Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Hot off the press: From Murphy models Paddy will be showing pre-production samples of Class141/181 locos this week-end at the MRSI show. There will be 1 new fleet number in each of the four liveries (CIE, Supertrain, IR, IE) in both loco types. There will be a number of improvements, including the fitting of a speaker. No guidance on price due to the volatility of currency markets. Also at the show he will have examples of the Mark2d coach in IR livery. As before, there will be 1st., standard, composite, restaurant and egv. Photos to follow. There will be a new bogie to conform with the prototype and will facilitate 21mm conversions. of course this happens the second I’ve bought a 141 What do ye think of this rumour? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) Find out on Saturday Morning at the MRSI Show - There is an announcement coming I can say that Edited October 27, 2022 by Blaine 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 The Murphy website seems to be down.A great bit of news,but my Wallet 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, enniscorthyman said: The Murphy website seems to be down.A great bit of news,but my Wallet Guess it being updated Infamous for being sams trains favourite website 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said: What do ye think of this rumour? Brilliant news - sorry for you and everyone else thats been driven to fork out so much recently, but its great news for newcomers like me especially. Mind you, I think the earlier runs will still be able to command decent money too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said: What do ye think of this rumour? add it to the queue behind all the other promised stuff I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, chris said: add it to the queue behind all the other promised stuff I suppose... Had me wondering. What has become of the 201s, mark 3s, ect. Presumably we will find out when we ask ourselves saterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Flying Snail said: Brilliant news - sorry for you and everyone else thats been driven to fork out so much recently, but its great news for newcomers like me especially. Mind you, I think the earlier runs will still be able to command decent money too Don’t get me wrong, 2 years ago when I was only starting out I was begging for a re-run of a 141! Now since I have one I’m less so! Hopefully they make 142 as that’s a exact 141 I was going to make out of my 141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Had me wondering. What has become of the 201s, mark 3s, ect. Presumably we will find out when we ask ourselves saterday What do you mean by "what has become" of them? You make it sound like they have been cancelled or inundated with problems? 22 minutes ago, chris said: add it to the queue behind all the other promised stuff I suppose... Why "behind" ? It sounds like there will be samples and photos, which would imply that these are not "behind" anything else but ahead of them. Mk2D's were always the logical choice before Mk3's, assuming the tooling still exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, chris said: add it to the queue behind all the other promised stuff I suppose... How many models have you released Chris? Without giving away too much detail(not my place to do it), I can confirm this one has some substance to it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: What do you mean by "what has become" of them? You make it sound like they have been cancelled or inundated with problems? Why "behind" ? It sounds like there will be samples and photos, which would imply that these are not "behind" anything else but ahead of them. Mk2D's were always the logical choice before Mk3's, assuming the tooling still exists. I say it as in an announcement like this I’d expect some word about them? Again I have all day saterday to enquire about them…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Flying Snail said: Brilliant news - sorry for you and everyone else thats been driven to fork out so much recently, but its great news for newcomers like me especially. Mind you, I think the earlier runs will still be able to command decent money too There are still a few gentlemen in the hobby. Not every 141 that changes hands goes for silly money . 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: I say it as in an announcement like this I’d expect some word about them? Again I have all day saterday to enquire about them…. You make it sound like you have a problem, or that there is a problem. Not as bad as your man saying "promised" as if he's been personally let down by Paddy Murphy. Jaysus, when there's something to be announced, it'll be announced. How about not bitching about wanting another announcement, within hours of this one? 4 minutes ago, murphaph said: There are still a few gentlemen in the hobby. Not every 141 that changes hands goes for silly money . Pretty sure that YOU sold one to a forum member recently, in basically brand new condition, for less than a new one is likely to cost. Not everybody is a gouger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Pretty sure that YOU sold one to a forum member recently, in basically brand new condition, for less than a new one is likely to cost. Not everybody is a gouger. Ah she was just "resting in my account" so to speak. The original owner, a good friend of mine is the real gentleman. I just handled the advertising and postage 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, murphaph said: There are still a few gentlemen in the hobby. Not every 141 that changes hands goes for silly money . Indeed I’ve had 3 people offer 141 locos in the 120-140 range…amazingly I managed to get a 141 with DCC from Germany for an extraordinary price, for which I'm forever thankful . it actually works out at being my cheapest loco I have ever purchased…and some of mine are 2nd hand with no DCC! 2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: You make it sound like you have a problem, or that there is a problem. Not as bad as your man saying "promised" as if he's been personally let down by Paddy Murphy. Jaysus, when there's something to be announced, it'll be announced. How about not bitching about wanting another announcement, within hours of this one? Not at all, I’m genuinely curious is all! I was potentially taking a leap into another era of models if they were hence the interest. Paddy has had enough people whinging, I wish not be another one! At Inchicore works I did tell him I’d love a 141 to come out once again. good news for IRM too. If I had not had a 141 at this stage there is a good chance I may not have pre-ordered the Fertiliser wagons. Now that I have one (and by the looks of things a few more will finally have one. A few IRM wagons may start selling out a bit faster… 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Snail Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, murphaph said: There are still a few gentlemen in the hobby. Not every 141 that changes hands goes for silly money . Oh absolutely, and there's an awful lot of those gentlemen on this forum, including your good self - I was a bit clumsy with my choice of words there so apologies. I should have said 'anyone' instead of 'everyone': there are plenty of good guys (and gals) out there and I didn't mean to imply otherwise 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, murphaph said: Ah she was just "resting in my account" so to speak. The original owner, a good friend of mine is the real gentleman. I just handled the advertising and postage ‘Idling in my yard’ is the trade expression I believe 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 personally slightly dismayed by this as i hesitantly purchased a few of these last year due to not expecting another release of these for a considerable amount of time as the 201 rerun was to come first. that being said overall its great news for the scene to see another run of these finally pop up. oh well alll these new announcements are a nice reassurance that i dont need to be continually hoarding models in order to get what i need/want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, Sean said: personally slightly dismayed by this as i hesitantly purchased a few of these last year due to not expecting another release of these for a considerable amount of time as the 201 rerun was to come first. that being said overall its great news for the scene to see another run of these finally pop up. oh well alll these new announcements are a nice reassurance that i dont need to be continually hoarding models in order to get what i need/want You're alive!!! Where have you been the past few months? Ferts, Kegs, Container Liners and now 141's AND bargain Taras all abound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: You're alive!!! Where have you been the past few months? Ferts, Kegs, Container Liners and now 141's AND bargain Taras all abound! and still at least two more IRM announcements:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, BosKonay said: and still at least two more IRM announcements:) Sssshhhhhhhhhhhhh, you'll scare him away for another few months if you overwhelm him like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, BosKonay said: and still at least two more IRM announcements:) Hopefully something new! Pain in me hole with reissues of existing models "What do we want?" "New Stuff!" "When do we want it?".................... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: Pain in me hole with reissues of existing models Are you storing these reissues in a suitable environment? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Broithe said: Are you storing these reissues in a suitable environment? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: Hopefully something new! Pain in me hole with reissues of existing models "What do we want?" "New Stuff!" "When do we want it?".................... 2 completely new tooling announcements this weekend 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, Warbonnet said: 2 completely new tooling announcements this weekend Stop, you're killing us, I need a bank transfusion! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 If true this is great news. MM's original 141 & 181s are probably the main reason the hobby exists in Ireland. Certainly the catalysts that enabled a generation to switch from BR outline to the Irish scene with decent models. The great eBay rip off may be over (for now). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I thought the 121s and A's would result in some baby GM price moderation but if anything the opposite happened as new people presumably came into the hobby and then demand for the rarer pre-owned models just increased. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens again. Long term it's clearly the best thing for (almost) everyone if there are more people involved in the hobby of course. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, murphaph said: I thought the 121s and A's would result in some baby GM price moderation but if anything the opposite happened as new people presumably came into the hobby and then demand for the rarer pre-owned models just increased. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens again. Long term it's clearly the best thing for (almost) everyone if there are more people involved in the hobby of course. Which means either demand has gone up, or scalpers love to scalp, or a combination of both I’d like to think that it’s the demand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 It'll get to the point where it'll be cheaper to preserve a real NIR 111 than get the MM model version... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Which means either demand has gone up, or scalpers love to scalp, or a combination of both I’d like to think that it’s the demand! I'm sure it's mostly down to increased demand in a growing market. This bodes well for us all in time. Have we ever had a week with so many announcements? And the IRM lads aren't even finished yet! (and PM may have something else to say too, from what some members have hinted at). I just hope that too much stuff doesn't hit the shelves simultaneously or some of us will have to make difficult choices. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-r Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, murphaph said: I'm sure it's mostly down to increased demand in a growing market. This bodes well for us all in time. Have we ever had a week with so many announcements? And the IRM lads aren't even finished yet! (and PM may have something else to say too, from what some members have hinted at). I just hope that too much stuff doesn't hit the shelves simultaneously or some or of us will have to make difficult choices. Body parts (mine not worth much) , Family, house, nothing else springs to mind just yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Tis a sad scene in my office today, the pride of my bus and truck fleet has been boxed up and will be dropped off to the Post office tomorrow On the plus side, I will be a couple of hundred better off coming into the weekend to fund my IRM ferts and a few more bits and pieces.. It feels a bit like selling my knee caps to buy new earlobes, the things we do for love! Now the only question is, will Paddy take my first born as payment for 141s,as I'm running out of things to flog, soon it'll just be me, a desk and boxes of railway models! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, MOGUL said: Tis a sad scene in my office today, the pride of my bus and truck fleet has been boxed up and will be dropped off to the Post office tomorrow On the plus side, I will be a couple of hundred better off coming into the weekend to fund my IRM ferts and a few more bits and pieces.. It feels a bit like selling my knee caps to buy new earlobes, the things we do for love! Now the only question is, will Paddy take my first born as payment for 141s,as I'm running out of things to flog, soon it'll just be me, a desk and boxes of railway models! I had to do the same thing if it’s any consultation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, MOGUL said: Now the only question is, will Paddy take my first born as payment for 141s,as I'm running out of things to flog, soon it'll just be me, a desk and boxes of railway models! I'd say Paddy's gonna have to open his own nursery with everybody offering their kids up in exchange for a few locos. 1 minute ago, Westcorkrailway said: I had to do the same thing if it’s any consultation! Are you a consultant now? Sorry, couldn't resist. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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