DJ Dangerous Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 So, following on from these posts over the past few months, scattered throughout the forum, it's time to start a thread on the new 071's. According to @DonderBlitzen, they are definitely due in freight grey, and according to @Noel, as well as IR, both NIR blue AND freight grey are definites. Definitely in stock with IRM and Mark's Models by the end of 2024 according to @Noel, who got the info direct from Murphy Models. IRM opened pre-orders for the 141's / 181's on August 15th, and they're due pretty soon, so it's probably fair to say six or seven months from Expression Of Interest pre-orders to delivery. I know that the immediate reaction was that there's no need for 071's, but I feel that they will sell well. Links to the various posts, hopefully in chronological order - maybe @BosKonay could copy the relative posts into this thread, also leaving them in their original threads? https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/12383-new-murphy-models-141s/page/5/#comment-213276 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/12383-new-murphy-models-141s/page/5/#comment-213287 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/#comment-217041 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/#comment-217059 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/page/2/#comment-217245 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/15308-2024-irish-model-speculation-thread/#comment-221361 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14004-ebay-watch/page/75/#comment-224643 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14004-ebay-watch/page/75/#comment-224821 Given the prices that the 071's currently fetch second-hand on eBay, and I put my hand up and admit that I bought a few for far more than they were worth, myself, it will be a relief for anybody who missed out. Since they're probably pretty far along - they'd have to be if delivery is due this year - does anybody know the actual pricing or what the decoder access will be like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 Going back to the new run of 071's, does anybody know which NIR liveries will be reproduced? There were quite a variety, and it would be nice to see a 1990's livery, which was missing from the original run, a deep blue with red / faded red warning panel, and a version as they run today. I'm assuming that the livery application is not yet finalised but the tooling, ie marker lights, probably would be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MOGUL Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Spoke to Paddy today, current reckoning is Q4 2024 best case but more likely they will be ready in the run up to CNY 2025.. forgot to ask about liveries! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, MOGUL said: Spoke to Paddy today, current reckoning is Q4 2024 best case but more likely they will be ready in the run up to CNY 2025.. forgot to ask about liveries! CNY? What is that then? I probably should know.......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 hours ago, derek said: CNY? What is that then? I probably should know.......... Chinese new year 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Smoke fitted generators to be fitted too 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Its fair to say, based on what has been going on in the past number of years not to just assume that 071s are coming in 2024....it would be more likely that they will come much later. not being pessimistic but remember the 141s which are only due now were supposed to have been release as early as 2021(?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Its fair to say, based on what has been going on in the past number of years not to just assume that 071s are coming in 2024....it would be more likely that they will come much later. not being pessimistic but remember the 141s which are only due now were supposed to have been release as early as 2021(?) Maaaaaybe re-read the thread again. Both @Noel and @MOGUL confirm that they have spoken with Murphy Models and Paddy Murphy, respectively. 19 hours ago, Georgeconna said: Chinese new year Don't be lying to the youngsters, @Georgeconna. It stands for "Crikey, Not Yet"... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 47 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Maaaaaybe re-read the thread again. Both @Noel and @MOGUL confirm that they have spoken with Murphy Models and Paddy Murphy, respectively. I haven’t gotten info direct from murphy before but I don’t think any initial time given to the release date to a mode have been forfilled. even MM can’t prevent delays! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 23 hours ago, Georgeconna said: Chinese new year Thanks George. Should have engaged my brain before asking the question......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 On 15/2/2024 at 4:24 PM, Westcorkrailway said: I haven’t gotten info direct from murphy before but I don’t think any initial time given to the release date to a mode have been forfilled. even MM can’t prevent delays! I'm still struggling to get my head around your two posts, here, but I THINK that you're trying to say: "Whenever Paddy Murphy himself announces an estimated arrival for the new 071's, he will still be subject to external factors that may affect delivery." But, Paddy hasn't even announced them, yet, never mind given a lead time. We have livery information from two members who received it from Paddy Murphy and from Murphy Models. We have an estimated delivery of late 2024 / early 2025 from two members, again who received the info from Murphy Models and from Paddy Murphy. If Paddy is telling people that, it is fair to assume that he's likely to be more or less on the mark, so why say / imply that he's not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 Received an email from Rails this morning, Murphy Models 071's / 111's expected Q4 2024: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) What do we expect on the pricing front? More prices like the baby GMs? I was kind of caught on the hop with those and just decided to push ahead with my pre-order of 5 despite the high price but if we are looking at €250 for DCC ready I will be a lot more conservative in what I pre-order this time I reckon. Edited April 9 by murphaph 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I would would imagine €230 to €250 mark going on present pricing for these small limited runs. It shows you why IRM have to cut out the middle man to make it work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob229 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wexford70 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Will the grey 071s have the handles on the front of the cab like the previous run or will they match the prototype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempsey Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I may have missed it but is this just a re run of the last tooling or a new new tooling with possibly details that may not have been originally possibly to model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 8 hours ago, Dempsey said: I may have missed it but is this just a re run of the last tooling or a new new tooling with possibly details that may not have been originally possibly to model? @BosKonay posted in the 201 thread that both the 071 re-run and the 201 re-run should be identical to previous batches. Happy days for you, Mr. 071! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob229 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green Hope so looking at Murphy Model website these liveries are mentioned for the 201 release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strimmers Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 53 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green it'll be them liveries just the tooling wont have changed hence identical being mentioned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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