this morning but we're rapidly approaching single digits of packs remaining... So.... when are you starting to take orders for the bubbles:-bd Have to say, that has to be some vote of confidence for a product to sell out that no one has actually laid eyes on the finished article. Although the latest CAD drawings do look great. I'd buy a few more sets myself but I'm waiting for the bank to issue a replacement credit card, hope it gets to me in time. Of all the times for it to go missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks for the suport guys, am doing a tally this morning but we're rapidly approaching single digits of packs remaining... F this is the case would it not make sense to increase the production quantities. Surely it would be useful to have some extra I presume since the tooling will be paid off , you could rerun at a later stage , potentially even at a slightly lower cost Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 That is some tasty CAD detail. If that's all going to be on the model, hubba hubba! And if the proof of the pudding is in the eating, then the goodwill on this project is reflected in the number of kits preordered. Money where mouth is etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 F this is the case would it not make sense to increase the production quantities. Surely it would be useful to have some extra I presume since the tooling will be paid off , you could rerun at a later stage , potentially even at a slightly lower cost Dave There will be another run if demand is there. Looking at things I'd say it's sure thing. I don't think they ever dreamed of selling out before production even started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) F this is the case would it not make sense to increase the production quantities. Surely it would be useful to have some extra I presume since the tooling will be paid off , you could rerun at a later stage , potentially even at a slightly lower cost Dave Some of the packs will have been purchased for sale on the secondary market so I am sure they will become available at some point. Additional personal requirements may be satisfied in this fashion, so we'll see about a re-run. With demand this high it would have been nice to have the wagons in a slightly different finish like the gypsums. Easy enough to fix, I guess. Since everything has sold pre-production there will be no need to have these in the model shops as potentially contemplated earlier in the thread. The chassis (as I understand it) is common to several of the freights so by undoing those two screws on the underside another body could be mounted on top. Potentially this should make production of anything else mounted on the same chassis cheaper due to reduced tooling costs. We shall know in time, no doubt. Edited January 21, 2016 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 From reviewing the order books, I really don't foresee anyone purchasing any for the secondary market. Most are going for the 3 pack option, so don't expect fleabay to be selling them singly. Doing a second run is easy enough provided there is demand, but take it easy on the speculation folks. The chassis (as I understand it) is common to several of the freights so by undoing those two screws on the underside another body could be mounted on top. Potentially this should make production of anything else mounted on the same chassis cheaper due to reduced tooling costs. We shall know in time, no doubt. That is why it took so long to get it right. We had to do the CAD work for both wagons at the same time so that we know that the bubble will fit perfectly into the ballast chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo325ci Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Went to buy some and it says out of stock! Sorry I missed these but delighted for the lads they sold so well! Good job fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Went to buy some and it says out of stock! Sorry I missed these but delighted for the lads they sold so well! Good job fellas! CIE/IR/IE two-axle ballast wagon multi-pack €110.00 A three-wagon pack of the iconic two-axle ballast/mineral wagon. Features: NEM coupling housing RP25.110 darkened profile wheel sets with 14.4mm back to backs, and 26mm over pin points Etched steel factory fitted parts Extra fine factory fitted detail plastic parts DJModels ‘Quick Load’ ballast load Individual lettering from real wagons for authenticity Out of stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ordered mine just in time then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Went to buy some and it says out of stock! Sorry I missed these but delighted for the lads they sold so well! Good job fellas! Hi Jimbo, there's currently a small glitch on the website we're working on at the moment. We havent quite sold out yet you'll be glad to hear! We'll have it resolved later this morning but you'll have to be quick on the draw as we only have a few left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 The last dozen or so packs are now available on the site again! http://irishrailwaymodels.com/index.php/product/cie-ir-ie-two-axle-ballast-wagon-multi-pack/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo325ci Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The last dozen or so packs are now available on the site again! http://irishrailwaymodels.com/index.php/product/cie-ir-ie-two-axle-ballast-wagon-multi-pack/ Excellent thanks. Order gone in for 2 packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks Jimbo, Last 3 packs are now available - last three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks Jimbo, Last 3 packs are now available - last three! That's fantastic! Sold out, almost. Looking forward to seeing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo325ci Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Very impressive lads, sold out in almost 3 months to the week! You've obviously been listening to what people want. Looking forward to future releases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Can't wait for the cement bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Very impressive lads, sold out in almost 3 months to the week! You've obviously been listening to what people want. Looking forward to future releases! Well done everybody. Never did 'build them and they shall come' have more meaning. Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Congrats, gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 pack left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 pack left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just bought a pack - if that's the last one, have cup of tea lads - and then get on with the bubbles! Is it feasible to make sure that this pack is differently numbered to the first pack that I bought a while back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 It was indeed Broithe - congrats - Orders are now closed At the moment, the initial batch of 333 packs will all have the same numbers (it;s the manufacturers minimum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richrua Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 fair play to you all. it will be great to get 'em!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 It was indeed Broithe - congrats - Orders are now closed At the moment, the initial batch of 333 packs will all have the same numbers (it;s the manufacturers minimum) Fair enough. That's no problem. Not like me to still be here for Last Orders....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Congrats IRM. Looking forward to running these behind a pair of baby GMs. Its what comes after the cement bubble that I'm also very interested in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks all for this massive vote of confidence! We're keen to get these wagons into the hands of those who have supported us thus far, as quickly as possible, before extending our efforts further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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