Warbonnet Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Hi folks, October is upon us once again, which means that the big Dublin show is getting closer and closer. We are delighted to support our friends from the Model Railway Society of Ireland once again by sponsoring the show which is now at a new venue at Mount Temple School, Malahide Road, Clontarf! To their credit, the MRSI has listened to feedback and the new venue promises to be a more pleasing experience with everything in one hall and with more space. We certainly cannot wait to see you there, as we will have the following with us: • An all new tooling Irish outline locomotive announcement • A full and exciting update on our ICR Project • Decorated samples and a full update on our Park Royal coaches • Samples of our grain and H Van wagons • Stock for sale including a couple of bargains too! We are bringing a bigger team with us this year too, with Paul, Patrick, Richard (of "New Junction" fame on Saturday and Sunday) and Fran in attendance to answer your queries and chat about our models. So, let the guessing games begin and we look forward to seeing you there! In the meantime, you can beat the crowds and pick up some of our wares below! Some may be sold out by the end of the month, so dont miss out and leave it too late! SHOP NOW: https://irishrailwaymodels.com/collections/in-stock 9 1 6 Quote
Patrick Davey Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Kicking off the speculation: If diesel: C class (but is that ‘all new’ ) If steam: An RPSI loco 1 Quote
Flying Snail Posted October 7 Posted October 7 54 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: We certainly cannot wait to see you there, as we will have the following with us: • An all new tooling Irish outline locomotive announcement Exciting! ... and also what I think it'll be ... 4 Quote
GSR 800 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Flying Snail said: Exciting! ... and also what I think it'll be ... What about... or maybe... Perhaps even.. 4 6 Quote
leslie10646 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Very clever. Almost cryptic! I'll swallow the top one (preferred) or the bottom one (got three). I guarantee it won't be the middle one and i don't want a second hand US Army vehicle! 1 Quote
Flying Snail Posted October 7 Posted October 7 (edited) Jeepers Leslie, you sound like you're feeling a little blue there .... Edited October 7 by Flying Snail 2 Quote
GSR 800 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 28 minutes ago, leslie10646 said: Very clever. Almost cryptic! I'll swallow the top one (preferred) or the bottom one (got three). I guarantee it won't be the middle one I certainly hope not, my one is en route! V seems like the logical choice. 2 1 Quote
Galteemore Posted October 7 Posted October 7 An S class would be the easiest of the options to make 21mm-friendly…. 2 1 Quote
George Posted October 7 Posted October 7 32 minutes ago, leslie10646 said: I'll swallow the top one (preferred) or the bottom one (got three). I guarantee it won't be the middle one As much as I would love an 800, I wouldn't mine a V or S class, which I think are most likely. 1 Quote
leslie10646 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, GSR 800 said: I certainly hope not, my one is en route! V seems like the logical choice. Look forward to seeing your "800" @GSR 800. There isn't an earthly that it will be that - so we all want to see yours!!! 1 Quote
LNERW1 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 I'm betting (and hoping) C Class. If steam there's a few options but maybe a WT as there's a lot of standardised components meaning elements of the tooling could be reused for future IRM and Accurascale releases. 2 Quote
NorthWallDocker Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Bachmann just announced new 009 carriages, so there's at least a niche market for a big maker to continue in. IRM hired a narrow-gauge model designer from another firm. My long-shot guess: a Tralee & Dingle Light Railway Hunslet 2-6-0, convertible from 009 to 00n3, in TDLR, Cavan & Leitrim, or West Clare Railway liveries. In business, you identify an unmet desire and create a new market. Quote
BosKonay Posted October 7 Posted October 7 The recent 009 releases were all designed by the chap who works with us but irish narrow wild be certainly a niche within a niche within a niche. Quote
ak425 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 2 hours ago, ttc0169 said: Hunslet or a C class locomotive. E , F , M , ???? 1 Quote
DiveController Posted October 7 Posted October 7 5 hours ago, GSR 800 said: or maybe... Either of the birds would be fine with me 2 Quote
John-r Posted October 7 Posted October 7 I suppose modelling Irish Railways is a niche within its self and modelling NIR is the proverbial niche within an niche, so a Hunslet or jeep would do it for me, really whatever the lads announce will do it for me, looking forward to the show. Quote
iarnrod Posted October 7 Posted October 7 My money is on IRM have bought the 071 or 201 Class moulds from MM and IRM'ed them to a new and improved spec level. 3 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 7 Posted October 7 6 hours ago, ttc0169 said: Hunslet or a C class locomotive. A "C" would certainly be logical. They've done so much (as have you, Leslie!) in terms of advancing the 1950s / 60s scene, with "A"s in 1955-72 liveries as well as the more modern ones, that a "C" would fit very obviously into that. As for steam, if 00 Works had not done a J15, I think I'd lay money on that, but a WT might seem an option too, for reasons mentioned elsewhere. Either way, whatever it is, I want one! 9 Quote
Leyny Posted October 8 Posted October 8 I'd love it to be the C Class. Have a feeling it'll steam though and my bet would be the J15, simply because of their quantity and longevity. Yes, I know OO Works produced one a few years back but only in small quantities and whilst beautiful, it was pricey. 1 Quote
Dempsey Posted October 8 Posted October 8 21 hours ago, iarnrod said: My money is on IRM have bought the 071 or 201 Class moulds from MM and IRM'ed them to a new and improved spec level. While I would like to see a IRM take on these two, I'm going to go with some form of steam. As there does not seem to be an accessible model from a competitive price point. I'm open to correction on that but that's just from my knowledge on what is available. 1 Quote
murphaph Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Well the Mark's Jinty is cheap and available now but of course they didn't really leave Belfast harbour so that may limit their attractiveness but I bought one to put in the display case. I think I'd like the C Class and I think that's sort of inevitable but maybe not yet. I'll be happy with whatever it is I think Edited October 9 by murphaph 1 Quote
Georgeconna Posted October 9 Posted October 9 On 7/10/2024 at 7:40 PM, NorthWallDocker said: Bachmann just announced new 009 carriages, so there's at least a niche market for a big maker to continue in. IRM hired a narrow-gauge model designer from another firm. My long-shot guess: a Tralee & Dingle Light Railway Hunslet 2-6-0, convertible from 009 to 00n3, in TDLR, Cavan & Leitrim, or West Clare Railway liveries. In business, you identify an unmet desire and create a new market. And a Sleive Mish Mountain and a Lispole Viaduct add on pack for people that buy all of them in one go. 2 Quote
Wexford70 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) I'd welcome a C Class but all some of the AEC railcars. Edited October 9 by Wexford70 1 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 9 Posted October 9 That has to come about some time. The AECs were as impor5tant to the 1950s and 1960s Irish railway scene as the ICRs are today, to the extent that any layout set anywhere west of the Shannon in particular, but also elsewhere, cannot be completely represented in layout form within that period without them. They were all over CIE, from Tramore to Bantry to (even) Belfast*; from Sligo to Newcastle West to Rosslare. the GNR, of course, had them too - all over the main line, but also the Banbridge and Newcastle branch, the Derry Road, and Portadown - Clones and Enniskillen. (* I once saw a CIE, rather than UTA, AEC set (in orange and black) passing through Lambeg. I do not know whether it was deputising for an Enterprise, or what it was doing there. I'm guessing it was about 1964/5). 3 Quote
Metrovik Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Just hoping for something southern, otherwise I'll have to run an excursion train! 2 Quote
leslie10646 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Come on guys, just two weeks until the big announcement - no "suggestions" for three days! I've been trying to out-think the lads in The Tower. ASSUMING that it's steam: a) It'll be from a loco class which the RPSI has one of, offering many numbers / liveries - then people will have seen ONE of the type and want a model. b) It won't be a J15 (but within 5/6 years?) as neither of ours are running or are likely to run again any time soon. c) So it's a Compound (yes please), a Q Class (yes please); a S Class - good choice, just coming back into service (but I've got two already!); or a Class WT Tank: popular loco with UK possibilities for the chassis / general design - ditto - I've got twp already! d) Which opens a can of worms as to what to stick behind it? There are NO RTR GNR coaches, except from Silver Fox and certainly no NCC coaches. Park Royals would have been VERY occasionally hauled by them. Now, I can't see IRM making GN coaches - so what? e) The answer MAY be that: there have been sets of RPSI coaches around in the past, both Cravens and Mark 2s; IRM more or less have the Mark 2s available at the moment, so another run of them to provide coaches for the preserved loco would be easy-ish. You could go on forever? My money is probably on the Tank - there were EIGHTEEN of them, NCC, UTA, NIR liveries to choose from, then some of them had extended bunkers (so about fifty variants possible) ....... For those of those of us with long memories, ModelU could be commissioned to make models of the each of the drivers and firemen who worked on the Stone Trains - (Saint Thomas) Tommy Crymble, Billy Steenson, Harry Ramsay, Alan Robinson, "Batman" Simpson, Big Dan McAtamany, Willie Graham, Gerry Phelan, Barney McCrory ........ Men whose exploits when they got out on passenger trains made sure that in 1969 I didn't throw away my stopwatch, but went in search of more steam trains to "time" - 25/26 countries! 2 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 12 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, leslie10646 said: Come on guys, just two weeks until the big announcement - no "suggestions" for three days! I've been trying to out-think the lads in The Tower. ASSUMING that it's steam: a) It'll be from a loco class which the RPSI has one of, offering many numbers / liveries - then people will have seen ONE of the type and want a model. b) It won't be a J15 (but within 5/6 years?) as neither of ours are running or are likely to run again any time soon. c) So it's a Compound (yes please), a Q Class (yes please); a S Class - good choice, just coming back into service (but I've got two already!); or a Class WT Tank: popular loco with UK possibilities for the chassis / general design - ditto - I've got twp already! d) Which opens a can of worms as to what to stick behind it? There are NO RTR GNR coaches, except from Silver Fox and certainly no NCC coaches. Park Royals would have been VERY occasionally hauled by them. Now, I can't see IRM making GN coaches - so what? e) The answer MAY be that: there have been sets of RPSI coaches around in the past, both Cravens and Mark 2s; IRM more or less have the Mark 2s available at the moment, so another run of them to provide coaches for the preserved loco would be easy-ish. You could go on forever? My money is probably on the Tank - there were EIGHTEEN of them, NCC, UTA, NIR liveries to choose from, then some of them had extended bunkers (so about fifty variants possible) ....... For those of those of us with long memories, ModelU could be commissioned to make models of the each of the drivers and firemen who worked on the Stone Trains - (Saint Thomas) Tommy Crymble, Billy Steenson, Harry Ramsay, Alan Robinson, "Batman" Simpson, Big Dan McAtamany, Willie Graham, Gerry Phelan, Barney McCrory ........ Men whose exploits when they got out on passenger trains made sure that in 1969 I didn't throw away my stopwatch, but went in search of more steam trains to "time" - 25/26 countries! Thought-provoking.... Yes, an RPSI prototype would be good, but you raise the very valid point about there being next to nothing suitable to run behind not just these, but any Irish steam loco of any gauge. This, surely, is a gap in the market which needs to be plugged. There are SSM and Worsley kits available for a good range of GNR, NCC, GSR & CIE prototypes, not to mention GSWR 6-wheelers, but brass kits aren't for everyone. The Hattons Genesis 6-wheelers are only suitable for GSR / CIE prototypes like the 00 Works J15s. However, a number of RTR coaches of (British) LMS origin are suitable for the NCC, whose designs from the 1930s onwards closely followed LMS practice on the Adjacent Island. Both main line and suburban types, dating back to several (English) Midland designs, are suitable. With Cravens and Mk 2s available, both in RPSI livery variants, something that can fit with NCC stock and RPSI stock - seems a "Jeep" might be a logical one there. But whatever it is, I want one! And by Irish standards, 18 is a large class. Five livery variants - NCC, UTA old roundel, UTA new crest, and (four locos only) the NIR symbol. Plus, all too briefly, no. 5 in the early 50s carried a temporary apple green livery, very much akin to Ailsa-era Isle of Man green. It dodn't wear well so only lasted months before UTA standard livery replaced it. And just for the craic, one in lined CIE green...................................................................................... 4 1 Quote
NorthWallDocker Posted October 13 Posted October 13 53 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: But whatever it is, I want one! Yes. This. Agree. 1 Quote
leslie10646 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 21 hours ago, jhb171achill said: But whatever it is, I want one! And by Irish standards, 18 is a large class. Five livery variants - NCC, UTA old roundel, UTA new crest, and (four locos only) the NIR symbol. Plus, all too briefly, no. 5 in the early 50s carried a temporary apple green livery, very much akin to Ailsa-era Isle of Man green. It dodn't wear well so only lasted months before UTA standard livery replaced it. And just for the craic, one in lined CIE green...................................................................................... Eighteen - if we're going for numbers, why not a T Tank (25 in the two sub classes). A 4-4-2T for those under sixty. But, I don't want one of those either (just three of them upstairs). Why, oh why, could all this not have happened twenty years ago ....... Now, with my "NICE" Hat on, it's great to think that there'll soon be a quality Irish steam locomotive model, ready to run (or maybe twenty minutes after you get through the packing and fit a DCC chip? You lucky lads (and lasses?). 2 Quote
Flying Snail Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 7/10/2024 at 4:26 PM, leslie10646 said: .... and i don't want a second hand US Army vehicle! 23 hours ago, leslie10646 said: ..... My money is probably on the Tank - there were EIGHTEEN of them, NCC, UTA, NIR liveries to choose from, then some of them had extended bunkers (so about fifty variants possible) ....... I knew you'd hop on board the jeep eventually 3 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Flying Snail said: I knew you'd hop on board the jeep eventually That one's an 0.4.0........... 3 Quote
leslie10646 Posted October 13 Posted October 13 29 minutes ago, Flying Snail said: I knew you'd hop on board the jeep eventually I'd normally say, "well, if it is, I won't be buying one", but as they are sure to do No.4, I MIGHT ...... You see, my two are No.10 (83mph at Muckamore with Tommy Crymble) and No.53 which gave me my best time from Ballymena to Belfast - Paddy Dobbin with fireman Albert Plews. Sooooooo, No.4 would be a "new" engine. Oh, and yes, I've had eighty with her - well over thirty years ago! Only thirteen sleeps until we find out! 2 Quote
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