DiveController Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 We need them by March https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/26278229928/in/photolist-2arjFys-2ddJqoK-G37NeN-ejt8FF-KkZPRP-R53JLj-24oZQkA Quote
Aidan K Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 I note on the web-site that the Fert wagons are now not in stock. ? fact or computer glitch. Quote
Noel Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 11:17 AM, Warbonnet said: We should have news on an arrival date before the end of the week! Cheers! Fran Good to hear. Thanks Fran. Ordered 3 sets. Let us know when they are in and can arrange payment for same. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 On 12/10/2019 at 10:33 PM, Georgeconna said: Pressed the Nuclear button there on a Bundle. Broke but you only live once.... You only die once George, you live every day..... 1 Quote
BosKonay Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 The fertiliser wagon packs left China in the last 48 hours by air and should be with us by the end of the week. We have suspended preorders until the stock is in hand and tested. All paid preorders will be dispatched late next week through into the week after. Thereafter we will open sales of the remaining packs on the website. Many thanks for your support! Quote
Railer Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 Will the bundle deal still be on after stock arrives? Quote
ttc0169 Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, BosKonay said: The fertiliser wagon packs left China in the last 48 hours by air and should be with us by the end of the week. We have suspended preorders until the stock is in hand and tested. All paid preorders will be dispatched late next week through into the week after. Thereafter we will open sales of the remaining packs on the website. Many thanks for your support! Good to know, thanks Stephen,,,looking forward to the Ferts.. 1 Quote
BosKonay Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 2:47 PM, Railer said: Will the bundle deal still be on after stock arrives? It will Quote
Noel Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, BosKonay said: The fertiliser wagon packs left China in the last 48 hours by air and should be with us by the end of the week. We have suspended preorders until the stock is in hand and tested. All paid preorders will be dispatched late next week through into the week after. Thereafter we will open sales of the remaining packs on the website. Many thanks for your support! Thanks for the info Quote
Mayner Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 12/12/2019 at 8:40 AM, DiveController said: May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb... and I do like sardines! And same for me ... Here goes BnT surviving on 121 into March 1975. Sorry, link only in case I have Jonathan Allen on my case and I'm sharing sardines with Edo https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/26278229928/in/photolist-2gYzGH9-T4U17i-WE5ktq-ekPNu2-2arjFys-G37NeN-q8F3UZ-266z9UA-Zuk7Es-RMgZao-RfKHJM-2ddJqoK-EvVccT-Ajm8cM-XETbe9-J6HMoq-FQgVpc-22vbbkU-22vbbfy-hxMBfD and just to contradict myself we have 112 with bogie ferts (admittedly much later 1990, maybe that was when she was loaned to CIE?) https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/41413527522/in/photolist-ekPNu2-2arjFys-G37NeN-q8F3UZ-266z9UA-2ddJqoK-EvVccT-Ajm8cM-Zuk7Es-XETbe9-J6HMoq-FQgVpc-22vbbkU-22vbbfy-hxMBfD-KkZPRP-2fhHcwV-oah299-2ebPpNo-S1KUh6-pEtTHF-24oZQkA-amHk4U-pWE8Vg-aVJuu6-bZD2mY-23nG1Xu-aEQssV-ejt8FF-R53JLj-JayCvB-PrHNht-s1p1N8-bYHvtU-d4zmM7-rs5W8o-TgDCP7-2aiuipA-2cd3GSf-jPfBhH-qMUYWT-d4zptY-rsEh6U-MCsw5g-J6HMYy-bZD8Y1-25qBWDb-G9pxnF-28brda1-cnndP5 NIR used the 111 Class to haul fertiliser trains through to Derry, I don't know if the NIR loco took over at Dundalk or Adelaide. 121s were occasionally used to haul fertiliser trains during the early 1990s. I once saw a single 121 departing Cork on the Dublin line with an empty fertiliser on a Saturday evening in 93, the fertiliser departed shortly before the up evening Dublin passenger, I am not sure if the passenger overtook the freight at Rathpeacon Yard or Mallow, the surprising thing was that we overtook another 121 on a north bound fertiliser train at Limerick Junction. At the time I met a Cork Gricer who said Motive Power control must have been desperate to put a 121 on a fertiliser train and that works were due to start on a new Down Platform at Limerick Junction the following week 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I, too, saw a single 121 on a fert once, but only once; it would have been an exceptionally rare one indeed. In terms of livery queries earlier, as seen in photos, yes, BnT locos ran with them. In fact, when the ferts were introduced, the majority of locomotives were still black'n'tan. 1 Quote
Colin_McLeod Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I have also seen blue NIR Hunslet hauled ferts. Quote
enniscorthyman Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Colm O Callaghans book has some great photos of Fert Trains. 1 Quote
DiveController Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Railer said: NIR 70 class hauled them too That I didn't;t know. They must have been empties surely?! Quote
40 milepost Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 2 . 70 class units on empties 3 for a full load even so it was quite a slog. A full load for the 70s was 7 ferts I think 1 Quote
40 milepost Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, 40 milepost said: 2 . 70 class units on empties 3 for a full load even so it was quite a slog. A full load for the 70s was 7 ferts I think MV or NIR C class one on each end . Must have been a real shortage of locos that day. 2 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 The one which appears to be "topped and tailed" is most likely something to do with a breakdown. I doubt very much if they ran like this (both powered - no suitable control gear) - it's probable that one loco is towing the other dead. Quote
40 milepost Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: The one which appears to be "topped and tailed" is most likely something to do with a breakdown. I doubt very much if they ran like this (both powered - no suitable control gear) - it's probable that one loco is towing the other Both locos were crewed and on full power on the bank out of Ballymena. The rear one was detached at Ballymoney as one could cope on the relatively level line on to Derry . A double headed version ran once too around this time quite a rare operation. 2 1 Quote
Eiretrains Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 There's an excellent feature called Memories of the Railway in Castlerock by Des Crockett in IRRS Journal 191 (Oct 2016), detailing the fertiliser trains (and freight in general) on the Derry line, with the different motive power combinations being illustrated, including the NIR 70 Class railcars. 1 Quote
Mayner Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 8:38 AM, Railer said: NIR 70 class hauled them too The UTA & NIR used their MPD & 70 Class railcars as locomotives and used them to haul the overnight North Wall-Derry goods between Lisburn and Waterside. https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/40139251611/ Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, 40 milepost said: Both locos were crewed and on full power on the bank out of Ballymena. The rear one was detached at Ballymoney as one could cope on the relatively level line on to Derry . A double headed version ran once too around this time quite a rare operation. That’s a completely new one to me - many thanks! I’ve a notion I saw a pic of two Hunslets double-headed on it at Castlerock one time - would that be correct? Quote
NIRCLASS80 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: That’s a completely new one to me - many thanks! I’ve a notion I saw a pic of two Hunslets double-headed on it at Castlerock one time - would that be correct? There is certainly a photo of that occasion in a book. 1 Quote
Dhu Varren Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 There is footage of Hunslets 101 and 102 double heading a fert working at Derry and Coleraine in 1988 on Markle Video 'Northern Ireland Railways Archive Volume 2'. 2 Quote
K801 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 1:38 PM, Railer said: NIR 70 class hauled them too would love to see a photo of that! Quote
Railer Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, K801 said: would love to see a photo of that! I posted it last March. Quote
Warbonnet Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 Ferts on the Way! Our highly anticipated fertiliser wagons are almost here and will be dispatched from mid February. We managed to get these beauties out of China before their new year celebrations and look forward to their arrival. We recently took these production samples to South Dublin Model Railway Club and posed them on their 'Kildare' layout, where they look right at home! All current pre-orders will be fulfilled first, and once they are clear the limited remaining stock will be open to customers to buy. They wont hang around, so keep an eye on this thread, our website and subscribe to our newsletter at the bottom of our home page to make sure you are prepared! https://irishrailwaymodels.com/ 8 2 Quote
JasonB Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Great news Fran, and thanks for the update. Mid February or mid May, these are well worth the wait. Loving the loads, they finish off what is a fantastic looking wagon. 1 1 Quote
Warbonnet Posted February 6, 2020 Author Posted February 6, 2020 Hi everyone, The ferts have arrived and we are currently packing up all the pre-orders for dispatch. This will take us a few days due to the levels of pre-orders so please be patient. Once these are clear we will open up the order book for the remaining stock. Cheers! Fran 4 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Thanks guys, E mail today saying on the way ! Looking forward to these and future A class fun! Robert 1 Quote
Noel Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: Thanks guys, E mail today saying on the way ! Looking forward to these and future A class fun! Robert Yes same here but as they are shipping from abroad could take more than the 24hrs by courier we became accustomed to with the ballasts and cement bubble deliveries from Dublin. 1 Quote
DiveController Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Is everything shipping from the UK now and why? Accurascale has become the larger market and everything has been centralized outside the EU (GB)? Quote
Railer Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Yeah delivery takes 7 working days for me now as apposed to next day delivery before everything because UK based due to Brexit. Quote
BosKonay Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Railer said: Yeah delivery takes 7 working days for me now as apposed to next day delivery before everything because UK based due to Brexit. Hi Railer, 7 seems unlikely given that everything is shipped either next day DPD if you are going for paid shipping or Royal Mail 48 hour tracked otherwise. The worse we've seen to date has been 4 working days, with full tracking and visibility so if you've seen 7 days or more recently, please PM me the details so I can investigate. In terms of 'why UK' accurascale now accounts for 90% of all our revenues and is literally paying for the irish models - which is great news for Irish models as we've a very exciting roadmap of same coming in 2020! The small tradeoff is that its also cheaper for us to centralise warehousing in the UK and cheaper for us to send parcels from Peterborough, than from Dublin! Quote
DiveController Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 On 7/26/2018 at 5:37 AM, Warbonnet said: Accurascale and IRM are two separate entities, so both must be viable and succeed. We cant make 5,000 plough vans and leave 3,000 to rot on the shelves using Accurascale money. It doesn't work that way sadly! 9 minutes ago, BosKonay said: In terms of 'why UK' accurascale now accounts for 90% of all our revenues and is literally paying for the irish models - which is great news for Irish models as we've a very exciting roadmap of same coming in 2020! The small tradeoff is that its also cheaper for us to centralise warehousing in the UK and cheaper for us to send parcels from Peterborough, than from Dublin! Two years ago I expressed the hope that since both companies are owned by your good selves some accommodation might be possible with the manufacturer, so whatever has changed I applaud that and many here will be happy with the increased variety and availability of Irish stock. Send them from wherever you like! 3 Quote
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