LIMA Murphy Models

[Broithe]

19 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Please explain how you know what Antelope poo tastes like!

@jhb171achillis actually quite well known in some rather niche sporting circles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudu_dung-spitting

[WRENNEIRE]

Jasus..............

 

[Garfield]

1 hour ago, Broithe said:

@jhb171achillis actually quite well known in some rather niche sporting circles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudu_dung-spitting

From that link:

"In 2015, a sheep dung-spitting competition was introduced to Northern Ireland's Lady of The Lake Festival in County Fermanagh."

That both raises questions and answers some outstanding ones... 

[Billycan]

Lads, Can we stay with the programme.  What's the chances of a Irish Guinness lorry as part of the road vehicles portfolio?

[jhb171achill]

7 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Please explain how you know what Antelope poo tastes like!

A guy I met in a pub told me............

[WRENNEIRE]

Lima "Irish" models in different box's
Trying to determine early from late
Red box on the bottom is the earliest as it only has a 4 digit prefix, same as the HO Models, the 30 before the 4 numbers came later as did the W letter which stands for OO Gauge couplings
5 Plank wagon has plastic wheels, as do most of the wagons in any of the Lima "Irish" sets.
The 2 boxes above the red one have me flummoxed
Lima logo on the left seems to be a more common box, and on checking the Sundries box, which was a late production I find the logo is on the right similar to the second box
All 3 of these boxes have a cardboard inner
The top box which is a much smaller box has drawing of the wagon and  a blown plastic inner which makes me think it is possibly the latest box to be made.
3rd world lockdown problems!

 

 

Cardboard inner:

 

Plastic inner:

 

And then the pictures disappeared from the boxes, man alive!!!

 

[WRENNEIRE]

Said goodbye to another project today
Not going to happen now, grandkids want phones & tablets
What will happen with all my stuff?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sean Hogan]

Mary will take it to Bray and sell it.

[murphaph]

We'll all descend like vultures on Bray if we're still around. I suppose that auction should remind us that we should leave a note for our loved ones with the real value of all this stuff, just in case we are hit by a bus in the morning! If it ended up in an unsuitable offline auction it might fetch far far less than it's worth. I'm sure I'm not the only one that downplays the cost when a parcel comes through the door lol.

[minister_for_hardship]

What size of a skip for all of it?

[connollystn]

@Wrenneire - If the vultures on here get a sniff that you might have to get rid of your stuff they'll start circulating your house. Where exactly do you live? 

[DJ Dangerous]

Settle down, lads, he's probably not gonna keel over just yet.

[Georgeconna]

5 hours ago, murphaph said:

We'll all descend like vultures on Bray if we're still around. I suppose that auction should remind us that we should leave a note for our loved ones with the real value of all this stuff, just in case we are hit by a bus in the morning! If it ended up in an unsuitable offline auction it might fetch far far less than it's worth. I'm sure I'm not the only one that downplays the cost when a parcel comes through the door lol.

I have a spread sheet done up, When you tally it up the Figures become a tad Scary.... I normally Leave the Receipt in the box too if I do pop me clogs  the Daughter has a keen eye on the stuff I have and what prices have been Realised!

[DJ Dangerous]

4 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

I have a spread sheet done up, When you tally it up the Figures become a tad Scary.... I normally Leave the Receipt in the box too if I do pop me clogs  the Daughter has a keen eye on the stuff I have and what prices have been Realised!

How old are you now, George?

I'm a patient man...

[Georgeconna]

few year to go yet kid. probably about 30 or so if I am lucky.

Thing is I met a few lads paragliding while up the mountains. love to have a bash at it.  10 locos sold off would have me right to give it a bash!

 

[DJ Dangerous]

49 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

few year to go yet kid. probably about 30 or so if I am lucky.

Thing is I met a few lads paragliding while up the mountains. love to have a bash at it.  10 locos sold off would have me right to give it a bash!

 

 

I see a load of them landing out the back here every day. Never been but it looks fabulous!

[WRENNEIRE]

2 hours ago, Georgeconna said:

I have a spread sheet done up, When you tally it up the Figures become a tad Scary.... I normally Leave the Receipt in the box too if I do pop me clogs  the Daughter has a keen eye on the stuff I have and what prices have been Realised!

Have a couple done myself Seoirse
All kinds of values on it, what I paid, what it might be worth and best price on Bay etc
The son was not interested in trains till he saw it.
First kid I ever saw looking at a layout with his calculator on his lap

[WRENNEIRE]

Picked this set up last night, top one 
Have another one with a Blue traffo
This one has an Orange one but I was told thats the way it came
Anyone have this set? What colour is your traffo?

[mmie353]

I was given 2 sets as a child, this one and a German freight one, I had both colors for them, not sure what one of course was with what set. Sorry I know not much of a help

[WRENNEIRE]

I picked up some old Hornby locos over the weekend
On checking them I found this inside one
Anyone ever see or use one, I have never seen one before
Airfix Locomotive Receiving Module

 

 

Also picked up some Peco Flexi Track
Anyone remember the shop?
Postmark says 1975!





Peco label on the track a tad different from the current label, when you can get it!

Edited July 12, 2021 by WRENNEIRE

[Warbonnet]

Was once in W&H in 1994 visiting the London branch of the family. Bought two Bachmann coaches there out of the pocket money! 

No model shops in London now, save for Janes Trains in Tooting I believe. 

[Moxy]

1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said:

I picked up some old Hornby locos over the weekend
On checking them I found this inside one
Anyone ever see or use one, I have never seen one before
Airfix Locomotive Receiving Module

 

I haven't seen or used one, but it looks like a loco chip for the Airfix Multiple Train Control system, an early version of DCC from 40 years ago.

http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/MTC.htm

You could drive up to 4 trains (out of 16) at once.

I don't think they ever got very far with this MTC, I think they went bust only a couple of years after it was introduced, and I don't remember Mainline/Palitoy reintroducing it after they took Airfix over.

An interesting piece of model railway history, but unless you already have an Airfix MTC, not much use for anything.

 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Moxy
Clarity

[Georgeconna]

6 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

Was once in W&H in 1994 visiting the London branch of the family. Bought two Bachmann coaches there out of the pocket money! 

No model shops in London now, save for Janes Trains in Tooting I believe. 

Sad isn't it, I Always would divert to Holborn when the missus messed about in Oxford Street or Hannants in Hendon . SFA there now

One in Northfields, Quick hop off the Tube in or out to LHR. Never knew it was there when I lived nearby as the Spinning wheel (Irish Pub) used to be about 4 doors up and I never got beyond it!

You might get a headache looking inside it though!

http://www.northfieldsmodelshop.co.uk/

 

 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Georgeconna

[jhb171achill]

Senior used to get "O" gauge stuff from them - I recall the packages arriving.... rails, chairs, pins and other bits for his coarse scale track, sadly long gone now.

[Blaine]

On 12/7/2021 at 3:14 PM, Moxy said:

I haven't seen or used one, but it looks like a loco chip for the Airfix Multiple Train Control system, an early version of DCC from 40 years ago.

http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/MTC.htm

You could drive up to 4 trains (out of 16) at once.

I don't think they ever got very far with this MTC, I think they went bust only a couple of years after it was introduced, and I don't remember Mainline/Palitoy reintroducing it after they took Airfix over.

An interesting piece of model railway history, but unless you already have an Airfix MTC, not much use for anything.

 

Thats it, a response to Hornbys Zero 1, both a little ahead of their time ultimately. Technology has caught up with Digital control now

[WRENNEIRE]

Found in the end of a box of recently bought models
GSWR Form of Examination for Flagmen
Some very interesting questions and answers
14 pages of pure nostalgia.

 

 

 

 

 

[WRENNEIRE]

Interesting drawings of some Irish tankers
Never heard of Munster Simms but I believe they were from Bangor.

[Galteemore]

Thankfully MS still survives in part - the firm’s engineering division has become Whale Water Pumps. 

[Mayner]

 Munster Simms appears to have been a fairly large oil distributor during the 1930s with both Belfast and Dublin registered wagon fleets.

A number of photos of Irish registered tank wagons in the HMRSI  Charles Roberts Collection.

 https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs/munster-simms-belfast-motor-spirit-14t-tank-no-2-order-942.html.

https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs/munster-simms-dublin-14t-tank-wagon-no-4.html.

 

[Northroader]

[StevieB]

Nice.

Stephen

9 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Interesting drawings of some Irish tankers
Never heard of Munster Simms but I believe they were from Bangor.

What wheelbase were the wagons?

Stephen

[Northroader]

The Irish rail tankcars were supplied by builders in Great Britain before WW2, using same specifications apart from gauge, so I built my model from a British kit. This has a wheelbase of 10’6”. I got the details from an article in the HMRS Journal, volume 16, number 12, “Irish Petroleum Tank Wagons, which had pictures for the Munster Simms, McMullan Bros. of Belfast, BP, and Shell Mex.

[jhb171achill]

Munster Simms had petrol stations, which I remember as a small child. There was one somewhere in Dublin but I have no clue where at this stage, and there was another somewhere between Dublin and Dundalk….. probably more.

[Old Blarney]

8 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Munster Simms had petrol stations, which I remember as a small child. There was one somewhere in Dublin but I have no clue where at this stage, and there was another somewhere between Dublin and Dundalk….. probably more.

There were Munster Simms pumps on the pavement in Donnybrook, if my memory serves me correctly!, These pumps (two?)were on the pavement at the left-hand side of the road, just before the road narrows as you head south; today according to Google Maps, a business "Electra" occupies the site.

Munster Simms, exists as a renowned manufacturer of pumps and is based in Bangor, Northern Ireland. Founded in 1810, as Timber merchants and Shipbrokers, they became agents for "Consolidated Petroleum Company" selling rock-light lamp oil on behalf of the Nobel and Rothschild dynasties.  In 1929 they entered a deal with McMullan Bros (Maxol) to sell them over a million gallons of petroleum. In 1930 McMullan Brothers purchased a fleet of ten and fourteen ton fuel tank wagons for distributing their fuel by rail throughout Ireland. Divisional offices and depots in Belfast, Londonderry, Cork and Dublin with a further nineteen depots in, Newtonards, Newry, Portadown, Ballymena, Portrush, Cookstown, Enniskillen, Strabane, Carlow, Limerick, Dunmanway, Clonmel, Macroom, Ballyshannon, Letterkenny, Kilkenny, Navan, Naas and Dundalk.

All one need is now is for a manufacturer to produce a MEX Tank Wagon for our Irish railway scene -  Please note - MEX was an independent brand in Ireland, distributed by and through McMullan Bros. 

Edited September 8, 2021 by Old Blarney

[jhb171achill]

You’re right, Old Blarney - it was Donnybrook! Well remembered….!